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Munch masterpieces destroyed?
Aftenposten (Norway) ^ | April 28, 2005 | Unsigned

Posted on 04/28/2005 2:35:50 PM PDT by aculeus

The Munch masterpieces "The Scream" and "Madonna" have been incinerated, according to newspaper Dagbladet, citing criminal sources and a top secret police report.

The paper claimed Thursday that the paintings were destroyed in order to get rid of damning evidence as the police investigation closes in on the culprits behind the robbery.

Investigation leader Iver Stensrud of the Oslo police said he had no knowledge of the supposedly secret report acknowledging the destruction of the paintings.

"This is completely unknown to Oslo police. I basically have no comment and normally we do not use Dagbladet as a reliable source here at the Oslo police," Stensrud told NRK (Norwegian Broadcasting).

Three people are in custody in connection with the Munch robbery, but none of them are linked to crime via technical evidence, and the pair that carried out the heist are considered to be at large.

Dagbladet cited both criminal and police sources in their reportage, and said that police expect new arrests in the case shortly.

(Aftenposten English Web Desk/NTB)

This is an article from www.aftenposten.no. Updated: 28. april 2005 kl.12:00 © Aftenposten Multimedia.

Publisher: Aftenposten Multimedia A/S, Oslo, Norway.


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KEYWORDS: art; munch; norway; thescream
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1 posted on 04/28/2005 2:35:50 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Burned or 'relocated' to a police chief's basement?


2 posted on 04/28/2005 2:36:57 PM PDT by mnehring (http://www.mlearningworld.com)
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To: aculeus

The Night Fox would never burn a painting. I can see burning a forgery to throw off the police.


3 posted on 04/28/2005 2:37:41 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: aculeus

It's enough to make someone scream.


4 posted on 04/28/2005 2:38:53 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: aculeus
How about repainting them from memory, after all everybody in the world has seen them.

Its not like they were a grandma moses or a norman rockwell.

5 posted on 04/28/2005 2:40:27 PM PDT by dts32041 (Two words that shouldn't be used in the same sentence Grizzly bear and violate.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

"The scream" always made me think the person was being burned alive. Life imitates art.


6 posted on 04/28/2005 2:40:46 PM PDT by Arkie2
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To: MeanWestTexan
*groan...*

:o)

7 posted on 04/28/2005 2:40:51 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: MeanWestTexan

The obligatory pic.
8 posted on 04/28/2005 2:41:21 PM PDT by risk
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To: aculeus

Dammmmmmmmm...I want to Scream!!!!!!!


9 posted on 04/28/2005 2:41:55 PM PDT by woofie (I am so not kidding.)
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To: risk
VK Scream


10 posted on 04/28/2005 2:43:21 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: K4Harty

lol!


11 posted on 04/28/2005 2:45:31 PM PDT by risk
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To: Liz; Joe 6-pack; woofie; vannrox; giotto; iceskater; Conspiracy Guy; B Knotts; Dolphy; ...

Art ping.

Please let me know if you want on or off the art ping list.

Reserving judgment for now on the veracity of this.


12 posted on 04/28/2005 2:45:42 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: aculeus
The Munch masterpieces "The Scream" and "Madonna" have been incinerated

no loss

13 posted on 04/28/2005 2:46:31 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: risk

I love that pic...just found it and posted it.


14 posted on 04/28/2005 2:46:51 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: aculeus

Munch never painted a masterpiece.

I visited the Munch Museum in Norway. The man was obviously miserable and he wanted to share the experience with the viewers of his work. The most depressing experience of my life. They should hand out Prozac at the door.

:-)


15 posted on 04/28/2005 2:47:34 PM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: Age of Reason
Also, it wasn't insured. Odd.
16 posted on 04/28/2005 2:48:58 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: Arkie2

I read that that The Scream was painted shortly after A large volcanic explosion (Krakatoa?) and that the sky really was that red at sunset.


17 posted on 04/28/2005 2:51:21 PM PDT by TX Bluebonnet
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To: aculeus

There's apparently some dispute about whether or not "the Scream" and "the Madonna" by Edvard Munch were actually destroyed.

I don't have the link, but according to the Louisville (Kentucky) Courier-Journal, the Norwegian police are "disputing" "sensational newspaper reports."


18 posted on 04/28/2005 2:52:08 PM PDT by franksolich (inside the DUmmie "MoPaul"'s head 24/7/365)
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To: K4Harty; Americanwolf; AQGeiger; Beaker; BenLurkin; baltodog; BJClinton; big'ol_freeper; ...

That's hilarious!

Good PING to the VK's - come and see art imitating us!!


19 posted on 04/28/2005 2:55:24 PM PDT by Old Sarge (In for a penny, in for a pound, saddlin' up and Baghdad-bound!)
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To: 68 grunt; beckysueb; Born Conservative; cinives; Constantine XIII; dennisw; Eurotwit; feefee; ...
Ping for the Norway ping list.

Image hosted by Photobucket.com
20 posted on 04/28/2005 2:55:26 PM PDT by franksolich (inside the DUmmie "MoPaul"'s head 24/7/365)
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To: aculeus

I've always felt that the scream represented liberals. Perhaps its fitting that the painting goes down in flames, just like Liberalism.


21 posted on 04/28/2005 2:55:40 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Question Liberalism)
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To: aculeus
That's okay...this is my favorite version of "The Scream" anyway.


22 posted on 04/28/2005 2:57:29 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (I was Lucy Ramirez when being Lucy Ramirez was't cool.)
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To: K4Harty; Slings and Arrows; Glenn; quantim; republicangel; Bahbah; Beaker; BADROTOFINGER; ...
Ping to post #10 - I think that cat just found out what "fixed" means!
---
Kitty Ping List alert!

[Freepmail me to get on or off the Kitty Ping List.]

23 posted on 04/28/2005 2:59:18 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("You would have to double your IQ to be stupid. " --zip)
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To: aculeus

Better put Mr. Bean on the case.


24 posted on 04/28/2005 3:01:24 PM PDT by Argus (This tagline will self-destruct in ten seconds...nine...eight...)
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To: aculeus

Interesting. I hate "The Scream," but I'm not in favor of vaporizing it. If fingerprints were the real concern, that means they planned to sell it right away - but how could anybody possibly buy it now? Even the most corrupt collector would know he could never show it to anybody. Curiouser and curiouser.


25 posted on 04/28/2005 3:01:48 PM PDT by livius
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To: aculeus
If the thieves videoed the burning, it would make a good "conceptual art" exhibit.
26 posted on 04/28/2005 3:05:35 PM PDT by MRMEAN (Nuke the border!)
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To: Your Nightmare
I visited the Munch Museum in Norway. The man was obviously miserable and he wanted to share the experience with the viewers of his work

Well, maybe better to be miserable than crazy, LOL! Try taking a walk through the Salvador Dali Museum!!

27 posted on 04/28/2005 3:05:54 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Old Sarge

I'm still LOL since I found that.


28 posted on 04/28/2005 3:07:53 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: livius

Much more likely that the paintings would be ransommed than sold. I seriously doubt that they have been destroyed.


29 posted on 04/28/2005 3:12:26 PM PDT by elli1
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To: dawn53
I visit the Dali Museum in St. Pete whenever I can, and I spend hours there. The man was a genius and crazy like a fox.

Anyone who has seen his work in this museum will bear out my hard-nosed critique that Dali's work is stunning.

Leni

30 posted on 04/28/2005 3:16:53 PM PDT by MinuteGal ("The Marines keep coming. We are shooting, but the Marines won't stop !" (Fallujah Terrorists)
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To: franksolich

You know Frank, threads like this make me wonder why I am at this site to begin with. Endless comments filled with negative vitriol. Were it not for your list, I wouldn't have bothered at this point.


31 posted on 04/28/2005 3:29:20 PM PDT by Tamberlane
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To: Tamberlane

What are you talking about?


32 posted on 04/28/2005 3:31:33 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The quiet ones are the ones that change the universe. The loud ones only take the credit)
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To: aculeus
I've got just the guy to solve the mystery.


33 posted on 04/28/2005 3:34:25 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: K4Harty

LOL! Good picture.


34 posted on 04/28/2005 3:35:01 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: dawn53

I like Dali's work. What that says about me... I would like to plead the 5th.

Munch's work reminds me of something I did in HS. I hated the finished product, but it was a lot of fun to do. My teacher told me it was the best thing I ever produced. LOL I swear, I do not understand why the artsy fartsy crowd likes "art" that is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.


35 posted on 04/28/2005 3:38:34 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I'm talking about all the 'no loss' comments.


36 posted on 04/28/2005 3:39:06 PM PDT by Tamberlane
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To: risk
That's not the stolen version. This is:


37 posted on 04/28/2005 3:41:10 PM PDT by Tamberlane
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To: MinuteGal

I find the Dali museum fascinating, but I do think the guy was "crazy" in a way.

Have you ever seen one of his TV interviews that he did years ago?

The guy was just unbelievably bizarre.


38 posted on 04/28/2005 3:47:40 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Tamberlane
So? Some people happen to think that art is no big deal. Some people don't like art that is not pretty. Some people don't think any art has been produced in the past 200 years.

I happen to like The Scream and have a copy in my office. But I respect that other people don't. It is not as if they burned it personally. It is not as if they advocated burning it. They just don't perceive it as a loss. That is their opinion and they are entitled to express it and you are entitled to disagree with it and defend your point of view.

You didn't do that. Instead you insulted everyone on this thread.

If you can not deal with differences of opinion then you are right. This is not the site for you.

39 posted on 04/28/2005 3:47:58 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The quiet ones are the ones that change the universe. The loud ones only take the credit)
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To: hispanarepublicana
LOL...

I'd vouch for the authenticity of that image as a genuine Butt-Munch.

40 posted on 04/28/2005 3:52:46 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: MeanWestTexan

My definition of art?

If it looks like I could have done it, it isn't art.


41 posted on 04/28/2005 3:55:31 PM PDT by SampleMan
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To: GoLightly

It's not just the art department by any means. In Lit or composition classes, every time I'd make a strong, careful, consciencous effort on an assignment I'd score somewhere near a "C". If I gave up and decided to fill the pages with utter nonsense I'd score an "A" without fail.


42 posted on 04/28/2005 3:58:40 PM PDT by WireAndWood (The Freeper formerly known as LouisWu)
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To: risk
How about a little Motley Crew "Primal Scream & Shout" to go with?

Trajan88

43 posted on 04/28/2005 4:06:13 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Instead you insulted everyone on this thread.

Horrors. I feel so terribly guilty now.

44 posted on 04/28/2005 4:06:34 PM PDT by Tamberlane
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To: Tamberlane
Ah, so you feel justified at flinging vitriol at people but heaven forfend that anyone should not care for a painting.

Thank you for the most delightful insight into your personality.

45 posted on 04/28/2005 4:10:52 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The quiet ones are the ones that change the universe. The loud ones only take the credit)
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To: Tamberlane

This is art. A guy with a light bulb head.


46 posted on 04/28/2005 4:13:13 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: aculeus

Somehow, this must be America's fault.


47 posted on 04/28/2005 4:19:06 PM PDT by rabidralph (My truck appreciates the rest of you driving fuel-efficient vehicles.)
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To: dawn53
Dali's use of grotesque imagery in his paintings made some people think he himself was mad. His uncommon mustache, a work of art in itself, added to the illusion.

However, he also painted powerful religious masterpieces. He also painted in the classical manner when moved to do so.

In interviews and on TV, Dali loved to mystify and shock the public. It helped sell his paintings for huge sums.....that's why I said above he was crazy like a fox.

He was a complex individual, to be sure, but it was undoubtedly part of the inborn temperment of a true artistic genius.

If you stand in front of some "weird" Dali painting for a while as I have, and go beyond your first view, you'll begin to notice scores of carefully crafted (sometimes hidden) details in the foregrounds, backgrounds, corners, and upper areas. They have definite symbolisms which make you want to read books on him to see what they mean. Fascinating stuff.

Some of his paintings fool the eye. By squinting your eyes or standing back a ways, you'll see a subject in the painting totally change to something else. It's lots of fun to participate in Dali's little games.

Dali was indeed an artistic genius, albeit with his own unconventional style.....as well as an incredibly masterful draftsman, illustrator and mechanic of surreal perspective, arts which he mixed in with the emotional sides of his paintings.

I always feel that the so-called "mad" artists actually are those losers who paint with urine/defecation, and who desecrate Christ's image. These poseurs are truly the ones who are mentally and morally twisted.

I hope if you ever get to St. Petersburg, you'll visit the Dali Museum. It's quite an experience.

Let me know and I'll join you and give you the Cook's tour, LOL.

Leni

48 posted on 04/28/2005 4:26:21 PM PDT by MinuteGal ("The Marines keep coming. We are shooting, but the Marines won't stop !" (Fallujah Terrorists)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Especially as vitriol is almost never flung at people around here. Oh no.

In fact, it's routinely flung at entire peoples or collections of such, be it Europeans or the dreaded Arabs. A thread on hunger in Zimbabwe today pullulated with racist sentiment. (I didn't speak out against it; now there is something I feel slightly shameful about. Your guilt trip I'll pass on, however.)

49 posted on 04/28/2005 4:26:24 PM PDT by Tamberlane
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To: MinuteGal
P.S......I love "The Scream".

It's the perfect portrait of me when my computer suddenly crashes after I've almost finished crafting a particularly long and brilliant comment to be posted on FR.

I think everyone can relate to "The Scream" in his/her own way.

......which is why it's still so popular after all these many decades and was deemed important enough to be hung in a museum to attract the public.

Leni

50 posted on 04/28/2005 4:34:24 PM PDT by MinuteGal ("The Marines keep coming. We are shooting, but the Marines won't stop !" (Fallujah Terrorists)
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