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DeLay investigation triggering 'ethics war'
Christian Science Monitor ^ | May 3, 2005 | Gail Russell Chaddock

Posted on 05/03/2005 1:49:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

WASHINGTON - A timely photo op with President Bush and a tribute at the Capitol Hilton next week signal how seriously official Washington is taking the next round of ethics investigations around embattled House leader Tom DeLay.

It's an investigation that the House majority leader says he welcomes, to clear his name. But it's also threatening to engulf other members of Congress, as opposition researchers for both parties plunge into member disclosure forms in search of lapses. The looming ethics war could write a new chapter in an long-running story of money, power, and boundary lines in Washington.

Congress has come a long way from the days when Sen. Daniel Webster penned an 1833 letter reminding banking interests that his "annual retainer" was due and important banking legislation was coming up in the US Senate. Today, he'd be swiftly expelled and prosecuted.

But even as standards have risen, so has the volume of dollars flowing through the capital. At the root of the DeLay investigation: How many degrees of separation are appropriate between lobbyist cash and politicians? The search for answers could tarnish both parties.

"We're in an ethics war that's the congressional

equivalent of mutually assured destruction," says Mike Franc, vice president for government relations at the Heritage Foundation. "There will be a retaliation of equal or greater force."

After months of deadlock - and a repeal of GOP-drafted ethics rule muscled through the House at the start of the new Congress - the House ethics panel is expected to organize this week. At the top of its agenda is the swirl of allegations around DeLay.

If confirmed, the charges that lobbyists paid for DeLay's travel to Russia, London, Scotland, and South Korea would be a violation of House rules. He also faces a deferred ethics complaint over alleged illegal corporate contributions to a group in Texas that he helped found.

The first signs of retaliation surfaced last week, as freshmen Reps. Patrick McHenry (R) of North Carolina and Lynn Westmoreland (R) of Georgia chastised minority whip Steny Hoyer (D) of Maryland for failing to file required 30-day travel disclosure forms over a number of years. Democrats call these procedural or technical corrections.

Last week, House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi filed a late report for an aide whose trip to South Korea was financed by a group that had registered as a foreign agent, which appears to violate House rules. Current House rules do not forbid members from accepting privately financed travel. But lawmakers are required to "make inquiry about the source of the funds" for the trip.

According to public disclosure forms, DeLay took 14 trips paid for by private interests worth just over $94,000 since 2000, but 27 lawmakers took trips from private groups that were valued more. Since 2000, members of Congress have taken more than $16 million in privately financed trips, according to an analysis by PoliticalMoneyLine, an online public interest research group.

"A lot of folks don't understand the rules and regulations relative to travel," says James Albertine, president of Albertine Enterprises and a longtime lobbyist. "Most lobbyists want to be ethical, but we live in a very complex town. The ability to get time with members has become a very important part of the profession."

Last week, The Washington Post reported that expenses for a privately funded golfing trip to Scotland in 2000 were covered by a credit card in the name of Washington lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who is currently under investigation by a Senate committee and the Justice Department over some $80 million in fees for work on behalf of Indian gambling interests on Capitol Hill.

Public interest groups say such travel payments would violate House rules. "The rules are clear: A lobbyist can't advance funds for travel," says Larry Noble of the Center for Responsive Politics.

Even so, the lobbyist provision is a fig leaf, critics say. "The lobbyist can't pay for the trip, and a lobbying firm can't pay for the trip, but the client can," says Mr. Noble. That client is a nonprofit group, which may have ties to industry. "So, the lobbyist still gets the benefit of going along with the member."

But lobbyists and some members of Congress say there is ambiguity in how the rules are interpreted. Paul Miller, president of the American League of Lobbyists, says it's not unusual for lobbyists to help set up or arrange a trip. "I don't see that that's an issue. But the money has to come from a nonprofit. The lobbyist is acting as nothing more than a conduit for helping arrange that travel." As to whether a lobbyist can cover expenses for members of Congress with a credit card and be reimbursed by clients at a later date, he says: "That's to be discussed."

As the DeLay travel flap heated up, members are already wary about future privately sponsored travel. The conservative Heritage Foundation finds members reluctant to sign up for its annual summer policy wonker on social security.

"DeLay's ethics woes will have a chilling effect on congressional travel," says Rep. Harold Ford (D) of Tennessee, who ranks No. 2 in the number of trips paid for by private groups. Travel often helps members understand the issues, he says.

Meanwhile, House Democrats Rahm Emanuel of Illinois and Marty Meehan of Massachusetts are developing a proposal to require lobbyists to disclose ties with nonprofit groups and the way private groups pay for travel. The bill would also double the time members and staff will have to wait after leaving Congress before becoming lobbyists to former colleagues.

At issue in the next round of ethics wars - and the reforms that follow - is how to break the appearance that Washington runs on a pay-to-play basis. After taking back the House in 1995, Republicans increased lobbyist disclosure requirements as well as restrictions on gifts they could give to lawmakers. It's these disclosure requirements that are providing grist for the next rounds in an ethics war.

"Power, if it doesn't corrupt, makes people numb to appearances. It happens over and over again," says Brooks Jackson, whose 1988 book "Honest Graft" helped define the last ethics war.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; delay; ethics; ethicscommittee; probe; tomdelay; ushouse
HIGH PROFILE: President Bush and Tom Delay (left) traveled to Texas for a recent Social Security round table. GERALD HERBERT/AP
1 posted on 05/03/2005 1:49:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Throw the Ratscals out!

Tom DeLay, we keep. They can publish all the hack pieces they want--the man is no Rat scumball. The Pelosites would sacrifice a thousand Rats to take out one good man.


2 posted on 05/03/2005 2:16:22 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: LibertarianInExile
Tom DeLay, we keep....

Bump!

3 posted on 05/03/2005 2:17:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What in the world is Harold Ford Jr. chiming in on Tom DeLay's ethics for???????

The Ford family regime is the most politically corrupt ever!!!!!!!!!!
4 posted on 05/03/2005 2:27:50 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This should be an entertaining public review of the behavior of power brokers and influence peddlers in 21st century Rome-on-the-Potomac. Sit back with your big bucket of buttered popcorn and Big Gulp soda and enjoy the show.


5 posted on 05/03/2005 2:39:00 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"Most lobbyists want to be ethical, but we live in a very complex town. The ability to get time with members has become a very important part of the profession."

That is the main problem with Congress right there. They think that their time is rightfully for sale to the highest bidder. The more time they spend with lobbyists, the less time they spend representing the public.

There is no reason for Congress to stay in DC like they do. The only reason for that is so that they are in a centralized location for lobbyists. Lobbyists don't represent the true feelings of "We the People" - take the NRA for instance. The NRA stresses hunting rights, and makes the 2nd Amendment's true reason for existence secondary. Not to most of their members - it's the other way around. That's why Kerry's "hunting trips" were such comical relief, and why they made such an asshole of Kerry.


6 posted on 05/03/2005 2:55:09 AM PDT by datura (Fix bayonets.)
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek

How dare We The People entertain thoughts of the elite outing themselves. A back room deal will be made.

Either no more rap on Delay or Delay for 4 lesser dems.


7 posted on 05/03/2005 2:58:24 AM PDT by winodog (We need to pull the fedgov.con's feeding tube)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Larry Noble
Executive Director
Compensation: $125,000

Compensation for the CEO of this charity is equal to 10.22% of this organization's total functional expenses.


8 posted on 05/03/2005 3:10:11 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Larry Noble and his organization are advocates of legislation that caused the FEC to consider regulating political speech on the Internet.


9 posted on 05/03/2005 3:19:43 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Baghdad" Jim McDermott and Nancy Pelosi are the most prominent Democrats in serious trouble if the ethics charges against them are pursued--and the MSM and the Democrats know it.

I guess they were so giddy with their tirade against Tom DeLay, they didn't really think this through properly.

10 posted on 05/03/2005 3:26:27 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

That is one serious freaky looking woman behind Pelosi!


11 posted on 05/03/2005 3:35:32 AM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek

12 posted on 05/03/2005 3:44:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: SkyPilot
Jim McDermott wants you to Get the Facts
13 posted on 05/03/2005 3:48:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: kcvl
The msm and their pursuit of Tom DeLay and ethics:

Google search: 910,000 for Tom DeLay ethics. (0.17 seconds)

14 posted on 05/03/2005 3:51:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This ridiculous ethics posse after Delay has really become a comedic sideshow. Now the democrats are scurrying around trying to make sure their own house is in order, some claiming they didn't know they themselves were not in compliance because they don't know all the rules.

I ask: If you are too stupid to know whether or not you yourself is a rule-breaker, how in the he|| do you stand in judgment of others?
15 posted on 05/03/2005 3:51:50 AM PDT by whereasandsoforth (Stamp out liberals with the big boot of truth)
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To: datura

Lobbyists come on bended knee with campaign money in hand to bow to the men and women who can make their life easy or make their life hell.


Who is more at fault, the lobbyists or the elected officials?


16 posted on 05/03/2005 3:54:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: whereasandsoforth
This ridiculous ethics posse after Delay has really become a comedic sideshow. Now the democrats are scurrying around trying to make sure their own house is in order, some claiming they didn't know they themselves were not in compliance because they don't know all the rules.

And it's given a ho-hum pass by the msm.

17 posted on 05/03/2005 3:55:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Take away the life or death power held over the businesses head, and you take away the incentive to buy favor. The power to regulate interstate commerce did not mean the representatives should be the businessman's god or devil.


18 posted on 05/03/2005 4:03:49 AM PDT by listenhillary (If it ain't broke, it will be after the government tries to fix it)
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To: listenhillary

Exactly!

Laws, laws, laws, laws, laws, laws................

It's time for legislators to spend more time at home.


19 posted on 05/03/2005 4:05:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: 7thson
That is one serious freaky looking woman behind Pelosi!

This one?


20 posted on 05/03/2005 4:06:26 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Remember boys and girls - only Republic ethics make the headlines.


21 posted on 05/03/2005 4:13:37 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: AD from SpringBay

Because the Left doesn't claim to have them.


22 posted on 05/03/2005 4:21:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: SkyPilot

The Democrats that are after Delay's skin are the epitome of arrogance and hypocrisy. The rules do not apply to them. "Do as we say, not as we do". Even though they do exactly the same things that Delay has done they feel that they have exclusive rights that nobody else has.

This is going to get nasty. It will look like a Polish firing squad but the Dems will gladly sacrifice as many of their own as needed to get to Delay.


23 posted on 05/03/2005 4:42:00 AM PDT by Riptides
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To: pageonetoo

No picture. Just a red x. Can you send again?


24 posted on 05/03/2005 5:26:14 AM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Dems opened a big ole can of worms they are gonna wish they hadn't

The Dems want investigations? .... Bring them on


25 posted on 05/03/2005 5:35:54 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
""We're in an ethics war that's the congressional equivalent of mutually assured destruction,"

The Dems have demanded this war, why should we dissappoint?

26 posted on 05/03/2005 7:32:12 AM PDT by cookcounty ("We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the Courts" ---Abe Lincoln, 1858.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It's an investigation that the House majority leader says he welcomes, to clear his name. But it's also threatening to engulf other members of Congress, as opposition researchers for both parties plunge into member disclosure forms in search of lapses.

If that which was not an ethics violation, yesterday, becomes one today, then the Democrats shall reap the whirlwind.

They asked for it. They got it. Suffer, scumbags.

27 posted on 05/03/2005 7:36:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: cookcounty; Southack
The Dems have demanded this war, why should we dissappoint?

PRECISELY. In their fanatical jihad against DeLay, they have just purchased and sharpened the petard they are about to be hoisted upon.

28 posted on 05/03/2005 7:38:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: Riptides
Dems will gladly sacrifice as many of their own as needed to get to Delay.

I, for one, would be willing to lose DeLay to get 100 Democrat congressmen, and 20 Democrat senators. That's called a fair trade in my book.

29 posted on 05/03/2005 7:39:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"We're in an ethics war that's the congressional equivalent of mutually assured destruction,

Now that's a 'nucular option' I would love to see.
30 posted on 05/03/2005 7:57:20 AM PDT by BJClinton (Giuliani/DeLay 2008)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Remember, it was George Stephanopoulos who threatened an "Ellen Romesch strategy" to ABC if they continued to air the accusations of Gary Aldrich. This is nothing if not extortion. Anyway, these rules seem made to be broken. Suppose I were George Soros and I wanted to cozy up to a Congressman by paying for his vacation. I could give the money (even after the trip) to Moveon.org who could make a bequest to another group who gives money to a charity which could lawfully pay for the trip. Money is fungible and no one could trace it.


31 posted on 05/03/2005 8:21:37 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: datura

The word honest is now spelled C-O-M-P-L-E-X! Sounds like the Clinton definitions all over again.
Any word with over one letter is complex to all politicians.
Congress is todays mafia and Don Clinton is missing so they will probably appoint Hillary in 2008!


32 posted on 05/03/2005 9:46:51 AM PDT by gunnedah
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Congressman Jim McDermott is a strong Democrat, a patriot, and a champion of the First Amendment. This is why the Republicans have been after him for eight years. Know the real story…

Hard to type when I am laughing this hard. A "patriot?" He met with Saddam when we were about to go to war where American men and women were maimed and killed by our enemies.

In a more civilized era, he would have been tried and convicted of treason by now.

33 posted on 05/03/2005 10:01:00 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

LOL


34 posted on 05/03/2005 11:55:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Inwoodian

Exactly.

DeLay's detractors are on a political witch hunt.


35 posted on 05/03/2005 11:57:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Inwoodian

Exactly.

DeLay's detractors are on a political witch hunt.


36 posted on 05/03/2005 11:57:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Current House rules do not forbid members from accepting privately financed travel. But lawmakers are required to "make inquiry about the source of the funds" for the trip


37 posted on 05/04/2005 5:44:13 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: SkyPilot

Pelosi and McDermott won't see one bit of heat.

To this point...the only two dems brought up...now that the committee is back up running....well, they are small fish to say the least.

Way too many people around here were just so sure that if Delay was given his chance to go before the committee to clear his name, Pelosi and McDermott would catch heat.

And now we learn that the two most conservative members on that committee will not be allowed to sit on the Delay hearings.

The pool of temp replacements.....well....look for RINOs...AND DEMOCRATS.

Well....looks like that aint gonna happen. Because Republicans on the hill have not spine.


38 posted on 05/04/2005 5:48:33 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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