Posted on 04/28/2005 6:41:03 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
I just got through hearing Senator Frist on the Laura Ingram show, and Freepers, I have to say, I was disgusted by the man. He said all the right things, he talked about principle, the Constitution, the rules and all that, but what I was left with was the simple fact that Senator Frist is not a leader, he is a Politician.
Senator Frist is not a stupid man. He knows that even if the Democrats allow the current Judicial nominees to have a vote, it will be a different story when it comes to a future Supreme Court justice. I dont want to have to deal with this again, when Senator Frist has the power, the backing and the facts behind him RIGHT NOW.
Frist was asked when he was going to change the rule, and he did not answer, but went on to talk about compromise and exhausting every possible option before pulling the trigger on the Nuclear option.
Well, on that, I have had enough of Senator Frist, and I am announcing to anyone who listens that I will not vote for him for dogcatcher. He is a smart man, a great doctor, a good Politician, but as a leader, Senator Frist SUCKS.
I hope that Freepers will join me in announcing that no matter what, we will not vote for Senator Frist for President, and then maybe, with that option removed from his consideration, he will then just do the right damn thing, and end this nonsense.
Dammit.
Agreed...I didnt feel any passion coming from that guy.
Bill Frist is a Medical Wonder, i still haven't figured out how he stands up straight without a spine.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
Frist is just like most politicians; interested in compromise and whose only concern is being reelected - not doing what is right or necessary.
This won't change until term limits are inacted.
There is no doubt, the GOP leadership in the US Senate is lacking. I heard the interview as well. Dr. Frist is a gentle and capable man, but he ain't no floor leader.
President? No way. Just no way in hell will that happen.
You have found a politician in the Senate? I am not surprised.
How the heck do you think they get there?
You can add Bill Frist to that list if he really intends to run for President.
Too late. I ate Bambi for supper last night.
Thumper too.
Two words: TERM LIMITS
Another with an ego problem that is solved with a vanity post.
Sorry dude, but on this you've been flying above 10,000 without oxygen, I fear..Frist is aware of the need for making the case to public opinion. 95% of the American people have no idea what this fight is about, or that it even is going on..but when/if a SC nomination floorfight starts..many more will become engaged..Frist knows the Dems can't compromise on the current 7..their base won't let them..did you hearGore and MoveOn yesterday, and NanAron?..No way they could allow 4-5 of these judges through..especially because one of them could then go up for the SC..and Frist and Mitch have said flat-out..any "compromise" MUST cover the right of any nominee with majority supoort to have an up-or-down vote.. You may not like Frist, OK..but I can't fault him on this one..
What else can be said, except Frist and guys like him are walking reasons to vote principle over party.
AGREED!!! I've held the opinion for quite a few weeks now that this man is NOT presidential material, nor is he leadership material of any sort. Frankly, I wish he'd step down and let someone with a backbone lead the Senate. I can't stand 'wishy-washy' and Frist is definitely the poster boy for "Republican Wuss".
Ya sure you betcha. Say, don't you post under a different name at DU?
Conservative and morally based people like Hatch or Lieberman stand arm in arm with drunken murderers like Ted Kennedy and intellectually challenged seditionists like Patrick Leahy.
Second; REAL leaders don't give a crap for public opinion. They just do what is right. Imagine the Gipper right now? He would not be talking about compromise, he would be talking about winning. We won the damn election, and it is time to start behaving that way. I don't dislike Frist, I am just hoping that if he realizes that he wont be President, that he will get off his horse and shoot it.
I still say ---let them filibuster. I'd love to see Kennedy and Byrd rambling on and on and on. C-SPAN would be Comedy-SPAN.
Senator Frist has been talking about this for many months, which leads me to believe he is not going to pull the trigger but hopes that it just"goes away". History has proven that leaders are men of actions and deeds, not words.
I am pessimistic and expect only a few appellate appointments of federal judges in the next 4 years. RINOs will cave and the dems will delay President Bush'a nominations until HRC ascends to her rightful place on the throne, at which time RINOs will be tripping over them selves to rubber-stamp HRC's nominations of communist/socialist jurists.
"Politics is just like show business. You have a hell of an opening, you coast for awhile, you have a hell of a closing."-Reagan

Mommy, what's a pukin dog? He says he's going to choke me.
Yes. And your point ?
What are you talking about ? Frist fits in perfectly with the GOP senate leadership. If he was any other way it would be out of step with the "Walk all over us" GOP majority.
I know what you mean. I got three fundraising letters from various RNC groups the other day and I sent them all back with angry scrawls outside the envelope, saying that I will not send them anymore money till they confirm the judges and Bolton, support DeLay, fix SS and secure the borders. The RNC doesn't need money to do its job. The elected officials are already being paid by us. They're the ones who need to do their jobs. Not one more dollar for Republican causes until they start acting like conservative Republicans!
That's why senator dont get elected to be President. THey are NOT leader, just smarmy snake oil salesmen.
So dont vote for him if you dont want to but remember he's a politician but at least he's a Rep pol (would you rather have Illary?).
That's one possibility, that Frist talks this way because he won't do anything. Time will tell.
There is also the possibility that the "compromising" rhetoric is a way of show the public that the GOP is trying to reach out even if he knows the nuclear option is inevitable. Then if they go through with it (and I know it's a big if), the GOP will be further ahead in the PR war. Secondly, the soft talk keeps the based heated up and pressure on the wavering senators. Third, it creates the illusion of winning for the left which can cause their base to soften. This is basic stuff in the art of war, act compromising and lure your opponent in harsher and harsher rhetoric. At the opportune time, make the move.
Of course, if they actually don't go through with it, this is all bunk.
Look..it's unfair to comapre Frist's position to the Gipper..hell, even to Jimmy Carter..the SML herds cats..it ain't easy...it's not likehe party discipline in the House...the vote is going to be 51-52 GOP senators..and remember how Jeffords sandbagged Lott..NO, I'm in favor if Frist's caution this time..he's letting the Dems hang themselves..they've painted themselves into a corner..they really thougtht the GOP wouldn't go through with it..but after hearing Gore, et al over the last few days..some of the GOP fence-stitters may well realize that their so called "pricipal" approach is in fact a vote supporting the hard left Dems..nd they may well support the GOP leadership... Frist has 'em on the run..
My, my, aren't we the tough little man behind the screen.
Well, it beats choking chickens and spanking monkeys, I guess.
I've been an optimist on this issue, but after hearing Frist this morning, that is over. The man has no guts. I want my leaders to be fighters. If he were to get the nomination for President, I would simply stay home on election day.
I want a President who can answer a yes-or-no question.
Gosh, Ken. Everybody knows that Frist says and does things for no reason other than that he's weak. Didn't you get the memo?

Heh heh heh. He said "beats."
Newt Gingrich was a fighter, which is why Clinton won a second term.
When I twice voted for George Bush I was also pulling the lever for his choice of leadership. Frist is a total disappointment and evidently not smart enough to realize he will never be president. If he can't lead the Senate, who in the heck does he believe would vote to promote him to higher office? Appeasing and pleasing the Dims will get him somewhere?
I had reasonable hopes for Frist at first but he has proven to be just one more spineless Republican politician. Apparently none of them subscribe to the adage 'Stand for principle and it will stand for you'.

Ok, but she really likes dining out a lot.
How, oh how can we get that back on the burner. That bunch of merry men/women have the lifetime deal and they won't rock the boat.
Just what will it take? House = 10 years Senate = 12 years. And that's it. No coming back to the fed payroll for anything buy your SS check. TERM LIMITS NOW.
In my best english, "IIammm witch ya!" Enough of this moron.
LBJ was one SOB, and he did a lot of damage to this country, but sometimes I wish we could get a Majority Leader that could play hardball like LBJ could.
Even those who hate the man, admit that he is the most effective person in the Congress. That is because with Tom Delay, you do it his way, or he kicks your ass. He gets things done, he gets bills passed, or he sends your ass back to Oklahoma. (are you listening J.C. Watts?)
This is what we need in the Senate. When I look at the Republican Senators, it appears that wimpy Norm Coleman is the toughest guy up there. And don't tell me about Santorum. His support of Specter is going to send him home too.
"I am so angry, I could choke Bambi with my bare hands."
Better start with a chicken. Bambi's neck is pretty big and it might be hard to choke her without some practice.
Seriously, who are you planning to vote for, if not for Frist?
That's the problem; he DOESN'T! He's got four or five RINO Senators who are looking for attention, and they'd like to get that from the MSM by screwing over the 'right wing conservatives' in the Senate. These are the Senators who need to be contacted and told, politely, of course, that they are NOT doing what the people of America wanted done when both THEY and the President were re-elected.
They also need to be informed that the Repubs. won't be 'going nuclear', they'll be going 'CONSTITUTIONAL'!
Would you rather have PD post his opinion at a vanity blog, then link over so that it qualifies as a legitimate post? The general rule against vanities is that they typically can be included as a reply to an existing thread. However, in cases where (1) it's an anchor post, (2) the poster has some street cred, and (3) the vanity is fairly well written, the rule doesn't necssarily apply. Witness the number of 'true' replies (ie discussion/commentary) vs. quips such as yours.
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