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Israel And Freedom For Jonathan Pollard
Jerusalem Post / Israel News Agency ^ | April 28, 2005 | Caroline Glick / Joel Leyden

Posted on 04/28/2005 1:50:07 PM PDT by IsraelBeach

Israel And Freedom For Jonathan Pollard

By Caroline Glick The Jerusalem Post - With INA Publisher's Note Below

Jerusalem ---- April 28......Jonathan Pollard is one of the most polarizing figures of our times. Pollard, a former intelligence analyst in US naval intelligence, has now served 20 years of a life imprisonment sentence following his conviction for transferring classified US intelligence materials relating to Arab ballistic missile and nonconventional weapons programs to Israel from May 1984 until his arrest in November 1985.

For his contribution to Israel's security and for his long suffering in prison, Israel considers Pollard a national hero. He is commonly considered the source of Israel's preparedness for the Iraqi missile attacks during the Gulf War. Israelis across the right-left and religious-secular divide are basically unified in their hope to greet Pollard in Israel as a free man. For many American Jews, Pollard is reviled as a traitor.

Since his arrest, a cloud of suspicion has hung over all Jews employed in the Pentagon, the State Department, the US military and intelligence services. Time after time, baseless allegations surface of American Jews spying for Israel. In spite of Israel's strategic alliance with the US, American intelligence agencies define Israel as a "country of concern" for intelligence breaches and American Jews are under constant, often malicious scrutiny. All a person has to do to expose the deep frustration of Washington Jews with the constant discrimination by intelligence agencies is mention the name "Pollard." Immediately he will be showered with bitter statements like, "If it weren't for that traitor, we wouldn't be in this position," and, "I hope he rots in jail."

For the past 12 years Pollard has been incarcerated in Butner Federal Prison in North Carolina. He was transferred to Butner from Marion Federal Prison in Illinois where he was held in a subterranean cell in solitary confinement for seven years. Pollard's treatment, like his life sentence, is unprecedented in the history of US espionage investigations.

Never has a spy in the employ of a friendly country received such a sentence. On average, spies working for countries considered US allies receive between 4-7 years in jail. Aldrich Ames, the most notorious spy in recent history, who as head of the CIA counter-intelligence department compromised all US intelligence emanating from the Soviet Union for over 15 years and caused the death of more than 10 US agents operating in the Soviet Union – while sentenced to life in prison – was never placed in solitary confinement for stretches comparable to Pollard.

I went to see Jonathan Pollard last week. During a two-and-a-half-hour meeting, we spoke at length about his espionage, the conditions of his imprisonment, his feelings toward the US, Israel, the Jewish people and his hopes for the future. Pollard is now 50 years old. He grew up in South Bend, Indiana. He studied political science, economics and classics at Stanford University and was studying towards a doctorate in military history at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts when he was recruited in 1979 by Naval Intelligence. Pollard first visited Israel in 1971 for a summer program at the Weitzman Institute.

He refers to his Jewish background as "modern-Orthodox, American style. The centrality of Israel for the Jewish people was emphasized." "I had thought constantly about aliya," he says, "But it's hard to pick up and leave the 'Golden Medina.' My parents are proud Americans. My father is a decorated Army officer. He carries a copy of the US Constitution in his pocket. But when I joined Naval Intelligence my father warned me that it's not a good place for a Jew. There is a lot of anti-Semitism there. But even when I saw it, I thought it would be better for me to stay."

Today at Butner, Pollard is employed as a window washer. His life is one of constant terror. "I will give you an impressionistic description of my life. It involves constant noise, constant violence; profanity – every conceivable type of profanity. There is no place to be quiet or to find quiet – to read. You really have to be disciplined not to be provoked. You need to be disciplined to see when a situation is getting out of hand and to get away as quickly as possible. I have to be ready if my door opens at 2 in the morning. "I live in a small room, not in a cell, with a roommate. My room is so small that when I sit on my bed and stretch out my arms I touch both of the walls. And it is impossible to lock the door. When I am not washing windows I spend my day reading and listening to the radio – to NPR and the BBC." The prison has television sets set up in common rooms for inmates. His fellow inmates include murderers, rapists, armed robbers, pedophiles and other violent criminals.

On September 11, Pollard was in the TV room, watching CNN. What did you feel when you saw the World Trade Center and the Pentagon attacked? "I felt sick to my stomach. The worst thing for me was that a lot of the Muslim inmates here greeted the attacks by saying Alla Akhbar and cheering." But why would it bother you to see the US under attack? After all, you betrayed this country. To this, Jonathan gave me a look of profound sadness and said, "I fell in love with two women – Israel and the US. It doesn't work in private life, and it doesn't work in politics. My reaction to September 11 was as an American. As an American, I believe that this country is guarding the gates of Western civilization from the barbarians."

In 1983, shortly after Israel and the US signed a memorandum on intelligence sharing, then deputy director of the CIA Admiral Bobby Ray Inman unilaterally breached the agreement by stopping all intelligence transfers to Israel on Arab and Muslim states not directly bordering Israel. This included Iraq, Iran, Libya, Tunis and Pakistan. Inman was hired after leaving the agency by a company called International Signal and Control. The company's owner, James Guerin, was imprisoned later for transferring military technology to Iraq and South Africa.

Pollard, who was privy to the now embargoed intelligence, believed that Israel faced the specter of chemical and biological warfare attacks from these countries. Pollard claims that he considered all legal venues for ending the embargo but felt that informing the media, testifying before Congress or involving the US Jewish leadership of the situation would all be ineffective. He claims also that "there was an incident during Operation Peace for the Galilee that provided me with my introduction to the US-Israel 'special relationship.' I saw the incredible cynicism with which the US views Israel. It flew in the face of everything that I thought was the point of the relationship. The way I viewed the world was destroyed. I had never before thought that my loyalties towards the US and Israel were in contradiction. But then I understood." What did you understand? "I understood that we are alone."

Pollard argues that his decision to spy for Israel, and thus betray the US, stemmed from his conviction that he "was preventing a second Holocaust." One can question whether it was necessary for him to prevent it personally, or whether he could simply have quit his position, informed the responsible Israel officials of the mounting dangers and let Israel – with its intelligence agencies and military -- contend with the issue as a sovereign state. But the fact is that Pollard chose himself for the task and Israel, too, in employing Pollard as its agent, chose him for the task.

Over the 18-month period that Pollard worked for Israel, he provided suitcases of documents to his handlers on a regular basis. Rafi Eitan, Israel's master spy who served as Pollard's chief handler from his position as head of the Office for Information Cooperation at the Israeli Embassy, told him that his information was discussed at cabinet meetings and Pollard understood that his main contractor was then Maj.-Gen. Ehud Barak, who then served as Commander of Military Intelligence. Yet, when Pollard was arrested, Israel did whatever it could to deny its connection to him. From the moment then prime minister Shimon Peres ordered embassy security officers to physically eject Pollard and his wife-at-the-time Anne from the embassy, Israel has done everything in its power to distance itself from Pollard.

It wasn't until 1995 that he was granted Israeli citizenship and it wasn't until 1998 that Israel officially recognized that Pollard was its agent. Binyamin Netanyahu was the only prime minister to have made a serious effort to get Pollard released. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has abjectly refused to take any action on Pollard's behalf.

For Pollard, who expected to be protected by Israel if caught, it is the treatment he has received from the Israeli government that surprises and disturbs him more than the harsh and disproportionate punishment that he has received from US authorities. "I had two particularly memorable terrible days since I was arrested. The first was when the FBI showed me transcripts of statements that Israeli officials made shortly after my arrest. It was clear that the Mossad had three goals. They wanted to put all the blame on the Office for Information Links and Rafi Eitan, they wanted to protect AIPAC at all costs and they wanted to bury me. It was the Mossad that was the source of all the disinformation about me and my character. The lies that I used cocaine and was a mercenary, selling secrets to countries other than Israel, it all came from them.

"Later, in 1995, a Mossad agent came here to see me and suggested that I kill myself. I said I would die for Israel not for some group of toadies. "The Israelis claimed that mine was a rogue operation. But this was a total lie. Not only did the senior political and military leadership know what was happening, Ariel Sharon tried to use me for his own ends. Rafi Eitan was Arik's man. And he asked me to collect political intelligence for Sharon – what people in Washington were saying about him and the like. I refused. "But what hurt me the most was when I saw the unclassified version of the Eban Report. [The Eban Report was a report of the Knesset's sub-committee on intelligence services investigation into the Pollard affair that was published in 1987.] It made me almost physically ill.

The report includes a summary of a midnight conversation between [the prime minister] Shimon Peres and [the US Secretary of State George] Schultz about a week after I was arrested. Schultz asked Peres to return the documents I took and Peres agreed but made Schultz promise that the documents wouldn't be used against me and Schultz agreed. "No one ever told me about this agreement. I could have used it in my defense.

It is the country's responsibility. It had standing before the court. Israel is the only country to participate in the prosecution of its own agent. Several years later [in 1990] Sharon attacked Yitzhak Shamir for going along with my abandonment. But that is what Sharon is doing now." Although sources close to Sharon claim that Pollard may be released on the sidelines of the destruction of the Jewish communities in Gaza and northern Samaria and the pullout of IDF forces from the areas, White House sources knew of no request on Sharon's part to release Pollard from prison. Ahead of Sharon's visit to the White House last spring, 112 Knesset members, including Sharon himself, signed a letter to President George W. Bush asking him to release Pollard from prison. Sharon refused to deliver the letter to Bush.

This month, ahead of Sharon's meeting with Bush at his ranch in Texas, all current and former Israel chief rabbis signed a letter to Bush requesting that he free Pollard. Again, Sharon refused to deliver the letter to Bush during his meeting. After meeting with Pollard, I contacted James Woolsey, the former director of the CIA. Woolsey told me that upon taking up his position in 1993 he reviewed Pollard's entire file carefully. "This man would not be my first candidate for clemency, but 20 years is a long time.

As a general proposition, one dimension of this is that a substantial penalty has been paid, so that the element of deterrence is dealt with. I do think there is a consideration here. Israel and the US, Australia, Japan, Poland and Britain are all in this war on terror together. We need to pay attention to the concerns of the citizens in fellow democracies. I would feel this way if it were Japanese espionage. We have to have a degree of sympathy for the sentiments of citizens in a fellow democracy." At the same time, Woolsey was quick to explain, "This is not a recommendation for clemency." Woolsey also stated that Pollard was not suspected of having transferred secrets to governments other than Israel. In his view "the heart of the matter" was the US fear that Israel's own intelligence apparatus would be penetrated by hostile governments and that as a result the materials Pollard transferred would be picked up. This, he explained, "would present a danger to the US ability to collect intelligence.

The fear was that the Israeli government itself might have been penetrated, not that Pollard gave the information to anyone else." When Pollard speaks of his future, he says that he has been training himself to go into a non-security related field if released from prison and most of his reading materials are scientific. "I have an interest in alternative energy sources to replace oil and on water desalination." Is there any reason that the US should worry about security damage you may cause if released from prison? "There is no substantive American worry regarding my release. My life has been destroyed so deterrence has been achieved. Nothing I know and certainly nothing I would ever do would be antithetical to US interests. The bottom line is, I want to come home so I can be with my wife, my people and my land."

In the days that have passed since the interview it occurred to me that the reprehensible behavior of the Israeli government in the Pollard affair tops that of all concerned parties – all of whom have behaved reprehensibly. Aside from the anti-Semites who take pleasure in spewing Jewish conspiracy theories, Israel was the only side that gained anything from Pollard's espionage. The US gained nothing and Pollard lost everything. In shirking its responsibility for Pollard, Israel paved the way for the entire story being blown out of all proportion by opportunistic enemies of Israel and American Jewry for two decades now.

If Israel had resolutely stood by Pollard, then the aspersions cast on Washington's Jews would be far more circumspect than they are today and the US would have seen that Israel is an ally to be reckoned with, not a doormat to be stepped on at will. Pessah is the holiday of freedom. But for a nation to be free it must take responsibility for its actions, no matter how grave those consequences may be. In shirking its responsibility a nation is doing more than casting out the unwanted weight. It is casting off its own ties to freedom. Pollard said, "The abandonment of a nation begins with the abandonment of an individual."

If we wish to maintain our integrity as a free people, we can do so only by taking on the task of bringing Pollard home. He may be a hero and he may be a fool. However he is viewed, he is one of us and he has been discriminated against and persecuted because he helped Israel. And other Jews are being persecuted because we refused to defend him. It is time for us to take responsibility for Pollard because his imprisonment paves the road to our servitude.

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INA Publisher's Note: The Israel News Agency believes that Jonathan Pollard was wrong for disseminating US secret information to Israel as a employee of an American intelligence organization and that he has more than paid his price. But Pollard was nothing more and nothing less than a symptom of paranoia, anti-Semitism and a severe lack of communications and trust between the US and Israel governments. Jonathan Pollard represents many things to many people - but one element remains clear - Pollard represented all that was wrong with Israel American relations over two decades ago.

Pollard should not be persecuted further for the past mistakes made by Washington and Jerusalem. Israel has and remains America's closet ally. Israeli blood drips almost daily to preserve American oil interests in the Middle-East and remains Democracy's front line against extremist religious Islamic totalitarianism . Pollard could have been any Jew who was committed to both Israel and the United States. He loved both nations. And served both nations - not as an adversary, but as an innocent pawn. He was used by both governments and now appears to be totally thrown away.

In 1983, President Ronald Regan signed an agreement with Israel, America's ally, promising to give Israel all information dealing with its national security. In 1985 Jonathan Pollard, a civilian naval intelligence officer became aware of information concerning Iraqi and Syrian nuclear and biological weapons, information which would affect Israel's security. When Pollard asked why this information was not being sent to Israel, under the agreement, he was shrugged off and ignored.

In his role as a US Naval Intelligence analyst he passed valuable security information to Israel - not for money or ego but rather out of a desperate sense for Israel's very physical survival. We ask why did Pollard have to pass this information to Jerusalem - why wasn't the White House, the CIA and the State Department doing so? Pollard should not be blamed for the actions he took, rather the US and Israel administrations are directly at fault.

This editor has been warned by the US Jewish establishment not to openly support Jonathan Pollard's struggle to become a free man after serving over 20 years in prison. I say to the Jewish establishment: "be ashamed of yourselves. Pollard is a Jew, he is an Israeli, you don't leave a soldier in the field - even more so when it was "friendly fire."

On September 13, 2001, this editor, with full NYPD press credentials was covering 9/11 was he was detained at Ground Zero and interrogated by the FBI. They wanted to know what I knew about the attack before it took place. After 6 grueling hours of questioning, someone realized that I was not another Jonathan Pollard. I was not Mossad and I was released after the FBI took my press credentials and film. Should I now blame Jonathan Pollard for the behavior of my government in Washington? No way.

The FBI did their job, and though it was uncomfortable and traumatic for me as a loyal American citizen, as one who served in a police unit in New York, worked in the World Trade Center for 8 years, and volunteered to defend the US in Iraq in the US military, I salute the FBI's actions in defending the American people.

But for those who say that Pollard should rot in jail, I simply state: Pollard is not the problem - you are! You are a disgrace to every Jew, to every citizen who embraces democracy and takes an active role in the war against global Islamic terrorism. For being impotent, for not defending Israel's basic right to be secure and for not placing blame where it belongs - the US and Israeli administrations at the time of Pollard's arrest and the present inaction of Israel Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in ignoring Pollard and licking George Bush's toes. I have great respect for George Bush, but not in how he walks over an Israeli Prime Minister.

The reprehensible behavior of Ariel Sharon and the present Israeli government in the Pollard affair is one of the greatest disgraces Israel has ever suffered. Why is it that Pollard's handlers were able to quickly leave the US while leaving Pollard to twist in the wind? If Pollard was responsible for a misdemeanor - then United States and Israel are guilty of an ongoing felony.

Lastly, I ask, if the United States of America and Israel are such intimate friends, then why do we allow this issue to linger? It only serves the public relations, spin and incitement of those countries and Islamic terrorists who attempt to divide us - barbarians which have attacked and murdered countless innocents on buses and restaurants in Israel and those who perished in the World Trade Center and Washinton's Pentagon. The time to release Pollard is now and let this action serve as a shining and fresh example to our enemies as to the extent of the friendship and cooperation which exists today in 2005 between both democracies.


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To: bvw

Pollard gave his word of honor that he would not betray classified information to persons not allowed to receive it. He broke that word.

Also, Israel was the SECOND country he approached about becoming a spy. He sold out his loyalty to the high bidder.

Finally, he refuses (to this day) to assist in a damage assessment.


61 posted on 04/29/2005 5:24:36 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: sarasmom

American. Same kind of folks who owned the Mayflower, maybe related. Pre-1666, dear.


62 posted on 04/29/2005 5:28:35 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

"If not for Pollard when they did they would have used nukes."

What DID Pollard do, exactly?


63 posted on 04/29/2005 5:33:46 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Seven years of solitary. What kind of damage assessment do you think he can still give?

Still what you ask for from him says something. That's you know he's honest.

Ask the Walkers or Hanson for an assessment? Every word a lie. Even the true ones.

64 posted on 04/29/2005 5:37:04 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

"Seven years of solitary. What kind of damage assessment do you think he can still give?"

The one he refused to give back in 1985, which was a condition of his proposed plea bargain.

"Still what you ask for from him says something. That's you know he's honest."

No, it means that I know he promised to give a damage assessment, and then reneged on doing so. That is not a working definition of "honest."


65 posted on 04/29/2005 5:40:50 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: bvw

Oh I am so impressed...not.
America consists of two rather large, semi-contiguous continents.
The USA is a separate,disinct and sovereign nation in North America.

BTW, my ancestors greeted the Mayflower, along with all the other many ships that arrived centuries before on their shores.
LOL! Loser.


66 posted on 04/29/2005 5:41:44 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Pollard served more than his time. That's what he did. As the article says "Never has a spy in the employ of a friendly country received such a sentence. On average, spies working for countries considered US allies receive between 4-7 years in jail."

Israel knocked out Iraqs nukes. We didn't have to. Pollard should have been released the day Gulf War One ended. Or the Day we occupied Bagdad.

67 posted on 04/29/2005 5:43:22 PM PDT by bvw
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Can't say that. There's reasons why an honest man in his shoes might have had to reconsider. You or I we are not in his shoes.


68 posted on 04/29/2005 5:46:19 PM PDT by bvw
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To: SausageDog
He needs to be put in with the general population.

Apparently, his cellmate is the son of David Keene, the head of the American Conservative Union (ACU).

69 posted on 04/29/2005 5:46:37 PM PDT by Koblenz (Holland: a very tolerant country. Until someone shoots you on a public street in broad daylight...)
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To: bvw

"Pollard served more than his time. That's what he did. As the article says "Never has a spy in the employ of a friendly country received such a sentence. On average,
spies working for countries considered US allies receive between 4-7 years in jail.""

That's because, among other things, they complied with the terms of their plea bargains. Pollard did not. He REFUSED to give any information on what he gave to Israel, or who specifically received it.

By the way, did you know that Pollard's case officer was arrested by the Israelis for selling stuff to the Russians?

"Israel knocked out Iraqs nukes. We didn't have to."

Israel bombed the Osirak reactor about three years before they got anything from Pollard. So Pollard does not get any credit for this deed.

So how did Pollard save us from getting nuked on 9/11?

"Pollard should have been released the day Gulf War One ended. Or the Day we occupied Bagdad."

Why? He made promises and broke them repeatedly. Dishonorable scumbags belong in jail, not walking around free.


70 posted on 04/29/2005 5:48:30 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: bvw

"Can't say that. There's reasons why an honest man in his shoes might have had to reconsider. You or I we are not in his shoes."

It's a contract. The price tag for breach of contract is that one is no longer entitled to the consideration on the other side of the contract.


71 posted on 04/29/2005 5:49:25 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Israel knocked out the nukes, Israel wants Pollard. There's a debt of honor, eh?

I admit to not checking google as to when the Osirak reactor was bombed and when Pollard did his spying. If that's not right it is a misconception I've had, but there is some reason for that kind of thing or something similar.

Oh! I remember now. It was BECAUSE some parts of the US intelligence community decided to punish Israel for it's hubris in bombing Osirak! It exposed methodologies or somesuch.

So Pollard decided to make up for that dishonorable action. Dishonorable because Israel did us then a great favor, and got punched down by these super-secret super-intelligentalists because of it. And of course that mighty brain thrust missed 9/11, and all the other attacks -- WTC I, Cole, Khobar, etc. etc. So focused on the mighty mighty Russkies!

But the Russkies were all a-tatters, falling apart internally, fighting over mines, banks and assets.

Pollard's acts -- who knows -- maybe they were the most effective of all in those times in assuring our US security. I'll put that forth as a tenable proposition.

72 posted on 04/29/2005 6:07:40 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

"Israel knocked out the nukes, Israel wants Pollard. There's a debt of honor, eh?"

Israel sells advanced weapons technology developed here to countries such as China. Please do not speak of a "debt of honor."

If I steal technology and information from your company, but then proceed to whack the local firebug around so that he doesn't (hypothetically) burn your business down, and I resell that stolen information to one of your competitors...I should get a pass for the hypothetical good deed I did for you.

Have I accurately stated your position?


73 posted on 04/29/2005 6:18:14 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: sarasmom
Spare me the breathless hyperbole. It simply defies reason for an analyst who's crimes may have inadvertently given vital information to the Russians, to draw greater condemnation and harsher treatment, than an administrator that gave it to them directly, and lead to the actual deaths of field agents. That is, unless there is another factor involved.

Without that missing piece, it just looks like someone wants to put a dog to sleep, because it tried to bite them when they kicked it.

One need not be religious in the least to recognize the inherent immorality of a bureaucrat unilaterally taking it upon himself to "punish" the Israelis for bombing Osirak. The agreement to share intelligence with the Israelis was made way above Inman's pay grade, yet he chose to jeopardize a vital ally in a fit of pique over the way they handle their foreign affairs.

You can spout platitudes till you're blue, but nothing you've said so far provides sufficient reason for your over-the-top animosity toward this guy. There may indeed be mitigating circumstances I am unaware of, but if there are not, I can only be thankful you've retired if you are a typical example of our analytical talent.

74 posted on 04/29/2005 8:22:47 PM PDT by Woahhs (America is an idea, not an address.)
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To: Woahhs
"The agreement to share intelligence with the Israelis was made way above Inman's pay grade, yet he chose to jeopardize a vital ally in a fit of pique over the way they handle their foreign affairs."

Well stated!

Can any Pollard / Israel basher here please tell us "how much" money Pollard received from the "highest bidder?"

Again, this is not about Jonathan Pollard, not after serving 20 years. This is about keeping Israel in prison, for Pollard represents the image of Israeli security in the US. Something for which the US is and should be jealous of.

We must all remember that the Pollard Affair took place 20 years ago, before 9/11. Pollard represents division between the US and Israel - something we do not in these days of Islamic terrorism.

In the name of justice and humanity, release this symbol of Jerusalem and let's focus on our real enemies - Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia.

If Pollard is not released in the immediate future, I would suggest to the Israeli government to start "detaining" CIA / NSA and Mil Intel operatives who are now spying on Israel's military and hi-tech infrastructure. Subsequent threats of depriving Israel of military and economic aid would be impotent as US defense contractors would have to cancel some golf outings ;>

75 posted on 04/29/2005 8:52:15 PM PDT by IsraelBeach
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To: sarasmom
Only the ignorant,fools and anti-USA individuals agitate for his release.IMNSHO.

I am neither ignorant, nor foolish, and I'm firmly committed to the belief that Pollard should be turned over to Israel. As an aside, it's always the people who should have the humblest of opinions who never do.

76 posted on 05/02/2005 4:13:09 PM PDT by Melas
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To: bvw

You win the cigar. A man who actually reads the constitution, a rarity in this thread.


77 posted on 05/02/2005 4:15:55 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas

Why?
Pollard is not an Israeli citizen.
He just got paid to spy for Israel against his country and his own voluntarily sworn oathes.
Why should I pretend to fasely have a "humble opinion" of his deserved fate?


78 posted on 05/02/2005 5:18:18 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: Woahhs

Spare ME your willfull ignorance.

The facts you claim you "are unaware of" is not a concern of mine.
Nor do I care what you label my stated opinions.
"Breathless hyperbole" seems to be your forte, not mine.
Pollard will rightfully die in prison, serving out his extraordinarily lenient sentence to its full completion.
He should have been executed years ago.


79 posted on 05/02/2005 7:26:13 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: sarasmom
Why?

Because it's time. There comes a point, where punisment is no longer just. There comes a point, where punishment just becomes cruelty. We've passed that point. That's the simplest explanation I can give, and I know in advance that you not only disagree, but will take great umbrage that I even hold an opinion so markedly different from your own.

80 posted on 05/02/2005 7:42:31 PM PDT by Melas
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