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For Filibuster, The Senator Goes Nuclear (The Nuclear Option originated on Free Republic)
The New York Sun ^ | April 29, 2005 | Alicia Colon

Posted on 04/29/2005 3:38:17 PM PDT by Grand Old Partisan

The idea for implementing such a motion probably originated with an Internet posting on a conservative Web site written in 2003 by the author of “Back to Basics for the Republican Party,” Michael Zak, who has done extensive research on the GOP’s historical support for civil rights. The article brought Mr. Zak to the attention of the director of outreach at the Senate Policy Committee, Barbara Ledeen. Mr.Zak later explained his idea to a policy adviser in the office of the Senate majority leader, Senator Frist of Tennessee.

Mr. Zak also sent his option idea by e-mail to several key Senate staff members. In his proposal, Mr. Zak mentions the name of William Crum. He was a black man nominated five times by President Theodore Roosevelt for a federal post in South Carolina.The Democrats continually blocked his appointment, but Roosevelt finally succeeded by making him a recess appointment. Senator Hatch, the Utah Republican, mentioned that interesting historical tidbit on the Senate floor, but it never made it into the mainstream press.

Mr. Zak reminded the Republican leaders that Vice President Nixon tried to get the 1957 Civil Rights Act passed by bringing it directly to the Senate floor. Unfortunately, it was a Democratic Congress and the Republicans were outvoted. Mr. Zak suggested that Vice President Cheney bring the judicial nominations directly to the Senate and announce that a majority vote would be all that is necessary for them to be confirmed.

In the past, that sort of information would be buried, but thanks to the Internet and individuals like Michael Zak, it’s going to be harder for Mr. Schumer to pull the wool over our eyes.

(Excerpt) Read more at daily.nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 109th; backtobasics; cary; congrats; filibuster; judges; judiciary; michaelzak; nuclearoption; republican; senate; ussenate
Many people may recall my first posting this idea back in February 2003. The nuclear option -- though I would not use that name -- was based on an appreciation for the Republican Party's commendable, though forgotten, heritage of civil rights achievement. Setting the record straight is the purpose of the Lincoln-Reagan Freedom Foundation. and of Back to Basics for the Republican Party, a history of the GOP from the Republican point of view.
1 posted on 04/29/2005 3:38:18 PM PDT by Grand Old Partisan
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To: Grand Old Partisan

didn't you know? Everyone on FR has quit the GOP. /sarcasm


Seriously though, thanks for the research :)


2 posted on 04/29/2005 3:39:27 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (MikeinIraq in 2020!!)
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To: Grand Old Partisan

Bravo!


3 posted on 04/29/2005 3:42:11 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy ( Theresa Marie SCHINDLER - We will NEVER FORGET! - IMPEACH JUDGE GREER!!!)
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To: MikeinIraq

You have a wicked sense of humor today. I love it! I've quit the GOP at least three times today alone. LOL


4 posted on 04/29/2005 3:43:17 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (Don't let them Bork Bolton!)
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To: Grand Old Partisan
Well done, Partisan.
5 posted on 04/29/2005 3:43:28 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: CAluvdubya

Sheesh...only 3?!!! I stop counting at 5!! bawhahahha! :-]


6 posted on 04/29/2005 3:47:39 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Grand Old Partisan

7 posted on 04/29/2005 3:50:34 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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To: RoseofTexas

I quit too, and so did my fiance'....twice.


8 posted on 04/29/2005 3:50:49 PM PDT by juggernaut
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To: Saundra Duffy
I did some research on the fillibuster and wrote a column on it. If you want to debate the filibuster with a liberal you need to read my column. You will learn things never reported by todays main stream media.

Click here! The called nuclear option was used to create the Fillibuster in 1872

What we today call the Filibuster did not exist before 1872... and it did not get its name until some time later.

9 posted on 04/29/2005 3:50:53 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: RoseofTexas

Sometimes I rejoin just so I can quit again. I like to make those powerful statements! LOL


10 posted on 04/29/2005 3:50:53 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (Don't let them Bork Bolton!)
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To: Grand Old Partisan

And here's the mandatory faux-clueless post:

What's a GOP?


11 posted on 04/29/2005 3:52:55 PM PDT by whereasandsoforth (Stamp out liberals with the big boot of truth)
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To: Grand Old Partisan
BTTT!


12 posted on 04/29/2005 4:00:08 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: Blurblogger
This must rank as one of the most bizarre graphics I've ever seen on FR.

Mr. Fellini would be proud.

13 posted on 04/29/2005 4:03:51 PM PDT by zarf
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To: zarf

"Mr. Fellini would be proud."


But what about Barnum and Bailey? And the Ringling Brothers?
....or are they all Democrats! ;^)


14 posted on 04/29/2005 4:05:55 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: Grand Old Partisan

This is a great reminder of how valuable Free Republic is. People leave in a huff over this and that sometimes, but Freepers get things done!

Nice work.


15 posted on 04/29/2005 4:24:06 PM PDT by alnick (Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
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To: Grand Old Partisan

I strongly recommend "Back To Basics" for anyone interested in the true history of the Republican Party. Mike Zak does a tremendous and credible job in bringing out the civil rights successes of the party from the Emancipation Proclamation through the Civil Rights Act. The greatest political crime of the past 200 years has been the Democrat theft of this history!


16 posted on 04/29/2005 4:24:06 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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17 posted on 04/29/2005 4:28:09 PM PDT by mhking ("Today, we're gonna do things the RIGHT way...")
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To: mhking; Grand Old Partisan
You're gonna get something started around here, Partisan!

Good on you. I've used some of your work to both silence and shock people.


18 posted on 04/29/2005 4:35:49 PM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: Grand Old Partisan

bttt


19 posted on 04/29/2005 4:58:47 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (Prayers for Laura Ingraham and her family as she is treated for breast cancer. 4-26-05)
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To: Blurblogger
""Mr. Fellini would be proud." ...
But what about Barnum and Bailey? And the Ringling Brothers? ....or are they all Democrats! ;^)"

What about PETA?
(or did someone beat me to that one...?)

20 posted on 04/29/2005 5:01:56 PM PDT by norton (build a wall and post the rules at the gate)
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To: Grand Old Partisan
More history here (not for you, you already know it):

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Gold_Gupta_JLPP_article.pdf

highly recommended


21 posted on 04/29/2005 5:07:18 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Grand Old Partisan

Interesting read.


22 posted on 04/29/2005 5:09:21 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("REMEMBER WILLIAM CRUM!")
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To: Grand Old Partisan
Vice President Nixon tried to get the 1957 Civil Rights Act passed by bringing it directly to the Senate floor. Unfortunately, it was a Democratic Congress and the Republicans were outvoted.

It's getting harder and harder for the Dims to live in ignorance of their own history...

23 posted on 04/29/2005 5:10:27 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("REMEMBER WILLIAM CRUM!")
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To: Grand Old Partisan

Thanks for the post. I thought the moniker "nuclear option" referred to the childish tantrums the democrats were sure to throw once the Republicans restored order.


24 posted on 04/29/2005 5:12:17 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Common Tator
Why not just declare the senate rule unconstitutional
as it clearly is. A senate rule can not trump Article II
Section 2 paragraph 2. When not otherwise stated as in
the case of treaties a simple majority has always been
the default. The senate can make rules for themselves as
long as they do not conflict with the constitution. What
am I missing here?
25 posted on 04/29/2005 5:12:43 PM PDT by SAWTEX
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To: CAluvdubya

Frist's comments on the Senate floor weren't weak yesterday, but some on here want to rip him for trying to avert a complete shutdown of the Senate, which IS what will happen when we go nuclear.

His compromise, which I sense is his final offer (it dang well better be) is very good and strikes a good balance that all can support. But, if the Dems reject it, it is nuclear time, no matter what the consequences.


26 posted on 04/29/2005 5:13:15 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: SAWTEX
Why not just declare the senate rule unconstitutional as it clearly is. A senate rule can not trump Article II Section 2 paragraph 2. When not otherwise stated as in the case of treaties a simple majority has always been the default. The senate can make rules for themselves as long as they do not conflict with the constitution. What am I missing here?

The Sente has been dysfunctional on the point of unlimited debate and unanimous consent for quite awhile. They like being dysfunctional. The public lacks the wisdom to see it, and the will to make it stop.

27 posted on 04/29/2005 5:15:58 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Grand Old Partisan
Many people may recall my first posting this idea back in February 2003.

Oh, man and now we're never going to hear the end of it I guess :-)

28 posted on 04/29/2005 5:22:27 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Common Tator
It is certainly true that if V.P. Colfax had the power to make filibusters legal, then V.P. Cheney has the power to make them illegal. It was after all only a V.P.s ruling that made the filibuster legal. For over half a century before 1872 what we call the filibuster was illegal.

Good and interesting point. Did Michael Zak make the same point to Frist?

29 posted on 04/29/2005 5:29:10 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: rwfromkansas

I think his final-offer compromise is designed to ensure the 51st vote from weak-kneed Republican Senators.


30 posted on 04/29/2005 5:30:51 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: juggernaut
I quit too, and so did my fiance'....twice.

I'm trying to cut back, at least.

31 posted on 04/29/2005 7:47:54 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: Grand Old Partisan

BTTT


32 posted on 04/29/2005 8:19:58 PM PDT by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: rdb3; Grand Old Partisan
I've used some of your work to both silence and shock people

as have I... that and the racist history of gun-control in America. Tends to make leftists go into brain-cramps

33 posted on 04/29/2005 8:39:19 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: King Prout; rdb3

Yes, the first gun controls in the USA were enacted by Democrats to keep blacks unarmed.


34 posted on 04/30/2005 5:23:28 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan
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To: Grand Old Partisan

These are the Senators to call to help President Bush get a vote on his embattled judicial nominees:

Senator John McCain (R-AZ)

Washington, DC: (202) 224-2235
Phoenix, AZ: (602) 952-2410

Senator Lincoln Chafee (R-RI)
Washington, DC: (202) 224-2921
Providence, RI: (401) 453-5294

Senator Olympia Snowe (R-ME)

Washington, DC: (202) 224-5344
Augusta, ME: (207) 622-8292

Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE)

Washington, DC: (202) 224-4224
Omaha, NE: (402) 758-8981

Senator John Warner (R-VA)

Washington, DC: (202) 224-2023
Roanoke, VA: (540) 857-2676


35 posted on 04/30/2005 12:20:05 PM PDT by votelife (Elect a filibuster proof majority, 60 conservative US Senators!)
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To: rwfromkansas
Frist's comments on the Senate floor weren't weak yesterday, but some on here want to rip him for trying to avert a complete shutdown of the Senate, which IS what will happen when we go nuclear.

Let's go nuclear. I fail to see what the big deal is if they shut down the Senate? Even if the Repubs run it...SHUT IT DOWN !!! nothing good ever comes when the legislature is in session. More taxes silly prescription drug benefits more user fees more restrictions., and on and on.

Shut it down should be the mantra here

36 posted on 05/12/2005 8:49:12 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Kerry is a member of the Democratic Socialists of Amerika)
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