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LET PFC LYNNDIE ENGLAND GO
boblonsberry.com ^ | 5/3/05 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 05/03/2005 5:43:15 AM PDT by shortstop

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And I’d like to point out one more reason why not.

It’s her chest.

No, not her build. Her ribbons.

Is it just me, or did no one else notice her chest either.

1 posted on 05/03/2005 5:43:16 AM PDT by shortstop
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To: shortstop

Crap!


2 posted on 05/03/2005 5:45:31 AM PDT by verity (A mindset is an antidote to logic.)
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To: shortstop

Do you have a working link to this?


3 posted on 05/03/2005 5:45:54 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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"If you see some more video of her today, look at the service ribbons on, as you look at her, the right side of her chest. There are, by my count, eight of them. Two rows of three and one row of two."

The Army gives medals away; I received twelve of them for two years' service (including one year in 'Nam).

She dishonored the Army.


4 posted on 05/03/2005 5:46:53 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: shortstop

Has anyone else wondered how dog leashes got to Iraq? She didn't have her family send them to her. hmmm...Perhaps someone else above her provided them?


5 posted on 05/03/2005 5:49:29 AM PDT by ladyjane
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"Has anyone else wondered how dog leashes got to Iraq?"

The Army has K-9 units.


6 posted on 05/03/2005 5:50:29 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: shortstop

Bye bye Lyndie...enjoy your time in Leavenworth. You deserve it toots!


7 posted on 05/03/2005 5:51:40 AM PDT by Khurkris (This tag-line is available on CD ROM. NRA.)
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To: ladyjane

Miss England was enjoying herself far too much.

Another reason women should not be in a combat zone or even anywhere near.


8 posted on 05/03/2005 5:52:57 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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Tell me how you get 7-10 prisoners together, strip them naked, put them into a pyramid formation, and then start snapping photos left and right without the top brass knowing about it.

These junior soldiers are getting railroaded. They were carrying out someone else's policy.

9 posted on 05/03/2005 5:54:01 AM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
I agree that she dishonored the uniform and now deserves absolutely no right to wear it. However, she was the 'low man on the totem pole' and I agree with Lonsberry that she is being scapegoated to avoid the very un-PC spectacle of court martial for a female one-star.

Personally, I would probably vote to give her a dishonorable discharge and a felony criminal record but no jail time if I were on the jury. The quicker Abu Ghraib goes away, the better for the Army.

BTW, thank you for your service and Welcome Home.
10 posted on 05/03/2005 5:54:08 AM PDT by RebelBanker (To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

I had 8 by the time I was 20 also. Read the list and tell me the Air Force (and probably the Army) doesn't hand these out like candy:

AF Basic Training Ribbon
AF Expert Marksmanship Ribbon
National Defense Medal
AF Longevity award
AF Outstanding Unit Award (twice)
SE Asia Campaign Medal (twice)
AF Achievement Medal
AF Good Conduct Medal


11 posted on 05/03/2005 5:57:58 AM PDT by T.Smith
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

NSDQ


12 posted on 05/03/2005 6:00:20 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: ladyjane
Has anyone else wondered how dog leashes got to Iraq?

Er... maybe in the standard supplies for military K-9 units?

13 posted on 05/03/2005 6:02:17 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: T.Smith

No surprise that the Air Force is as generous as the Army--the USAF was originally part of the Army.

I met a Marine who served in 'Nam--he had a Silver Star, a Good Conduct Medal, and a National Defense Service Medal, and that was IT.


14 posted on 05/03/2005 6:02:56 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: ladyjane

It's not a leash. It's a teather, and they are used on prisoners who have a tendency to run around.


15 posted on 05/03/2005 6:04:35 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: shortstop

I disagree with Lonsberry, but it is only a matter of degree.

This young lady should receive a bcd special, spend 6 mos in the stockade at Ft Knox, and then get to go home to W. Va.

She admitted everything, and the truth is that what was done is taught AGAINST in every military school she ever went to. I guarantee it. I used to teach these things.

However, mitigating against this is the consistent belief on the part of these soldiers that what they were doing was "approved of" or even "encouraged" for purposes of interrogration. I believe they grossly distorted something that WAS told them, but the bottom line is that no one was killed, no one was injured.

Therefore, a bcd special for behavior detrimental to morale, which it definitely was.....detrimental to her entire unit and to her nation.


16 posted on 05/03/2005 6:04:41 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: shortstop

Sorry...your pathetic plea for her release falls on
deaf ears.

Besides being a poor excuse for a military woman, The gal showed absolutely NO self-pride, moral stamina, or decency
as an American soldier. She understood when she joined
the service that she was to uphold the code of conduct
written in the handbook of the U.S. Military. She screwed
up in many ways, not the least of which was getting pregnant and having her picture taken in various poses
of disreputable activity. She wasn't just snapped with
that leash in her hand. At one point she held a bottle of
booze, climbed aboard the pyramid, and Lord only knows
what other disgusting ventures she indulged in that we
have not been shown on the news/internet. She might be
able to plead "they made me do it" to ONE picture...but
NOT to multiples. She was playing the "good time out
with the boys" and enjoyed every minute of it! Forget
that plea that she didn't know the pictures would catch
up with her as an embarrassment to her family and friends.
Even a 4-year old knows pictures are "memory moments" and
they don't get tossed into the garbage. Sometimes, as
in this case, the garbage rises up to slap you in the
face.

Nope. England has noone to blame but herself. As
for those ribbons, she may well have bought them for
favors rendered...in the line of duty!

NO sympathy here. Throw the book at her as a deterrent
to other slugs that sign up to escape a rotten home life.


17 posted on 05/03/2005 6:10:48 AM PDT by Grendel9
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To: shortstop

I'd like to hear her side of the story before forming an opinion. When I was a Pfc in the army there was nobody lower on the food chain than me ... she had to have been taking orders from someone and had lots of help.


18 posted on 05/03/2005 6:11:24 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: xzins
This young lady should receive a bcd special, spend 6 mos in the stockade at Ft Knox, and then get to go home to W. Va.

I agree. This would be a very fair sentance. Given the nature of her crimes, 11 years is complete overkill. She needs to be punished, and put out of service yesterday with a swift Kiwi assist to the 4th point of contact. Her actions were a complete disgrace to the honor and integrity of the military.

But 11 years in Leavenworth for acting like a punk kid instead of a soldier? Absurd.

19 posted on 05/03/2005 6:14:30 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (The poor b@$tards, they've got us surrounded!)
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To: ladyjane
"Has anyone else wondered how dog leashes got to Iraq?"

She bought them at Pets R Us over on Saddam Hussein Blvd. Just kidding, but I suspect they have pet stores in Iraq. They have everything else.
20 posted on 05/03/2005 6:15:19 AM PDT by monday
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