Skip to comments.Munch masterpieces destroyed?
Posted on 04/28/2005 2:35:50 PM PDT by aculeus
The Munch masterpieces "The Scream" and "Madonna" have been incinerated, according to newspaper Dagbladet, citing criminal sources and a top secret police report.
The paper claimed Thursday that the paintings were destroyed in order to get rid of damning evidence as the police investigation closes in on the culprits behind the robbery.
Investigation leader Iver Stensrud of the Oslo police said he had no knowledge of the supposedly secret report acknowledging the destruction of the paintings.
"This is completely unknown to Oslo police. I basically have no comment and normally we do not use Dagbladet as a reliable source here at the Oslo police," Stensrud told NRK (Norwegian Broadcasting).
Three people are in custody in connection with the Munch robbery, but none of them are linked to crime via technical evidence, and the pair that carried out the heist are considered to be at large.
Dagbladet cited both criminal and police sources in their reportage, and said that police expect new arrests in the case shortly.
(Aftenposten English Web Desk/NTB)
This is an article from www.aftenposten.no. Updated: 28. april 2005 kl.12:00 © Aftenposten Multimedia.
Publisher: Aftenposten Multimedia A/S, Oslo, Norway.
Burned or 'relocated' to a police chief's basement?
The Night Fox would never burn a painting. I can see burning a forgery to throw off the police.
It's enough to make someone scream.
Its not like they were a grandma moses or a norman rockwell.
"The scream" always made me think the person was being burned alive. Life imitates art.
Dammmmmmmmm...I want to Scream!!!!!!!
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Reserving judgment for now on the veracity of this.
I love that pic...just found it and posted it.
Munch never painted a masterpiece.
I visited the Munch Museum in Norway. The man was obviously miserable and he wanted to share the experience with the viewers of his work. The most depressing experience of my life. They should hand out Prozac at the door.
I read that that The Scream was painted shortly after A large volcanic explosion (Krakatoa?) and that the sky really was that red at sunset.
There's apparently some dispute about whether or not "the Scream" and "the Madonna" by Edvard Munch were actually destroyed.
I don't have the link, but according to the Louisville (Kentucky) Courier-Journal, the Norwegian police are "disputing" "sensational newspaper reports."
Good PING to the VK's - come and see art imitating us!!
I've always felt that the scream represented liberals. Perhaps its fitting that the painting goes down in flames, just like Liberalism.
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Better put Mr. Bean on the case.
Interesting. I hate "The Scream," but I'm not in favor of vaporizing it. If fingerprints were the real concern, that means they planned to sell it right away - but how could anybody possibly buy it now? Even the most corrupt collector would know he could never show it to anybody. Curiouser and curiouser.
Well, maybe better to be miserable than crazy, LOL! Try taking a walk through the Salvador Dali Museum!!
I'm still LOL since I found that.
Much more likely that the paintings would be ransommed than sold. I seriously doubt that they have been destroyed.
Anyone who has seen his work in this museum will bear out my hard-nosed critique that Dali's work is stunning.
You know Frank, threads like this make me wonder why I am at this site to begin with. Endless comments filled with negative vitriol. Were it not for your list, I wouldn't have bothered at this point.
What are you talking about?
LOL! Good picture.
I like Dali's work. What that says about me... I would like to plead the 5th.
Munch's work reminds me of something I did in HS. I hated the finished product, but it was a lot of fun to do. My teacher told me it was the best thing I ever produced. LOL I swear, I do not understand why the artsy fartsy crowd likes "art" that is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.
I'm talking about all the 'no loss' comments.
I find the Dali museum fascinating, but I do think the guy was "crazy" in a way.
Have you ever seen one of his TV interviews that he did years ago?
The guy was just unbelievably bizarre.
I happen to like The Scream and have a copy in my office. But I respect that other people don't. It is not as if they burned it personally. It is not as if they advocated burning it. They just don't perceive it as a loss. That is their opinion and they are entitled to express it and you are entitled to disagree with it and defend your point of view.
You didn't do that. Instead you insulted everyone on this thread.
If you can not deal with differences of opinion then you are right. This is not the site for you.
I'd vouch for the authenticity of that image as a genuine Butt-Munch.
My definition of art?
If it looks like I could have done it, it isn't art.
It's not just the art department by any means. In Lit or composition classes, every time I'd make a strong, careful, consciencous effort on an assignment I'd score somewhere near a "C". If I gave up and decided to fill the pages with utter nonsense I'd score an "A" without fail.
Horrors. I feel so terribly guilty now.
Thank you for the most delightful insight into your personality.
This is art. A guy with a light bulb head.
Somehow, this must be America's fault.
However, he also painted powerful religious masterpieces. He also painted in the classical manner when moved to do so.
In interviews and on TV, Dali loved to mystify and shock the public. It helped sell his paintings for huge sums.....that's why I said above he was crazy like a fox.
He was a complex individual, to be sure, but it was undoubtedly part of the inborn temperment of a true artistic genius.
If you stand in front of some "weird" Dali painting for a while as I have, and go beyond your first view, you'll begin to notice scores of carefully crafted (sometimes hidden) details in the foregrounds, backgrounds, corners, and upper areas. They have definite symbolisms which make you want to read books on him to see what they mean. Fascinating stuff.
Some of his paintings fool the eye. By squinting your eyes or standing back a ways, you'll see a subject in the painting totally change to something else. It's lots of fun to participate in Dali's little games.
Dali was indeed an artistic genius, albeit with his own unconventional style.....as well as an incredibly masterful draftsman, illustrator and mechanic of surreal perspective, arts which he mixed in with the emotional sides of his paintings.
I always feel that the so-called "mad" artists actually are those losers who paint with urine/defecation, and who desecrate Christ's image. These poseurs are truly the ones who are mentally and morally twisted.
I hope if you ever get to St. Petersburg, you'll visit the Dali Museum. It's quite an experience.
Let me know and I'll join you and give you the Cook's tour, LOL.
In fact, it's routinely flung at entire peoples or collections of such, be it Europeans or the dreaded Arabs. A thread on hunger in Zimbabwe today pullulated with racist sentiment. (I didn't speak out against it; now there is something I feel slightly shameful about. Your guilt trip I'll pass on, however.)
It's the perfect portrait of me when my computer suddenly crashes after I've almost finished crafting a particularly long and brilliant comment to be posted on FR.
I think everyone can relate to "The Scream" in his/her own way.
......which is why it's still so popular after all these many decades and was deemed important enough to be hung in a museum to attract the public.