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Woman convicted of rape (Norway)
Aftenposten ^ | April 27, 2005 | not specified

Posted on 04/27/2005 11:11:26 AM PDT by franksolich

Woman convicted of rape

In a landmark case a 23-year-old woman has been convicted by a Bergen court for the rape of a 31-year-old man.

The woman was sentenced to nine months in prison and ordered to pay NOK 40,000 (USD 6,385) to the man.

The incident occurred on Jan. 4 last year in a Bergen apartment. The man testified that he fell asleep on a sofa and woke up to find the woman performing oral sex on him.

The woman eventually admitted sexual contact but claimed that it was voluntary and that the man was willing and smiled. The case has attracted attention and is the first time a Norwegian woman has been charged with raping a man.


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This is a follow-up to a story posted last week, when the woman was first charged.

You know, I rather like this idea--it appears to happen only in Norway, though--of having the guilty party not only pay a civil penalty (imprisonment), but also reimbursing the victim in some way; from all the "crime news" I've read from Norway, it seems to be the practice.

1 posted on 04/27/2005 11:11:28 AM PDT by franksolich
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To: franksolich


You can't rape a man.


2 posted on 04/27/2005 11:14:51 AM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: 68 grunt; beckysueb; Born Conservative; cinives; Constantine XIII; dennisw; Eurotwit; feefee; ...
Ping for the Norway ping list.

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There must not be much happening in Norway today; that is, unless some of the real news from Norway is not translated into English.
3 posted on 04/27/2005 11:15:01 AM PDT by franksolich (never thought pissant as anything other than illuminating and enlightening)
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To: franksolich

I cannot imagine the pain and suffering that poor man endured.

The horror...the horror....


4 posted on 04/27/2005 11:15:54 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: LauraleeBraswell
You can't rape a man.

Why not?

5 posted on 04/27/2005 11:16:48 AM PDT by Living Free in NH
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To: LauraleeBraswell

there have been cases of women drugging men and taking advantage of them. while its very rare, its still possible.


6 posted on 04/27/2005 11:16:55 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on.....)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
You can't rape a man.

I understand the point, but this case seems to land on the loophole in your theory -- and that is, that a man can "perform" when he's asleep, and thus at a time where he hasn't consented and may even (although I have trouble with this point) object!!

7 posted on 04/27/2005 11:17:21 AM PDT by WL-law
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To: LauraleeBraswell; Cogadh na Siths Girl
You can't rape a man.

Oh, yeah? What about my pal in high school and the female shot-putter? She plied him with Jack Daniels and then held him down and spanked his monkey....

8 posted on 04/27/2005 11:17:58 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (Steel Bonnets Over the Border)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

The man was reported to have said when he woke up,


"If you don't stop that in 5 to 10 minutes, I'm calling the cops."


9 posted on 04/27/2005 11:17:58 AM PDT by NavVet (“Benedict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
You can't rape a man.

Five big, ugly lesbians with a broom handle could probably do a very effective job of raping a man.

The question really is: What is the definition of "rape" as opposed to "sexual assault"?

10 posted on 04/27/2005 11:18:57 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: franksolich

How is it possible to rape a man?


11 posted on 04/27/2005 11:19:24 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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To: Paul_Denton

Viagra and Jack Daniels


12 posted on 04/27/2005 11:21:13 AM PDT by marine86297 (I'll never forgive Clinton for Somalia, my blood is on his hands)
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To: Paul_Denton

Well, it sort of boggles the mind, but I think "sexual assault" would probably be a better term, than "rape."

However, given "gender equity," one is not surprised.....


13 posted on 04/27/2005 11:21:15 AM PDT by franksolich (never thought pissant as anything other than illuminating and enlightening)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

"You can't rape a man."

I didn't think so either, but what would you call this? What if the sexes were swapped and the woman had woken to find the man performing oral sex on her? Would that also not be rape? At the vary least, she molested him.


14 posted on 04/27/2005 11:21:28 AM PDT by monday
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To: Cogadh na Sith
She plied him with Jack Daniels and then held him down and spanked his monkey....


15 posted on 04/27/2005 11:21:34 AM PDT by Disambiguator (This tagline should only be taken under the advice of your doctor.)
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To: Paul_Denton

Slip a Viagra in his drink?


16 posted on 04/27/2005 11:22:33 AM PDT by Fatalist
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Five big, ugly lesbians with a broom handle could probably do a very effective job of raping a man.

Yes, but that's a different kind of rape, not on point here.

Lauralee's point is that for the type of 'rape' at issue here, a man's performance is coextensive with his willingness, so to speak -- therefore if he engages, he was willing.

And there is some good logic there, but the case at issue hits an exception to the logic -- the "sleeping" exception.

17 posted on 04/27/2005 11:22:46 AM PDT by WL-law
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To: franksolich

I need a Norwegian nanny......


18 posted on 04/27/2005 11:22:49 AM PDT by Pondman88
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To: franksolich
Some people are never happy.
19 posted on 04/27/2005 11:22:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism. DEA agents will not keep your children safe from drugs.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell



I disagree. A mans body responding to stimulation doesn't equal consent.


20 posted on 04/27/2005 11:23:07 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: franksolich

I hate it when that happens.


21 posted on 04/27/2005 11:23:41 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: LauraleeBraswell
You can't rape a man.

Billy Jeff Klintoon said oral isn't sex therefore there could be no rape. She was railroaded.

22 posted on 04/27/2005 11:23:47 AM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans (NRA))
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To: TheBigB

Your thread is here.


23 posted on 04/27/2005 11:24:42 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, who's bringing the chips?)
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To: WL-law
a man's performance is coextensive with his willingness, so to speak -- therefore if he engages, he was willing.

Bullcrap. The body can respond to stimulation involuntarily.

SD

24 posted on 04/27/2005 11:26:01 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: marine86297
Viagra and Jack Daniels

Or viagra and rogaine, What you get is Don King.

25 posted on 04/27/2005 11:27:01 AM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans (NRA))
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To: franksolich

What kind of wussie boy girlie man would report this event to the authorities in the first place?

Whatever happened to a firm but polite: "Madame, if you do not cease this unseemly behavior immediately I shall be forced to deal with you quite harshly!"?


26 posted on 04/27/2005 11:27:13 AM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: Disambiguator
From the sign, does that mean it is okay between 12 am and 12 pm?


27 posted on 04/27/2005 11:29:02 AM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: SouthernFreebird
A mans body responding to stimulation doesn't equal consent.

It does with me. If I'm responding, I'm consenting.

28 posted on 04/27/2005 11:29:02 AM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: Living Free in NH
You can't rape a man.

Why not?

Because you can't rape the willing.

29 posted on 04/27/2005 11:29:58 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: SouthernFreebird
I disagree. A mans body responding to stimulation doesn't equal consent.

Excellent point. A woman's body responding to stimulation during forced rape has never been accepted as evidence of "consent."

30 posted on 04/27/2005 11:29:59 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Paul_Denton
How is it possible to rape a man?

I knew a girl who claimed she raped a gay guy.

Considering that she broke his nose, and cracked his jaw and beat him pretty badly, I didn't want details.

And if your wondering, she was one fat ugly looking thing.

31 posted on 04/27/2005 11:30:19 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Maceman

When this was first posted (when the woman was just charged, not yet found guilty), there was speculation he pressed charges because his wife or girlfriend had found out something had happened, and he wanted to cover his rear, alleging himself a victim.


32 posted on 04/27/2005 11:30:27 AM PDT by franksolich (never thought pissant as anything other than illuminating and enlightening)
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To: franksolich

This guy will never again be able to:

A) Play in a live poker game;

B) Join an organized sports league;

C) Begin any conversation with the phrase "Did you see the (blank) on her?"


33 posted on 04/27/2005 11:30:48 AM PDT by Caged in Canuckistan (A message from Canada: GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

"You can't rape a man. "

Norway thinks you are wrong. So do I.


34 posted on 04/27/2005 11:31:47 AM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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To: franksolich
When this was first posted (when the woman was just charged, not yet found guilty), there was speculation he pressed charges because his wife or girlfriend had found out something had happened, and he wanted to cover his rear, alleging himself a victim.

Like his wife/girlfriend would believe him anyway.

35 posted on 04/27/2005 11:32:08 AM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: Maceman

The reason we're all beating our heads (no pun intended) over this one is because its missing the usual "he said no" and "she continued/restrained him" etc.

I doubt a male would be convicted of rape in this case either since its missing the "they said no" aspect. Of course this is all predicated on whether he was sober, or willing to give consent in the first place.


36 posted on 04/27/2005 11:32:24 AM PDT by ruiner
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To: Cogadh na Sith
spanked his monkey

So, she abused his pet. What's this got to do with rape?

37 posted on 04/27/2005 11:33:41 AM PDT by sparkomatic (This happens every time one of these floozies starts poontangin' around with those show folk fags!)
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To: Disambiguator
Great Picture! I am sending it around the world!

What ever happened to "Don't Ask - Don't Tell"?

38 posted on 04/27/2005 11:33:48 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: franksolich

The concept of reimbursing the victim is as old as the Vikings. When a man had committed a crime, such as a murder, back in Viking days, he was exiled, and had to give all of his possessions to the family of the slain.


39 posted on 04/27/2005 11:34:08 AM PDT by SoDak (Hoist That Rag!)
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To: ruiner
Of course this is all predicated on whether he was sober, or willing to give consent in the first place.

If he's too drunk to say "no thanks," I'm guessing he's too drunk to rise to the occasion anyway.

40 posted on 04/27/2005 11:34:27 AM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: ruiner
The reason we're all beating our heads (no pun intended) over this one is because its missing the usual "he said no" and "she continued/restrained him" etc.

With all due respect, if you wake up and your manhood is inside an assailant's mouth (complete with teeth), it is not an opportune time to risk enraging the assailant.

SD

41 posted on 04/27/2005 11:36:19 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: franksolich
Speaking of which:

Priceless

Make sure your speakers are on.

(NOTE: Dialogue may not be suitable for younger viewers)

42 posted on 04/27/2005 11:37:16 AM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
You can't rape a man.

Ever heard of morning wood? My ex-wife used to take great pleasure in waking me up in such a manner. She would be well into the act and my body would react to the stimulation long before I was awake.
43 posted on 04/27/2005 11:38:31 AM PDT by speed_addiction (I like to watch the children running and squealing. You see, they don't know I am using blanks!)
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To: franksolich

Don't................................Stop.............................Don't......................Stop.......................Don't.............Stop...........Don't.........Stop.......Don't.....Stop.....Don't...Stop..Don't..Stop.Don't stop, Don't stop, Don't stop!!!


44 posted on 04/27/2005 11:38:35 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: jws3sticks
From the sign, does that mean it is okay between 12 am and 12 pm?

I would assume so. Then again you have to wonder: who is monitoring the showers, anyway?

45 posted on 04/27/2005 11:40:32 AM PDT by Disambiguator (This tagline should only be taken under the advice of your doctor.)
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To: Living Free in NH

I`m game,and I am getting very sleepy.


46 posted on 04/27/2005 11:41:37 AM PDT by bikerman
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To: SoothingDave
With all due respect, if you wake up and your manhood is inside an assailant's mouth (complete with teeth), it is not an opportune time to risk enraging the assailant.

And, besides, you're getting a hummer. Might as well let the chick finish up before calling the cops, IMHO......

47 posted on 04/27/2005 11:42:07 AM PDT by Modernman ("Work is the curse of the drinking classes." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: WL-law

You have to ask your self why the man would even take her to court. Maybe she was fat, ugly and repulsive. Maybe she was up to something else and he was protecting himself legally by making the point in a court of law that he did NOT give her consent.

there have been several instances where the female collects the sperm from a drugged man, or a discarded condom, to use it sometime later, with a turkey baster to get pregnant.... and collect a healthy sum of child support from and eligible man for 18 years.

this lady orally RAPED the man.
drugging before sex equals no consent.

it would be dishonestly prepostorous to assume or assert as a general principle that only men can rape... or force sex on the unwilling.

but very feminist.


48 posted on 04/27/2005 11:43:13 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (pass me the unix please.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
The guy probably just thought he was having a 'moist' dream and awoke to find a 400 pound cow on him. That would scare the bejabbers outa me too !! ;^)

Nam Vet

49 posted on 04/27/2005 11:44:13 AM PDT by Nam Vet (MSM reporters think the MOIST dream they had the night before is a "reliable source".)
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To: SoothingDave

Absolutely. Many years ago, I was living with my girlfriend at the time, and awoke to one particular vivid dream of her. As she was lying next to me, I decided to see what would happen if she were awaken in the manner described.

She enjoyed everything that night, and yet, the next morning didn't seem to remember we had had sex. She said she had a 'happy dream', but didn't realize it until I spoke about it that it wasn't a dream, it was real. :-)

Consequently, I don't have a problem with my wife waking me in this manner, if she ever wants to!


50 posted on 04/27/2005 11:44:41 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder (Lt.Col. Myles Miyamasu -"These guys really make us work to kill them, but in the end, they're dead.")
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