House Press Release posted here:
http://judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/PATAct201etc5305.pdf
Posted on 05/02/2005 7:26:43 PM PDT by MagnusMaximus1
Below press Release announcing tomorrow's hearing was just posted today on a congressional website.
PATRIOT Act Oversight Hearing Tuesday
What: Oversight Hearing on Sections 201, 202, 213, and 223 of the USA PATRIOT Act
Who: Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security - Rep. Howard Coble (R-N.C.), Chairman
When: 10:00 a.m., Tuesday, May 3, 2005
Where: 2141 Rayburn Building
House Press Release posted here:
http://judiciary.house.gov/media/pdfs/PATAct201etc5305.pdf
Yes, it's time to let it expire.
Bob Barr works for the ACLU. Who the hell cares what he thinks?
Which parts are those? I've read it, and beyond the hyperbole I read ~about~ it, I haven't yet actually seen anything in it that seems objectionable to me.
Got something specific?
True Americans who honor their oaths of office should care about what Bob Barr thinks.
I think I can be a "true" American and still support it. To those who think I'm not, they know what they can do with that. ;)
That seems to be the only thing that I ever hear about it. Library books. What?? Uhmm... big deal? I remember when library books had check-out cards in the front cover and all you had to do to see who'd ever checked out a book was to look and the card and there's the name and date of everybody that had checked it out. Big Whoopie.
Alliance Members
Members of Patriots to Restore Checks and Balances urge Congress to review and, where necessary, amend provisions of the Patriot Act to bring them in-line with the Constitution.
Rep. Bob Barr, Chairman, PRCB
Former Member of Congress (R-GA)
Brad Jansen
Adjunct Scholar, Competitive Enterprise Institute
Association of American Physicians and Surgeons
American Civil Liberties Union
Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms
“The members of our Alliance are concerned about efforts by Congress and the Administration to make all the temporary powers of the Patriot Act permanent, without any recognition of the serious reservations many law-biding Americans have about secrets searches of their homes and their possessions by federal agents, as well as other far-reaching provisions.â€
Bob Barr, Chairman, Patriots to Restore Checks and Balances
more civil rights violations against average americans take place at traffic stops every day then under prosecution with the patriot act.
You claim that these organisations oppose the act. OK. What do YOU oppose about the act?
I'm honestly not merely being obtuse here. I'd really like to know what you find objectionable in the act.
You have a point there, regardless, the Patriot Act needs to expire, asap.
let's just take one basic concept - should authorities have to get a court order to monitor each and every different communications medium a person under surveillance might use? a land line, various cell phones, email and the internet, text messaging, etc. Or should they be able to get just one warrant to cover them all?
They will do it anyway, warrant or none. Maybe not the FBI but other agencies.
Other laws already answer your questions. Just because SOME local, state and federal law enforcement officials are too lazy, stupid and/or egotistical to comply with proper legal procedures and/or applicable laws, does not mean we should continue to allow them or control-freak politicians to rape our Constitution by such legislation as the "Patriot Act".
You keep posting links to things with which you say you agree.
Can you articulate some of the things with which ~you~ have a problem?
Now some might say "If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about," but I'd rather they provide a reasonable cause for a search before they do it instead of inventing one after the fact.
I heard Judge Napolitano on the radio a few months back (on Jim Quinn's show, www.warroom.com) he was talking about how different parts of the Patriot Act desperately need to be removed and/or reworked. This (above) was one of the specifics he cited. Some folks here don't give Judge Napolitano a lot of credibility, but I don't see what's wrong with him.
what laws? why is the single wiretap provision part of the patriot act then, if its already on the books someplace else? do you realize we live in a country where someone can walk into a Best Buy and walk out with an activated cell phone, anonymously paid for with cash, 2 minutes later? how are court issued wiretap regulations supposed to keep up with surveillance given those kinds of realities?
No, actually, it was the Patriot Act that finally allowed LE agencies to file for a warrant to wiretap a *person* instead of a particular phone number. Seems sensible. In the age of disposable pre-paid cell phones, it would be impossible otherwise.
Is this one of the things you think is a problem? Why?
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