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MARYMOUNT MANHATTAN COLLEGE DECLARED NOT CATHOLIC by Archdiocese of New York [Hillary at issue]
Cardinal Newman Society E-mail Alert ^ | Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:34:13 -0700 | Cardinal Newman Society

Posted on 04/28/2005 3:30:37 PM PDT by Diago

Thank you everyone who participated in Cardinal Newman Society's protest against Hillary Clinton's commencement address and honorary degree at Marymount Manhattan College! Your actions have led to a just outcome and will send a strong message to other wayward Catholic colleges. Please continue to help us protest several other commencement scandals -- more details to come next week! -- CNS

DURING CNS PROTEST OF HILLARY CLINTON HONORS, MARYMOUNT MANHATTAN COLLEGE DECLARED NOT CATHOLIC

(April 28, 2005)

The Archdiocese of New York has formally declared Marymount Manhattan College -- which has been under protest by the Cardinal Newman Society for inviting pro-abortion Sen. Hillary Clinton to give its commencement address and receive an honorary degree on May 20 -- no longer a Catholic institution. The College will no longer be listed in The Official Catholic Directory, which identifies institutions including Marymount Manhattan College that are formally recognized as Catholic.

This is the fourth time since Pope John Paul II issued Ex Corde Ecclesiae, the apostolic constitution on Catholic universities, that a bishop has declared an historically Catholic college or university to be not Catholic. The 1990 document gives local bishops the responsibility of determining whether colleges can bear the label “Catholic.” Catholic colleges established prior to 1990 are assumed to be Catholic and to conform sufficiently to the guidelines of Ex Corde Ecclesiae until a bishop declares otherwise.

Marist College in Poughkeepsie, New York, was declared “no longer Catholic” by Cardinal Edward Egan of the Archdiocese of New York in 2003, during a similar protest by Cardinal Newman Society of the college’s commencement speaker, pro-abortion New York Attorney General Elliott Spitzer. CNS also protested Spitzer as the commencement speaker at Marymount Manhattan College last year, but no public action was taken by the Archdiocese and the College took no step to end its affiliation with the Catholic Church. Two other historically Catholic colleges in Rochester, New York -- Nazareth College and Saint John Fisher College -- have been declared no longer Catholic by Bishop Matthew Clark.

“The decision to honor one of Congress’ most outspoken and strident advocates of abortion rights was just the latest episode in a long history of secularization at Marymount Manhattan College,” said Patrick J. Reilly, President of the Cardinal Newman Society (CNS), in a press release. CNS is a national organization dedicated to the renewal of Catholic identity at America’s 220 -- now 219 -- Catholic colleges and universities.

“Why the College chose to remain officially Catholic while turning traitor against the Catholic Church, I cannot say," Reilly continued. "This is a good day for those seeking truth and clarity, but at the same time a sad day for Catholics, who founded, attended and funded this college only to be turned away for the sake of government funding and private ambitions.”

CNS wrote Cardinal Egan on April 14, complaining about Marymount Manhattan College’s plans to honor Sen. Clinton and suggesting “immediate action to prevent scandal in the Archdiocese of New York.” CNS asked Cardinal Egan to consider advising the College privately to withdraw Clinton’s invitation, but also acknowledged “that the enforcement of Ex Corde Ecclesiae may require the declaration that an institution is no longer Catholic, and we support such action if Marymount Manhattan College obstinately refuses to acknowledge your pastoral authority as bishop and to uphold the Church’s fundamental teachings.”

According to the Archdiocese of New York, the College’s officials agreed with today’s action. Indeed, College employees had been rebuffing CNS protesters of the Clinton honors by claiming that Marymount Manhattan College has not been Catholic since 1961, when it separated from its parent institution, Marymount College of Tarrytown, and its founding women’s religious order, the Religious of the Sacred Heart of Mary. In fact, the College’s actions in 1961 were similar to those of most other Catholic institutions throughout the country that incorporated separate from the Church to qualify for state government funding. The vast majority of those colleges continue to claim a Catholic identity while slowly secularizing, and Marymount Manhattan College is not much different -- any apparent trace of its Catholic identity has disappeared over time, even though until today it preserved its official status as Catholic, possibly to avoid alienating its Catholic alumni and donors.

“There is tremendous value to clearly and formally identifying wayward Catholic institutions as no longer Catholic, as Cardinal Egan has done so courageously,” Reilly said. “If Senator Clinton had a similar degree of dignity, she might have declined the College’s honor out of respect for faithful Catholics who are appalled by her stridency on abortion and embryonic stem cell research. If the College’s trustees and officials had a similar degree of dignity, they might have chosen to respect the College’s roots and give their students something young people today are longing for -- a moral education rooted in the truth about God and man.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New York
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

But it is my understanding that these Catholic colleges are not run by the Church and therefore not owned by the Church.

Now I am very confused. What am I missing?


101 posted on 04/29/2005 10:37:52 AM PDT by It's me
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To: Diago

at this Jebbie school we had Mel Gibson as commencement speaker last year...


102 posted on 04/29/2005 11:51:07 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: Aquinasfan

diff


103 posted on 04/29/2005 11:58:06 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: oldironsides

Yes, you are correct, this was in way upstate NY, perhaps Buffalo or Syracuse? V's wife.


104 posted on 04/29/2005 4:31:04 PM PDT by ventana
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To: ventana

Marist is not way upstate. It's pretty close to the city actually.


105 posted on 04/29/2005 4:38:20 PM PDT by rampage8
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To: rampage8

No I refer to the church in upstate NY where Hillary was allowed to talk and parishoners saying the rosary were given the boot... V's wife.


106 posted on 04/29/2005 6:21:57 PM PDT by ventana
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To: Diago
It is so wonderful that the liberals fall down.
107 posted on 04/29/2005 6:24:02 PM PDT by Porterville (Inside the heart of every murderer is a communist. Murderism= Communism= Liberalism)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Pope Benedict, like his predecessor John Paul, has insisted that in modern times, maximum security prisons make its possible to incarcerate murderers and other violent felons without possibility of parole, and in such a way that they are no longer a threat to society. They have advanced the teaching that if this is possible, then executions should be vanishingly rare.

I have a HUGE problem with this line of reasoning. I believe murderers should be executed as punishment for their heinous crimes, not because society is unable to adequetely incarcerate them. Capital punishment is either right or wrong. The Catholic church seems to say society can only execute people when it can't contain them. Would this logic then allow pro-abortionists to say babies can be aborted when thier mother's can't afford the children? Possibly.

108 posted on 04/29/2005 6:40:23 PM PDT by rmmcdaniell
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To: rmmcdaniell

I am fairly certain there have been dungeons since the time of Christ. Since the Catholic Church has approved of the death penalty for 2,000 years, I think JP II was simply wrong when he attempted to "evolve" the church teaching on this subject.

Indeed, in the old days, there were no juries, no DNA testing, and no appeals. The death penalty today is much more just.


109 posted on 04/29/2005 7:27:55 PM PDT by Diago
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To: Diago

Sounds like Catholics are starting to take back their Church. Growing some courage.


110 posted on 04/29/2005 7:32:45 PM PDT by mlmr (The Culture of Death will get a lot more deadly before it's done.)
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To: Siobhan; ELS; eastsider
He wants to remain Cardinal Archbishop of New York and not "promoted" to obscurity at the Vatican

He's slated for retirement soon enough.

Was O'Connor really the stand-up gut he get credit for being? Sometimes I wonder if he couldn't have done more.

ELS: do you have any theory about Myers's chances to swim the Hudson?

111 posted on 04/29/2005 9:48:56 PM PDT by Romulus (Der Inn fließt in den Tiber.)
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To: Diago
The College will no longer be listed in The Official Catholic Directory, which identifies institutions including Marymount Manhattan College that are formally recognized as Catholic.

Good.

112 posted on 04/30/2005 8:54:19 AM PDT by b4its2late (Liberals are good examples of why some animals eat their young.)
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To: Romulus; eastsider; Siobhan
Was O'Connor really the stand-up guy he gets credit for being?

I didn't follow events closely while he was Arch. of NY, but I do remember hearing about his statements. At least he did speak up for life, truth, etc. I have only been aware of Egan speaking up once early in his tenure as Arch. of NY and that was in opposition to some odious legislation in Albany.

Do you have any theory about Myers's chances to swim the Hudson?

I really don't have enough information to formulate a theory. I think Myers has had input into the recent episcopal appointments in NJ. I have heard that he really didn't want to be in Newark. IMHO, I think he would be an improvement over Egan.

Maybe the Holy Ghost will raise up a humble, holy and little known man to the See of New York.

113 posted on 04/30/2005 10:32:06 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Primetimedonna

I can hardly wait to read your comments to my husband. Absolutely priceless!


114 posted on 04/30/2005 10:42:54 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE



HILLARY =
Supporter of our terrorist enemy HO CHI MINH during the Vietnam War against Freedom's survival in South Vietnam

HILLARY =

Supporter of our terrorist enemies in a new time of war with our own Freedom now directly at stake here at home

***Don't forget Hillary Rodham Clinton rode with the anarchist/domestic terrorist Black Panthers' militancy.

Lest we forget: Nixon finalized (backed-out as honourably as possible)the Viet Nam war which started during Eisenhower's presidential administration, continued, in fact, excellerated throughout Dem. JFK's and Dem. Johnson's presidential administrations. I've listened to TOO MANY Democrats falsely attribute the Viet Nam war to Richard Nixon.


115 posted on 04/30/2005 2:49:54 PM PDT by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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To: purpleland
More interesting reading: CINO No More? (Writer wonders if Klocek free speech case requires papal intervention)
116 posted on 04/30/2005 4:59:22 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John (Chicago White Sox, off to a great start!)
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To: ventana

bump


117 posted on 04/30/2005 6:24:29 PM PDT by ventana ("The essential things in history begin always with the small, more convinced communities." Ratzinger)
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To: Romulus; ELS; ventana

I understand from my sister that Cardinal Egan wants to remain in New York "in power" until he is 78. So I've been told to expect a "makeover" for Egan to make him look like Pope Benedict's best ally. There's more, but that's enough for now really. God bless.


118 posted on 04/30/2005 8:04:46 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Christianity is, by its very nature, joy -- the ability to be joyful." -- Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger)
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To: ventana

It was Buffalo, wasn't it? That's what rings a bell.


119 posted on 04/30/2005 8:06:14 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Christianity is, by its very nature, joy -- the ability to be joyful." -- Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger)
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To: Siobhan

Yeah, I think:Buffalo. V's wife.


120 posted on 05/01/2005 5:22:59 AM PDT by ventana ("The essential things in history begin always with the small, more convinced communities." Ratzinger)
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To: rmmcdaniell
You wrote: The Catholic church seems to say society can only execute people when it can't contain them. Would this logic then allow pro-abortionists to say babies can be aborted when thier mother's can't afford the children?

I'm afraid I'm not following you here. The Church is talking about sparing lives. The abortionists are talking about destroying lives. Those are opposites. Not all killing is murder. But the deliberate killing of innocent persons is always murder. That's why it cannot be justified under any circumstances: Killing 30 babies every Saturday at Women's Surgi-center or killing 100,000 civilians in Nagasaki or killing sexual rival with a baseball bat.

121 posted on 05/01/2005 8:19:27 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (\\\The cafeteria closed. But the food's real good at the Bishop's Table. ///////)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I'm afraid I'm not following you here. The Church is talking about sparing lives. The abortionists are talking about destroying lives.

You seem to be just another zealot who ignores their church's logical contradictions. No need to respond further.

122 posted on 05/01/2005 10:16:05 AM PDT by rmmcdaniell
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To: rmmcdaniell

No really, I didn't understand your analogy. Are you saying there is no moral distinction whatever between a mother killing the baby in her womb, and political authorities killing a convicted felon? Or what?

All I need is further explanation here, which will be graciously received.


123 posted on 05/01/2005 2:01:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (\\\The cafeteria closed. But the food's real good at the Bishop's Table. ///////)
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To: Siobhan
I understand from my sister that Cardinal Egan wants to remain in New York "in power" until he is 78.

How old is he now? I thought ordinaries had to submit their resignation upon their 75th birthday. The major difference between Eddie and our Holy Father - for Eddie it's all about what he wants and for His Holiness it's all about what He wants.

So I've been told to expect a "makeover" for Egan to make him look like Pope Benedict's best ally.

Ugh. It seems to me that Cardinal George is Benedict XVI's best ally among the US Cardinals and Archbishop Burke his best ally among the US bishops.

124 posted on 05/01/2005 3:36:04 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: ELS; Siobhan
Edward Cardinal Egan was born on April 2, 1932, so I guess he must have just turned 73...

>>>mustering up charity here<<<..... I can't stand his voice.

125 posted on 05/01/2005 3:46:45 PM PDT by american colleen (Long live Benedict XVI!)
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To: ELS

Just because they have to submit their resignation doesn't mean it has to be accepted. Look at Cardinal O'Connor's age and think of competition...


126 posted on 05/01/2005 8:03:17 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Christianity is, by its very nature, joy -- the ability to be joyful." -- Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger)
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To: ELS
The major difference between Eddie and our Holy Father - for Eddie it's all about what he wants and for His Holiness it's all about what He wants.

Brilliantly said.

127 posted on 05/01/2005 8:05:12 PM PDT by Siobhan ("Christianity is, by its very nature, joy -- the ability to be joyful." -- Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger)
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To: oldironsides
Finally. There are truly more that should be added to that list, not just Notre Dame. Protesting parishioners prayed the rosary while she spoke and they were thrown out of their own church by strongmen. The church allowed their own to be tossed while this pro choice female pandered for votes.

Sadly, this sort of disease is common in some dioceses, 'old-fashioned' orthodox Catholics dissed and tossed out in favor of CINO's.

She is larger than all of it. Ask her.

Well, actually we don't ask her, we don't speak directly to her highness, we go through her people. And if our query is worthy, we are deigned a reponse. ;-)

128 posted on 05/03/2005 8:04:05 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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