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Posted on 04/27/2005 11:11:26 AM PDT by franksolich
Woman convicted of rape
In a landmark case a 23-year-old woman has been convicted by a Bergen court for the rape of a 31-year-old man.
The woman was sentenced to nine months in prison and ordered to pay NOK 40,000 (USD 6,385) to the man.
The incident occurred on Jan. 4 last year in a Bergen apartment. The man testified that he fell asleep on a sofa and woke up to find the woman performing oral sex on him.
The woman eventually admitted sexual contact but claimed that it was voluntary and that the man was willing and smiled. The case has attracted attention and is the first time a Norwegian woman has been charged with raping a man.
You know, I rather like this idea--it appears to happen only in Norway, though--of having the guilty party not only pay a civil penalty (imprisonment), but also reimbursing the victim in some way; from all the "crime news" I've read from Norway, it seems to be the practice.
You can't rape a man.
I cannot imagine the pain and suffering that poor man endured.
The horror...the horror....
there have been cases of women drugging men and taking advantage of them. while its very rare, its still possible.
I understand the point, but this case seems to land on the loophole in your theory -- and that is, that a man can "perform" when he's asleep, and thus at a time where he hasn't consented and may even (although I have trouble with this point) object!!
Oh, yeah? What about my pal in high school and the female shot-putter? She plied him with Jack Daniels and then held him down and spanked his monkey....
The man was reported to have said when he woke up,
"If you don't stop that in 5 to 10 minutes, I'm calling the cops."
Five big, ugly lesbians with a broom handle could probably do a very effective job of raping a man.
The question really is: What is the definition of "rape" as opposed to "sexual assault"?
How is it possible to rape a man?
Viagra and Jack Daniels
Well, it sort of boggles the mind, but I think "sexual assault" would probably be a better term, than "rape."
However, given "gender equity," one is not surprised.....
"You can't rape a man."
I didn't think so either, but what would you call this? What if the sexes were swapped and the woman had woken to find the man performing oral sex on her? Would that also not be rape? At the vary least, she molested him.
Slip a Viagra in his drink?
Yes, but that's a different kind of rape, not on point here.
Lauralee's point is that for the type of 'rape' at issue here, a man's performance is coextensive with his willingness, so to speak -- therefore if he engages, he was willing.
And there is some good logic there, but the case at issue hits an exception to the logic -- the "sleeping" exception.
I need a Norwegian nanny......
I disagree. A mans body responding to stimulation doesn't equal consent.
I hate it when that happens.
Billy Jeff Klintoon said oral isn't sex therefore there could be no rape. She was railroaded.
Your thread is here.
Bullcrap. The body can respond to stimulation involuntarily.
Or viagra and rogaine, What you get is Don King.
What kind of wussie boy girlie man would report this event to the authorities in the first place?
Whatever happened to a firm but polite: "Madame, if you do not cease this unseemly behavior immediately I shall be forced to deal with you quite harshly!"?
It does with me. If I'm responding, I'm consenting.
Because you can't rape the willing.
Excellent point. A woman's body responding to stimulation during forced rape has never been accepted as evidence of "consent."
I knew a girl who claimed she raped a gay guy.
Considering that she broke his nose, and cracked his jaw and beat him pretty badly, I didn't want details.
And if your wondering, she was one fat ugly looking thing.
When this was first posted (when the woman was just charged, not yet found guilty), there was speculation he pressed charges because his wife or girlfriend had found out something had happened, and he wanted to cover his rear, alleging himself a victim.
This guy will never again be able to:
A) Play in a live poker game;
B) Join an organized sports league;
C) Begin any conversation with the phrase "Did you see the (blank) on her?"
"You can't rape a man. "
Norway thinks you are wrong. So do I.
Like his wife/girlfriend would believe him anyway.
The reason we're all beating our heads (no pun intended) over this one is because its missing the usual "he said no" and "she continued/restrained him" etc.
I doubt a male would be convicted of rape in this case either since its missing the "they said no" aspect. Of course this is all predicated on whether he was sober, or willing to give consent in the first place.
So, she abused his pet. What's this got to do with rape?
What ever happened to "Don't Ask - Don't Tell"?
The concept of reimbursing the victim is as old as the Vikings. When a man had committed a crime, such as a murder, back in Viking days, he was exiled, and had to give all of his possessions to the family of the slain.
If he's too drunk to say "no thanks," I'm guessing he's too drunk to rise to the occasion anyway.
With all due respect, if you wake up and your manhood is inside an assailant's mouth (complete with teeth), it is not an opportune time to risk enraging the assailant.
Make sure your speakers are on.
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Don't................................Stop.............................Don't......................Stop.......................Don't.............Stop...........Don't.........Stop.......Don't.....Stop.....Don't...Stop..Don't..Stop.Don't stop, Don't stop, Don't stop!!!
I would assume so. Then again you have to wonder: who is monitoring the showers, anyway?
I`m game,and I am getting very sleepy.
And, besides, you're getting a hummer. Might as well let the chick finish up before calling the cops, IMHO......
You have to ask your self why the man would even take her to court. Maybe she was fat, ugly and repulsive. Maybe she was up to something else and he was protecting himself legally by making the point in a court of law that he did NOT give her consent.
there have been several instances where the female collects the sperm from a drugged man, or a discarded condom, to use it sometime later, with a turkey baster to get pregnant.... and collect a healthy sum of child support from and eligible man for 18 years.
this lady orally RAPED the man.
drugging before sex equals no consent.
it would be dishonestly prepostorous to assume or assert as a general principle that only men can rape... or force sex on the unwilling.
but very feminist.
Absolutely. Many years ago, I was living with my girlfriend at the time, and awoke to one particular vivid dream of her. As she was lying next to me, I decided to see what would happen if she were awaken in the manner described.
She enjoyed everything that night, and yet, the next morning didn't seem to remember we had had sex. She said she had a 'happy dream', but didn't realize it until I spoke about it that it wasn't a dream, it was real. :-)
Consequently, I don't have a problem with my wife waking me in this manner, if she ever wants to!
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