For example:
Posted on 05/02/2005 7:25:14 AM PDT by worldclass
Noting that in his Good Friday homily soon-to-be pope Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger condemned the "filth there is in the church," Wheeler believes the pontiff "will not tolerate [homosexuality's] presence in his church."
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Great news.
I hope this is truly what is going to happen and not some lazy reporter just half arsing a story. Some diocese' in the American Catholic Church are completely run and owned by active homosexuals.... it is like a YMCA fraternity.. Rome must PURGE this blackness from the church... I hope that this is going to come to pass.
Most lay Catholics have no idea how infiltrated and corrupted some of these diocese are.
Believe it or not the moves in the Catholic Church will help stiffen the conservative Protestants and their churches who are also under assault by the homosexuals as well!
If you actually read the full article, you will see that it sort of takes away from the idea of John Paul the Great.
Which perhaps is reasonable.
John Paul II did wonders for the Church, but he also willfully blinded himself to the fact that homosexuals were taking over key positions in the Church.
He simply could not imagine that bishops and rectors of seminaries were active homosexuals.
His episcopal appointments, Mahoney especially, have led to the destruction of the Church in America.
I for one will not miss John Paul in this regard.
Of course its homosexuality.. its not Pedophilia. If it were Pedophilia, first off the victims would not be 12 to 17.. they'd be much younger... and secondly if it was purely pedophilia there would be female victims as well... Priests have access to young girls even more so now than ever in the past.
Talk is cheap.
I'll be impressed when I see some ACTION coming out of the Vatican to address this.
If that's the case the Catholic church might as well disband the Jesuits.
It is great news. Now, we have to see how hard Satan will fight back.
I read today how our local "motorcycle" priest is being retired by our new Bishop. It is past time for these heterodox shepherds to leave. Disagreement can be productive in some cases, but not with the hubris and sheer arrogance evinced by most.
Good luck digging them out. But don't count on much success.
Although, John Paul perhaps had reasons to deny the homosexualization of the Church.
He was such a strong, heterosexual man, who had no experience with homosexuals.
From the article,
"Whenever Vatican investigators brought the results of their vetting process regarding an individual's candidacy for bishop, cardinal or other office, and they revealed he was a homosexual, John Paul II would refuse to believe it," he writes.
"He did so because accusing someone of homosexuality was a standard practice of the Communist government in his native Poland regarding anyone it regarded as an enemy of the state. From his ordination as a Catholic priest in 1946 to elevation to Archbishop of Krakow in 1963 and Cardinal in 1967, the then Karol Wojtyla witnessed this personal destruction repeatedly. So traumatized, he summarily dismissed such accusations as pope, and would approve the elevation of anyone so accused. "
Wheeler says that's why the church is "riddled" with homosexuals today.
To destroy the Velvet Mafia a lot of heads are going to have to roll. Good.
History will say that the greatest stain upon the record of Pope John Paul II was how under his watch the Velvet Mafia was allowed to foment a scandal of such proportions that the moral voice of the American Catholic church has been deeply wounded.
I pray you are right, the demonstrations at the Southern Baptist Convention have gotten to be a real distraction.
The bottom line is that these perverts have made their bodies the object of worship, it's an idol just like anything else that gets in the way of the Almighty and the singular worship he deserves.
It's not so much of a joke as you might think. As of this past Sunday, our parish now says the Pater Noster in Latin as well as the Credo, plus the Kyrie in Greek!
This information, as sad as it is, needs to be exposed to show that it is the root cause of the many scandals in the Church. Depending on the severity of the crime, the scandalous priests and religious should be either defrocked and prosecuted or be made to enter a remote monastery to do penance for the rest of their lives. If the latter option is decided upon, these priests or religious should never again be allowed to minister.
For real?! (LOL...I'm getting nervous for you taking on the Jesuits!)
You combine that with the natural reluctance of the Vatican to interfere in "internal" matters in the U.S. -- because of the longstanding tradition of nativist, anti-Catholic agitation (just look at poor Al Smith, and how hard JFK had to work to overcome it even in the 60s) -- and it goes a long way to explain why something wasn't done a whole lot earlier to weed these guys out.
IIRC, Ratzinger began taking charge of these cases in 2002. Hopefully he will take a harder line, even if the anti-Catholics whine about "interference from a foreign potentate" etc. etc.
It was really great.
The cool thing about Bendict XVI is that he knows where the bodies are buried.
JP II spent his entire life in Poland, where his entire pastoral struggle was against communism.
Thus, he tended to trust the Church in the West.
Benedict on the other hand has for more than twenty years recieved complaints and documents concerning AMChurch etc...
He knows what the real deal is.
Hope he does the right thing.
Excellent point!
That was Father Corapi, he is about the best Catholic preacher in America today.
The anti-catholic bend of the past is long gone.
If anything, i expect to see "resignations" which were encouraged by the church officials.
The homosexuals will not go easily.
"This was posted earlier "
So sorry...I hate to doublepost. I actually checked the article title and got no results. But I now realize that I had accidentally set the search to "by poster"...carelessness on my part.
I'm one conservative Protestant who certainly hopes so!
As unpleasant as the topic is to think about, there is a logic to your post. From what I have heard of pedophilia there is indeeda concept of a child being "too old" while till a child. And I have frequently wondered why we never hear of girls being abused.
Whatever it is, or is called, of course it has to be rooted out.
But knowing and naming the problem also helps make sure the correct tools are used to fight it.
Children are at stake. That's the important thing.
They should've done that years ago. Jezzies are mostly apostate, liberation theology-pushing, leftwing kooks!
" He did so because accusing someone of homosexuality was a standard practice of the Communist government in his native Poland regarding anyone it regarded as an enemy of the state. From his ordination as a Catholic priest in 1946 to elevation to Archbishop of Krakow in 1963 and Cardinal in 1967, the then Karol Wojtyla witnessed this personal destruction repeatedly. So traumatized, he summarily dismissed such accusations as pope, and would approve the elevation of anyone so accused."
I can understand John Paul's denial. I had not idea that such practices existed until I went to art college in 1973 and so the just 'coming out' gay population of Philadelphia parading down 15th street. Even so, I still am completely appalled at what the whole perversion involves. I went on to go to a school in Berkeley where I took a print class where I turned out to be the only 'straight' person enrolled, I got along fine, and I guess that the subject never came up because in many ways, because sexuality is not my normal venue for relating to others they didn't bring the subject up ~ until I saw their worked printed.
There I am in a secular world, and Papa John Paul was always surrounded by people like himself, who were working to do the best thing possible, or fighting against the evil guys, who also agreed that homosexuality was a terrible perversion.
Amen! He is great.
Wow i think that will be great! I remember Latin masses, barely, but I do remember them. I always loved them and wish they would bring them back.
good points but never forget the homosexual lobby is trying to say that the male on male sex was not homosexuality.
The problem is its NOT JUST THE PRIESTS.. that's what I am saying.. the Church decided to make a deal with the devil when it dropped the ban on Homosexuals in the priesthood.... They modified it to be, ok as long as they weren't active and practicing.. and this change allowed them in the door, now more than a generation later, they are not only in the church, but they have turned many diocese into their own bath houses. Actively recruiting young gays, trading sexual favors for position and clout, covering up for one another etc etc. Any that speak out against them are pushed off into the boondocks and forgotten.
Now not all Diocese are this bad, but trust me, some are and most lay Catholics have no idea how bad some of them are. Its no longer just a gay priest here and there, they are in positions of power, appointing or refusing appointments based on favors and things.
The purge that needs to happen in some of these diocese are massive in scope... and the church needs to return to banning homosexuals from serving in the priesthood period. This "enlightened' move to remove the ban threatens the very foundations of the church... It must be stopped and the blackness must be rooted out.
Tell me about your motorcycle priest...
NO PROBLEM!! :) I will post it again in a couple of hours. Just kidding LOL. I can't get enough of good news.
I thought it was the Lavendar Mafia???
Gay men account for 1% of the population and 28% of molestations. So the answer to your question is "no". However, a gay man is more likely to be a pedophile.
The Pope needs to bring the hammer down and clean the mess up.
Velvet. Lavender. My colors are mixed up.
"Some joke that he may even bring back Latin masses."
Watch and see. Watch how he has offered every public Mass thus far.
This is no joke.
For example:
I don't know if most gay men are pedophiles, but certainly most reported molestations are by adult men on boys... numbers are around 70%.
Now there can be debate about the accuracy, since females that are molested at a young age may be being done so by close family members and less apt to report it.
However I do know this, I would not let my young son out of my sight if I knew I was going to be someplace with practicing homosexuals. I don't care what they say about their "lifestyle".. its a mental disorder that manifests itself in narcicistic, self destructive and hedonist behavior, it worships youth and "beauty" and abhors anything at all that restricts their actions.... This means your child, or anyone else for that matter is nothing more than a potential source of pleasure for them, and nothing more.
I have never seen one study yet to date that shows me homosexuality is not in most cases exactly that... in fact the dropping of it as classified as that in the DSM was not done due to any new study or research, just out of politics. If the previous DSM classification was wrong, seems to me simple studies could debunk it.. yet, to this very day, non exist supporting the fact Homosexuality is not a mental disorder.
I read it was one in ten., but much higher compared to the heterosexual population.
Uh...good luck with that.
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