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Secret gay encounters of black men could be raising women's infection rate
SFGATE ^ | 1 May 2005 | Jason B. Johnson

Posted on 05/01/2005 9:04:33 AM PDT by csvset

Health officials have worried for years about the high rate of HIV among African Americans. Now the federal Centers for Disease Control is examining how one group, known as men on the "down low," could be spreading the disease among black women.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aids; bisexual; blackmales; blackwomen; downlow; gay; hiv; homosexuals; nobodyhas2know; riskybehavior; sex; wtfover
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To: riri

"Of course they want you to believe there is this large,unknown percentage of gay black men to further their claims that a huge chunk of us are gay."Did we read the same article?I think the point is that gay AA males are less likely to admit being gay,because there is a greater stigma attached to being homosexual in the AA community.I would assume the percentage of homosexuality amongst AA males is the same as other ethnic groups.BTW what is your def of a "huge chunk"?


21 posted on 05/01/2005 10:06:12 AM PDT by thombo
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To: org.whodat; jocon307; No Longer Free State

I used to live in the French Quarter in New Orleans in the '70's and I worked and lived in downtown Seattle in the '80's. Both places had large populations of black gay males & transvestite prostitutes.


23 posted on 05/01/2005 10:23:33 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: csvset

I always wanted a chance to state the obvious to a Forrest Gump-size crowd on the Mall in Washington:

Yes, AIDS is a punishment from God!
Yes, its a "bad person's" disease.
Yes, it is 100% preventable.
Yes, It is a sex disease.
Yes, It spilled over into the general population, but not much.
Yes, it won't go away until homosexuals stop the sexual practice of having anal sex.
Yes, homosexuals are completely to blame for AIDS in the first place and it's continuation.
Yes, political correctness and politic have allowed AIDS to kill more people than it ever should have.

Then I'd run like hell!


24 posted on 05/01/2005 10:24:10 AM PDT by whereasandsoforth (Stamp out liberals with the big boot of truth)
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To: No Longer Free State

LOL! I remember that joke!

I think the fellow I quoted was trying to make a point about transmission of HIV/AIDS to women, specifically black women; since the theory is that there is this underworld of unacknowledged black bi-sexual men.


25 posted on 05/01/2005 10:35:58 AM PDT by jocon307 (dang, I lost my tagline, again!)
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To: whereasandsoforth

I never liked how AIDS victims have been held up like heros of battle.

These people spread a deadly disease through perverse sexual contact. This may have even begun with animal/human sex in Africa.

Until we accept that homosexual sex is perverse and unhealthy this disease will continue to be the badge of honor of homosexual "victims."


26 posted on 05/01/2005 10:38:02 AM PDT by Conservatrix (He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: csvset

There was a gay black man who wrote a book on the subject. What happens is that gay black men are not accepted by other blacks, so they stay in the closet. But to keep up appearances, they must be known to sleep with women. So you have all these HIV+ gay black men making the rounds of the black women in order to avoid suspicion


27 posted on 05/01/2005 10:43:15 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (What does the wolf care how many sheep there be?)
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To: IRememberElian
What's the rate of IV drug use in these groups?

I'd also like to know but couldn't find any numbers but there is this FR thread from last year.

Though new cases of H.I.V. among black women have been stable in the past few years, the number of those who have been infected through heterosexual sex has risen.

In 2001, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation, a nonprofit group focusing on health issues, an estimated 67 percent of black women with AIDS contracted the virus through heterosexual sex, compared with 58 percent four years earlier. Black women accounted for half of all H.I.V. infections acquired through heterosexual sex, in men or women, from 1999 to 2002

AIDS Fears Grow for Black Women

I assume those not infected via heterosexual sex are from drug use.

28 posted on 05/01/2005 10:53:09 AM PDT by Aaron0617
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To: kennedy6979

History has recorded that this behavior is unwholesome and disease prone. Homosexuals have no self control. When they discover each other and decide to have sex, its like their sexual drive is sooo pent up. They are a sexual culture of I can not wait. Second it is an insatiable sexual drive. They don't seem satisfied (I think they do not seem to know that sexual emotional climax with the opposite sex is different from one with the same sex). It is like they are trying to find something to quench their drive. Multiple partners and I want it now (to the hell with waiting for a condom) mentality is killing them. Otherwise how can one explain after all the health info on HIV/STD is public knowledge, STD is on the rise in the gay community. My answer is study historical info on gay society. This is not a new phenomena. You will see the same lack of control. inability to be sexually satisfied and death by STD of that period. Ironic, we teach our kids not to smoke or drink alcohol based on historical medical data, and yet the gay lifestyle has the same problem, and schools want to elevate it as another form of normal behavior that children should sexually consider.


29 posted on 05/01/2005 10:53:46 AM PDT by Fee (Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping, for your information.

Simple cure. Traditional morality saves lives, saves marriages, saves children.

Sex in marriage only works every time it's tried. And the funny thing, people are happier that way. Promiscuity and sexual perversions don't make people happy - despite the theft of the word "gay".

Let me know if you want on/off this pinglist.


30 posted on 05/01/2005 10:58:46 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: csvset
If one must blame a politician, blame Henry Waxman. He blocked the closing of the bath houses (CA) when public health officials recommended doing so. (The epidemiology of the spread was known before the agent was.)
31 posted on 05/01/2005 10:59:24 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: No Longer Free State

The 80's joke I recall was:

Q. What's the toughest part about finding out you have AIDS?
A. Trying to convince your mother you're Hatian.


33 posted on 05/01/2005 11:42:37 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: csvset

Is saying gay black men are spreading aids racist or homophobic ?

Which label trumps which ?


34 posted on 05/01/2005 12:06:22 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: IRememberElian

Quite frankly, I don't even want to know.


35 posted on 05/01/2005 12:12:09 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: jocon307
...If these men were the bridge, then why didn't this happen in the '80s?"

Remember Magic Johnson?

36 posted on 05/01/2005 12:12:31 PM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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To: kennedy6979
It's stupidity that causes the spread. For the past 20 yrs. there has been more $ thrown at HIV education and how it's transmitted that if someone gets infected now it's either deliberate (in which case prosecute) or plain old stupidity (knowing/aware of the risks but do not take proper precautions).

Mostly stupidity, but also vindictivness.

I knew somone (since died) who got aids in the 80's through a blood transfusion.

His hatred of gays for intentionally poisioning the blood supply was deep.

Alot of gay groups, for their stupid political cause, were encouraging their members to donate blood and lie (this included people with AIDS and HIV) before proper screening came in.

What those people did is the most evil and vile and sickening acts and crimes against humanity.

Thats part of how we got a crossover into the general population.

37 posted on 05/01/2005 12:12:36 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M

"Alot of gay groups, for their stupid political cause, were encouraging their members to donate blood and lie..."

I have absolutely never heard of such a thing. Can you provide a cite for this?


38 posted on 05/01/2005 12:16:51 PM PDT by jocon307 (dang, I lost my tagline, again!)
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To: Sonny M

Alot of gay groups, for their stupid political cause, were encouraging their members to donate blood and lie (this included people with AIDS and HIV) before proper screening came in.
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You are being ridiculous.


39 posted on 05/01/2005 12:20:05 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/foundingoftheunitedstates.htm)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

Every inidividual is an individual, Wally. I've had enough in my life of segregation, of racial stereotyping. I grew up in a segregated America -- it sucks. I like to take each person for what he or she is, individually.


40 posted on 05/01/2005 12:26:33 PM PDT by bvw
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