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The Crusaders were right after all
London Telegraph ^ | May 4, 2005 | Chris Howse

Posted on 05/03/2005 6:34:27 PM PDT by pissant

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Yes they were correct, and if not for in fighting amongst the europeans the Crusades would have been more successful!
1 posted on 05/03/2005 6:34:28 PM PDT by pissant
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The movie's history is poor, but, then again, so is this reviewer's.


2 posted on 05/03/2005 6:41:55 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Armed Forces Day May 21, 2005)
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The New Concise History of the Crusades, Revised Edition

The New Concise History of the Crusades, Revised Edition

3 posted on 05/03/2005 6:41:59 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: pissant

Good repudiation of Scott's anti-Christian view of Christians defending themselves. (And who would believe Orlando Bloom as a soldier, anyway?)


4 posted on 05/03/2005 6:44:22 PM PDT by Bombardier (The thagomizer of the VRWC (look it up).)
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Have you read that and do you recommend it?


5 posted on 05/03/2005 6:45:09 PM PDT by speedy
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In reading a bio of the Hapsburg family, which dates back before the Crusades, I discovered that assaults from the Muslims were routine and that they, the Muslims including Seulieman the Turk, could be bought off. If you gave him enough money he'd leave you alone for a while.

So much for religious zealotry - it was and is all about conquering and control, not faith.

6 posted on 05/03/2005 6:47:36 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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I have and I do!

Not difficult reading and it puts things in historical perspective that is often lacking.


7 posted on 05/03/2005 6:47:47 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Lizavetta

The battle continues to this day. Except Europe has no ability to defend itself. They ride on America's coattails once again.


8 posted on 05/03/2005 6:49:01 PM PDT by pissant (select your paddle carefully)
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THE LOMBARDS OF THE FIRST CRUSADE



9 posted on 05/03/2005 6:50:13 PM PDT by Main Street (Stuck in traffic.)
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"The jihad of Mohammed's followers...and its programme had HAVE (present tense) no end but the conquest of the whole world under unified Islamic rule."
10 posted on 05/03/2005 6:51:01 PM PDT by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: Main Street

I like your post.


11 posted on 05/03/2005 6:53:04 PM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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To: endthematrix

Fortunately, America will stand against the tide.


12 posted on 05/03/2005 6:55:06 PM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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Yes they were correct, and if not for in fighting amongst the europeans the Crusades would have been more successful!

You are correct. The Muslims have been attempting to take over the world from the beginning and the Crusades were a part of what has kept them from having Europe until now. I find another interesting historic battler of Islam to be Vlad the Impaler. Kinda rocky history for a family there... totally off the wall human being... but he did fight the Islamic hoards.

13 posted on 05/03/2005 6:56:07 PM PDT by Wneighbor
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To: Incorrigible

Thanks so much!! I'm on my way over to Amazon to buy it.


14 posted on 05/03/2005 6:56:09 PM PDT by speedy
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To: bnelson44

I was excited to see a movie bout the Crusades. But it sounds like politically correct garbage. I shall avoid it.


15 posted on 05/03/2005 6:56:22 PM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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To: Incorrigible
Not difficult reading and it puts things in historical perspective that is often lacking.

Thanks for the recommendation. Sounds like something I need to pick up too.

16 posted on 05/03/2005 6:57:07 PM PDT by Wneighbor
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Orlando Bloom is almost sort of...effeminate.


17 posted on 05/03/2005 6:57:15 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: Incorrigible
I read this book, it was quite illuminating: It was interesting, but ends right before the time of the movie. A good resource if you are looking for information on the 1st Crusade or why the Crusades started.
18 posted on 05/03/2005 6:57:58 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Armed Forces Day May 21, 2005)
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To: Main Street

Hey, I like that!


19 posted on 05/03/2005 6:59:25 PM PDT by Wneighbor
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To: speedy

I particularly like an oldie but a goodie, Runcimans three-volume history.

Another good one is by Zoe Oldebourg, who was quite a fine historical novelist, but her straight history is first-rate.


20 posted on 05/03/2005 6:59:55 PM PDT by buwaya
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