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Maine: Tourist dollars up as visits drop off
bangordailynews.com ^ | 4-30--05

Posted on 04/30/2005 9:26:46 AM PDT by SheLion

PORTLAND - Overnight visits by tourists to and within Maine were down last year, but revenues were up - and that spells trouble, Maine's top tourism official told a statewide meeting Friday. Dann Lewis, director of the state tourism office, warned the Governor's Conference on Tourism that the broad perception of Maine as a good buy for the travel dollar has collapsed. "The perception that Maine is a travel bargain has disappeared over the last five years," he said.

What the tourism industry calls the price-value ratio has been "out of balance" in recent years as innkeepers have raised rates, Lewis said. Spending on overnight accommodations was up 13 percent last year, compared with the previous year - even with a declining number of visits.

And beyond rates, owners of some hotels, motels, inns and campgrounds are failing to deliver a quality stay, Lewis said.

All that is occurring as consumers are becoming more travel savvy because of the ease with which they can do comparison shopping and research on the Web. So customers are better educated, more discerning and more demanding, he told the conference.

Lewis was blunt, but not everyone agreed completely with his analysis.

Greg Dugal, executive director of the Maine Innkeepers Association, said the visitation picture is more complicated than Lewis suggested. The area south of Portland has seen "decent increases," he said, while Portland has seen flat visitation numbers

The farther east a tourist travels, the worse the occupancy rates have been, he said.

The midcoast, Hancock County and Down East have seen drops of 8 percent and more, Dugal said.

Coastal properties' prices, which have escalated dramatically in recent years, help explain the "out of balance" price-value ratio, he said.

"Real estate is really driving room rates," Dugal said. Coastal inns are selling for prices double what they sold for five or 10 years ago. With that kind of an investment, innkeepers must raise their room rates, he said.

Dugal agreed with Lewis that the Web has made it more challenging to land out-of-state visitors. Would-be tourists in the Boston area know they can make last-minute reservations online. So they may check weather forecasts late in the week before committing to a trip north.

Or they compute the cost of their trip to Maine - including the gas - and compare it with trips elsewhere.

Delivering a quality visit to Maine was the theme of Friday's conference at Holiday Inn By-The-Bay.

Those in tourism businesses and those who work to promote the state as a destination stressed the importance of being polite to visitors, providing them with the information they need to have an enjoyable stay - even when that means cooperating with businesses that may be seen as competitors - and working to create festivals and events in host communities.

Providing that quality is not necessarily easy but is one step the industry can take to counteract the declining numbers, Lewis argued.

Another step is to have the resources available to effectively market Maine.

The current "woefully inadequate" level of resources, Lewis said, "restrict us to being a minor player in the Northeast region."

In past years, tourism industry advocates have argued for increasing lodging and meal taxes to create more state revenue for advertising Maine in Northeast media markets.

On Friday, Economic and Community Development Commissioner Jack Cashman boasted to the conference that there were no such tax increases this year. He was applauded - but only when he prompted the audience to clap.

Still, the innkeepers who know how to effectively market their region and their accommodations are doing OK, Dugal said, even in a poor season.

Innkeepers need to focus on the basics, he said, citing statistics from the state's tourism site that show 38 percent of visitors are interested in sightseeing activities, contrary to the adventure-based tourism that some speakers at the conference touted.

Lewis and Jeff Sosnaud, deputy director of the tourism office, have high hopes for creating the Center for Tourism Research and Outreach as a tool to gather data about the industry and its role in Maine and to prepare would-be tourism entrepreneurs and employees.

The initiative, to be launched in conjunction with the University of Maine System, is one of just a few spending initiatives in Gov. John Baldacci's budget, Sosnaud said. He urged those in the industry to attend upcoming legislative hearings to support the proposal.

Lewis also unveiled this year's TV and print advertisements for Maine, which will be shown nationally.

The 30-second TV spot, continuing the "It must be Maine" theme used in recent years, shows a lighthouse, kayaking, an art museum, a lobster bake on a beach, a man lying in a hammock lakeside, and a moose.

Tourism by the numbers:

In 2004, Maine tourism generated:

$9.4 billion in goods and services

122,000 jobs

$2.6 billion in total payroll

$384 million in state and local taxes

In 2004, there were 43.8 million overnight and day trips in and to Maine.

Those coming to Maine from other states come from:

Massachusetts (38 percent)

New Hampshire (8 percent)

New York (7 percent)

Connecticut (6 percent)

Pennsylvania (5 percent)

California (5 percent)

Rhode Island (4 percent)

New Jersey (4 percent)

The Web effect:

40 percent of advance bookings were made via the Internet (46 percent is national norm)

In 1997, just 7 percent of travelers used the Web to plan their vacation trips; in 2004, that grew to 37 percent


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Maine
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I don't care how they spin it!  When 25-30% of the tourist smoke, and word got out that Maine was forced to go smoke-free, tourists will take their money to another smoker friendly state!

A tourist can no longer have a cigarette in a restaurant, bar, nightclub, sports inn, tavern, bowling alley in the state of Maine.

The economist are nuts if they think this has nothing to do with the revenue. 

Partnership For A Tobacco Free Maine is choking the economy!  Like it or not!

1 posted on 04/30/2005 9:26:50 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; MeeknMing; steve50; KS Flyover; Cantiloper; metesky; kattracks; ..

Maine Ping


2 posted on 04/30/2005 9:27:29 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

Been to Maine and will never be going back. I don't have anything in common with any NE states.


3 posted on 04/30/2005 9:36:33 AM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: jec41; SheLion
You where there at the wrong time of the year there is nothing better when it is -20 degrees F, no wind blowing and 10 inches of fresh snow and now where to go but get the paper.

Start designing the house this AM

4 posted on 04/30/2005 9:41:37 AM PDT by dts32041 (Two words that shouldn't be used in the same sentence Grizzly bear and violate.)
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To: SheLion

I have been to Maine a couple of times and it is a nice state...but it stinks...smells like a rotten egg fart in a lot of the rural areas due to nasty factories...and the root beer looking water in Augusta is the grossest thing I have ever seen..Granted there are some really nice places. But I'll take the smell of good old cow manure over the stench I smelled there...They have taken care of inside air pollution...maybe they should consider cleaning up outside air as well.


5 posted on 04/30/2005 9:42:16 AM PDT by leenie312
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To: jec41
Been to Maine and will never be going back. I don't have anything in common with any NE states.

It's your time and your dime.  You have to go to a place where you are comfortable.  Why spend your money on a vacation that you hate?  I don't blame you.

6 posted on 04/30/2005 9:43:46 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: leenie312

You must have stayed near a paper mill.


7 posted on 04/30/2005 9:46:21 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.And we're unlikely to get a look into this t)
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To: dts32041
You where there at the wrong time of the year there is nothing better when it is -20 degrees F, no wind blowing and 10 inches of fresh snow and now where to go but get the paper.

Chill Brrrrrrrrrrrrr

hehheh!


8 posted on 04/30/2005 9:46:22 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: leenie312
They have taken care of inside air pollution...maybe they should consider cleaning up outside air as well.

If the Rats in Maine take care of anything else, they may as well give us back to Canada.

9 posted on 04/30/2005 9:47:40 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

An old man had lived his whole life in a small cabin on the Maine and New Hampshire border. A survey had just been completed and he was informed that he actually did not live in Maine, but rather in New Hampshire. His response was, "Thank goodness! I don’t think I could endure another Maine winter."


10 posted on 04/30/2005 9:48:48 AM PDT by cowtowney
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To: SheLion
Yep come to Maine and let us be your Nanny for your tourest dollars. Tax em, bore em, and control em they will like us.. Not.
11 posted on 04/30/2005 9:50:09 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.And we're unlikely to get a look into this t)
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To: cowtowney
An old man had lived his whole life in a small cabin on the Maine and New Hampshire border. A survey had just been completed and he was informed that he actually did not live in Maine, but rather in New Hampshire. His response was, "Thank goodness! I don’t think I could endure another Maine winter."

Oh! LOL!

12 posted on 04/30/2005 9:51:27 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion
Maine is in Canada right?

/lights up

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

13 posted on 04/30/2005 9:54:06 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: armymarinemom
Yep come to Maine and let us be your Nanny for your tourest dollars. Tax em, bore em, and control em they will like us.. Not.

Maine: Baldacci to put own plan on list of tax overhaul proposals ~ Look Out!

Stick it to the tourist this year between May and October.  Pass the word!

Stick it to our tourist again!  Can't smoke in Maine plus their vacations in this state will cost even more with taxes.

May through October is STICK IT TO THE TOURIST AGAIN season!

Thank you Rep. Sean Faircloth, D-Bangor!  You are such a RAT!

Rep. Sean Faircloth, D-Bangor, suggests hiking taxes on beer, wine, bar drinks and cigarettes, boosting the meals and lodging tax during the months of May through October, establishing a soft drinks tax and raising the income level at which the highest marginal rate would apply.

Or this idiot's statement:

Rep. John Eder, a Green party lawmaker from Portland, would apply the sales tax to tourism-related categories and direct new revenue toward targeted property tax relief.


14 posted on 04/30/2005 9:55:08 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: expatguy

Nice blog! :)


15 posted on 04/30/2005 9:56:15 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion
When 25-30% of the tourist smoke, and word got out that Maine was forced to go smoke-free, tourists will take their money to another smoker friendly state!

Or province. Maine's coast is like the Riviera for Quebeckers--their kids actually go in the ocean. And those people smoke like chimneys.
16 posted on 04/30/2005 9:58:01 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: HostileTerritory
Or province. Maine's coast is like the Riviera for Quebeckers--their kids actually go in the ocean. And those people smoke like chimneys.

Well, so far they are safe.  They can still smoke outside.  Maine sure is state run!  :(

17 posted on 04/30/2005 9:59:46 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: armymarinemom; SheLion
You must have stayed near a paper mill.

Yep, or a tanning mill like I was near when I attended St. Francis College in Biddeford. Wonder if it's still there.

FMCDH(BITS)

18 posted on 04/30/2005 10:01:05 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: SheLion
Hey the flat-landers have to pay for something don't they, how do they expect LL Bean and tom's toothpaste to keep for MPR and MPTV?
19 posted on 04/30/2005 10:01:18 AM PDT by dts32041 (Two words that shouldn't be used in the same sentence Grizzly bear and violate.)
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To: SheLion
Well, Maine has arguably the highest tax burden *in the country*. The Dims have been excusing that by saying that it is mostly out-of-staters that are bearing the brunt of that - with sales tax, meals tax and high property taxes on waterfront vacation homes.

Well, that argument doesn't sound too good now!
20 posted on 04/30/2005 10:05:10 AM PDT by Fido969 (God? I'm not quite sure of what God is. I know what God isn't. God isn't me.)
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To: SheLion
Muchas Gracias!

Stop by more often!

21 posted on 04/30/2005 10:06:39 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: SheLion

I stayed in Rockland for a few nights at a hotel and I couldn't believe the accomadations. Hotel was remodeled on to a remodel to another remodel. The hotel was like a maze. I'm sure the city inspector was bought and paid for. Typical communist run gov.


22 posted on 04/30/2005 10:08:17 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (A kid in the front seat causes accidents, an accident in the rear seat causes kids!)
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To: Fido969
Well, Maine has arguably the highest tax burden *in the country*. The Dims have been excusing that by saying that it is mostly out-of-staters that are bearing the brunt of that - with sales tax, meals tax and high property taxes on waterfront vacation homes.

Well, that argument doesn't sound too good now!

That's a bunch of bull.  Tourist aren't here year round.  Those of us that live here year round are paying our taxes!  What the tourist pay we pay all year around.

Now the Dems in Maine want to raise the taxes between May and October to further grab hold of the tourist dollar.

Talk about a bunch of gluttons.  And they wonder why revenue is down.

They want to raise the taxes between May and October hoping that will make up for the loss of revenue!


23 posted on 04/30/2005 10:10:00 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

And it was expensive!


24 posted on 04/30/2005 10:10:04 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (A kid in the front seat causes accidents, an accident in the rear seat causes kids!)
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To: US_MilitaryRules
I stayed in Rockland for a few nights at a hotel and I couldn't believe the accomadations. Hotel was remodeled on to a remodel to another remodel. The hotel was like a maze. I'm sure the city inspector was bought and paid for. Typical communist run gov.

I believe it. 

They say that there are two Maine's.  North and south.  Down in southern Maine by the ocean, everything seems to be higher in cost.  Up north, the pay check isn't as big, but commodities are high.

Of course, we don't have the ocean either.

25 posted on 04/30/2005 10:12:18 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

Another thing that is going to hurt Maine is the shutdown of Scotia Prince cruises. They cancelled the 2005 season after a dispute with Portland over the port terminal's chronic toxic mold situation. Big hit to Maine and Canada's economies.


26 posted on 04/30/2005 10:16:04 AM PDT by renosathug
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To: renosathug

They're shutting down the Scotia Prince services? That's really too bad. I used to take that boat up to Yarmouth Nova Scotia to visit my grandparents. It was a lovely ride.


27 posted on 04/30/2005 10:32:40 AM PDT by Beaker
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To: SheLion

Perhaps all those Somali scumbags they imported up there scared tourists away.


28 posted on 04/30/2005 10:33:44 AM PDT by montag813
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To: US_MilitaryRules
Was it the TradeWinds overlooking Rockland Harbor, by any chance??
29 posted on 04/30/2005 10:38:10 AM PDT by Jackson Brown
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To: leenie312; jec41
I have been to Maine a couple of times and it is a nice state...but it stinks...smells like a rotten egg fart

You people are nuts. Mt. Katadin in one of the most fantastically beautiful mountains/parks in the world. The end of the Appalacian trail, the peak is the first point in the Western Hemisphere that the sun touches every morning when it rises. And the Maine coast? Kennebunkport et al. Gorgeous.

30 posted on 04/30/2005 10:38:32 AM PDT by montag813
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To: SheLion

Isn't Maine the place where pets come to back to life when buried in a special cemetary only to turn on their owners,vampires taking over entire towns, and rabid St benards running around loose?No wonder you don't have many tourist.Or am I just reading too many Steven King novels?


31 posted on 04/30/2005 10:43:01 AM PDT by Uncle Meat
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To: SheLion

When I was a child, my divorced father took me up to his girlfriend's place in Maine during what they laughably refer to as a "summer".

I don't think it ever got above 60.

It was fun tooling around in the small powerboat he bought me, but I certainly would not voluntarily return -- I'd rather visit someplace with pleasant weather, sorry :-(.

D


32 posted on 04/30/2005 10:45:17 AM PDT by daviddennis (;)
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To: SheLion
.... stressed the importance of being polite to visitors...

The Mainers flunked this lesson, except those around Bar Harbor who are polite.

33 posted on 04/30/2005 11:11:37 AM PDT by Founding Father (A proud "vigilante." My money goes to support Minutemen, not Republicans.)
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To: renosathug
Another thing that is going to hurt Maine is the shutdown of Scotia Prince cruises. They cancelled the 2005 season after a dispute with Portland over the port terminal's chronic toxic mold situation. Big hit to Maine and Canada's economies.

No kidding!  I hadn't heard that.  That sure will plug up the revenue right there.  Pity.

34 posted on 04/30/2005 11:24:12 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: montag813
Perhaps all those Somali scumbags they imported up there scared tourists away.

Yep.  They are in Lewiston and Lewiston is close to Portland.


35 posted on 04/30/2005 11:25:20 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Uncle Meat

Isn't Maine the place where pets come to back to life when buried in a special cemetary only to turn on their owners,vampires taking over entire towns, and rabid St benards running around loose?No wonder you don't have many tourist.Or am I just reading too many Steven King novels?

Yes.  "The Pet Cemetery."  LOL!  You betcha!  :)


36 posted on 04/30/2005 11:26:51 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: daviddennis
I don't think it ever got above 60.

It was fun tooling around in the small powerboat he bought me, but I certainly would not voluntarily return -- I'd rather visit someplace with pleasant weather, sorry :-(.

Oh no.  That must have been the summer of 86.  It rained that whole summer and never got above 60-65.  Cold and depressing.  It was only our third year up here and it really stressed me out. 

But the summers are really beautiful.  Actually, when it goes up to 85, we are dying up here.  No one invests in a/c because we don't need it.  But when it really gets hot, it is so miserable.

37 posted on 04/30/2005 11:29:07 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Founding Father
The Mainers flunked this lesson, except those around Bar Harbor who are polite.

Well, I am way north, so I don't know how the hospitality is down south.

38 posted on 04/30/2005 11:30:17 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: jec41
Been to Maine and will never be going back.

Me too. Got a ticket not 5 miles into the state. Apparently the first sign that reads "Left lane for passing only" doesn't appear til the 10 mile marker.
39 posted on 04/30/2005 11:31:54 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: SheLion
You're right SheLion! Smokers will go to where they can enjoy a cigarette after their meals, or at least to accommodations that still have smoking and non smoking rooms. Most from this area are going south, and the majority of them, scouting for possible moving destinations. As the NE gets more and more socialist and Liberal, more and more are moving out.

Maine needs to be concerned, as does CT now, that they will join MA in having negative growth numbers next year. The people they are losing are middle class, and businesses! Businesses are not going to, if there is another place they don't have to, stay where they have to pay exorbitant taxes, and cover same sex couples with insurance. That's just the reality.
40 posted on 04/30/2005 11:39:35 AM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: SheLion

It's really a shame, Arcadia and the surrounding area are is gorgeous!


41 posted on 04/30/2005 11:44:13 AM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: SheLion

Sadly the whole NE is known for being cold, and not just the weather. People down south are much warmer, much more pleasant. And I say that having been born and raised and living in the NE.


42 posted on 04/30/2005 11:50:32 AM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: SheLion
My wife and I have vacationed in Maine. We love it there and can't wait until our next trip up there.

I've never heard of anyone scheduling a vacation around the smoking rules. That's just nuts.

43 posted on 04/30/2005 11:52:36 AM PDT by CheezyD
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To: SheLion
Average folks in Maine are getting killed with property taxes. There are quite a few people in the state who own a considerable amount of land but do not have a considerable income. These people suffer the tax burden as best they can but many times end up having to sell land which has been in their family for generations.
I lived in Maine for some time ago and have relatives in the state. Those Winters were unforgettable. They never seemed to end. Then there was Black Fly season - that was real fun!
I hear that Maine is once again putting the Same Sex Marriage nonsense up for vote yet again. That state has changed so much in the last 20 years. Its a real shame.
44 posted on 04/30/2005 11:57:32 AM PDT by warsaw44
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To: warsaw44

Not same-sex marriage. I think it's an anti-discrimination bill.


45 posted on 04/30/2005 12:10:09 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: gidget7
Maine needs to be concerned, as does CT now, that they will join MA in having negative growth numbers next year. The people they are losing are middle class, and businesses! Businesses are not going to, if there is another place they don't have to, stay where they have to pay exorbitant taxes, and cover same sex couples with insurance. That's just the reality.

That's just the reality!  And if anyone thinks for one minute that a cut-back in revenue by 25-30% isn't going to hurt, they have another thought coming.  The smoking bans are choking the economy.

If a group vacations and travels together, and one or two couples smoke, the non-smoking friends will stay with the smoking friends just the same.  So, instead of Maine losing one couple, they will lose 3-4 couples who all vacation together.

46 posted on 04/30/2005 12:20:37 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: gidget7
It's really a shame, Arcadia and the surrounding area are is gorgeous!

Maine is a gorgeous state.  Even Baxter State Park!!

Oh yes, no smoking in the Maine Casino's either.  I forgot about the Casino(s).

47 posted on 04/30/2005 12:22:20 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: maine-iac7

ping


48 posted on 04/30/2005 12:23:11 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: gidget7
Sadly the whole NE is known for being cold, and not just the weather. People down south are much warmer, much more pleasant. And I say that having been born and raised and living in the NE.

You know why, don't you?  All of New England is LIBS!  ack!

49 posted on 04/30/2005 12:23:28 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: CheezyD
I've never heard of anyone scheduling a vacation around the smoking rules. That's just nuts.

Nuts?  I can tell you never smoked.  Well, it's our time and our dime and we won't be spending our money in a state that won't accommodate us.

You must think we are total losers if that's the case.

Why oh why would we want to pay for that personal abuse?  Huh?

50 posted on 04/30/2005 12:25:32 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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