Skip to comments.Debunking a spitting image - (says Viet Vets never spat upon when they returned to USA!)
Posted on 05/01/2005 8:53:50 PM PDT by CHARLITE
STORIES ABOUT spat-upon Vietnam veterans are like mercury: Smash one and six more appear. It's hard to say where they come from. For a book I wrote in 1998 I looked back to the time when the spit was supposedly flying, the late 1960s and early 1970s. I found nothing. No news reports or even claims that someone was being spat on.
What I did find is that around 1980, scores of Vietnam-generation men were saying they were greeted by spitters when they came home from Vietnam. There is an element of urban legend in the stories in that their point of origin in time and place is obscure, and, yet, they have very similar details. The story told by the man who spat on Jane Fonda at a book signing in Kansas City recently is typical. Michael Smith said he came back through Los Angeles airport where ''people were lined up to spit on us."
Like many stories of the spat-upon veteran genre, Smith's lacks credulity. GIs landed at military airbases, not civilian airports, and protesters could not have gotten onto the bases and anywhere near deplaning troops.
(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...
I like the cut of your jib, Mister.
We should match their denial with our own.
Example: Drill in Alaska. After all, the Exxon Valdez was an urban legend that never happened!
Without the picture it would be explained away as such.
DIANE RODHAM (Hillary)
...and a Democrat-Controlled U.S. Congress that cut off all weapons funding for the South Vietnamese people to fight for their own Freedom with...
...all brought this upon the once Free People of South Vietnam:
Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp
I just found out that these horrific black and white Vietnamese Re-Education Camp Pictures posted on the above December 2004 Freerepublic thread are actually from a stunning new Vietnamese-American Motion Picture completed in October 2004 about the human aftermath of the 1975 Fall of Saigon titled:
.."JOURNEY from the FALL"
(They Lost Everything but Hope)
Saturday night I was blessed to attend a Little Saigon Preview of this 2nd coming of "The PASSION of the CHRIST" Motion Picture in the town I grew up in and then left for the 1st Major Battles of the Vietnam War ..and back, Garden Grove CA.
Imagine my surprise in suddenly seeing these Pictures in front of me in full color, widescreen and full Stereo sound..? The human suffering I then experienced was unforgettable.
Before America can fully come to terms with its new Time of War in a new century, it must first come to terms with its abandoning the Free in the last and with those who fooled us here into doing so.
All that's needed now is a "JOURNEY" Movie Distributor for this message to get out there, but then didn't even MEL GIBSON have a problem finding one for his own "PASSION"..?
Enter:.. JOURNEY from the Fall ..on:
And then NEVER FORGET
Well, great minds DO think alike, dontcha know.
Llewellyn wrote that our society values the sacrifices of servicemembers. But when he said "OUR society", he implied he and I are part of the same society, and there isn't only one.
We belong to the same structure of tax collection, representative govt (well, kinda- I live in MA, where the Supreme Judicial Court rules by fiat), and trial by jury.
But society is more than the shared rules we live under. What we value, spiritually and ethically, and how we communicate those values to others is the greater measure of what "society" means.
And with that in mind, I can say with little doubt that Professor Llewellyn and I are NOT part of the same society.
But don't get me wrong: I'm not any kind of martyr, survivalist, Jesus-freak, war hero, or big-time vets activist; I'm not even a Republican. I'm not pushing an agenda or trying to make converts.
It just puts a burr up my ass when people talk sh*t about veterans, and doubly so if the sh*t talker is so far removed from standing a watch.
Sorry for the rant.
He doesn't care about facts.
He cares about the Revolution.
Unfortunately it took the "discredited" Talon News to make this a nationally known issue at a press conference, and even then the Boston Globe ignored the White House statement on these photos and chose to run with them in an election year.
The nature of the exchange was something like, "have these discredited porn photos caused us any problems and will the US embassy in Egypt be pushing for a retraction from the Middle Eastern media?"
Corbis won't permit FR to show this image even from other sites servers. Somehow I doubt that Strangecosmos or Snopes paid Corbis.
Returning from Vietnam, I landed at Anchorage International and then at San Francisco International, in uniform, and I did not see any problems whatsoever.
When I left for Vietnam, we were warned not to wear our uniforms into San Francisco, but four of us did anyway. We were treated like kings by the good people there who wanted to buy us drinks and food.
Listen, I let it go thirty years ago. LOL
The problem is that many didn't and haven't.
But I appreciate the thought.
i did NOT get spit on but i did get HIT by flying debris. rotten eggs/fruit and some things that were "recycled food".
I am proud to say that I never knew a single Air Force guy who got spit on during that time frame, and I used to know a lot of them back in Las Vegas where Nellis AFB is.
It hurts my very soul that you and others did have that happen to you though.
The BIG consolation you heroes have is that you know that the American People didn't feel like that towards you. Only the cowards and traitors like Jane Fonda and her ilk.
Thanks, for what you did for us. We appreciate you. And that's a TRUE STORY!
I suggest that you get busy apologizing to our veterans, before they make the choice for you.
And that ain't gonna be no myth. :P
This article will boil your blood.
I was spit on in SF International Airport, in March 1967,. after coming home from my first tour.
You came into Travis and had to wear your uniform in order to get military standby, at SFIA.
It was 3 AM and I brought some hurt on the guy, hippies fought like girls. The rookie cop at the concourse had just got out of the Marines, so their was no trouble.
When I got back from my second tour in '68 I was in Chelsea Naval Hospital. To correct some misnomers about Boston, I never paid for a drink while in uniform outside of the College areas. Eastern Mass had very many people serving, especally Marines, the same holds true today, and per capita one of the highest casuality rates in the VN conflict.
I took more shit from Korean and WW2 vets, when I joined the VFW, not a real war, than I did in any of the neighborhoods of Boston,
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