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Why I'm not a 'South Park Conservative', by Michelle Malkin
Townhall.com ^ | May 4, 2005 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 05/04/2005 5:59:04 AM PDT by OESY

I'll get to First Lady Laura Bush's bawdy stand-up routine in a minute. But I want to highlight a related new book out about how young conservatives are shaking up the dominant liberal media culture. It's called "South Park Conservatives." My name is listed on the cover along with many other (mostly) right-leaning pundits, websites, and bloggers, but I must confess to having mixed feelings about the honor.

The best-selling book's author, Brian C. Anderson of the Manhattan Institute, writes a fun, breezy survey documenting the rise of talk radio, FOX News, the Internet, conservative publishing, and college Republican activism. Anderson's chapter on the success of conservative talk radio and the abysmal failure of liberal Air America to replicate it is incisive. Another chapter on the blogosphere (alone worth the price of the book) gives readers a useful history of the explosion of news, opinion, and political websites that have smashed the left-wing media monopoly.

But how did such a wide-ranging list of individuals and organizations -- Anderson's book cover includes the names of conservative-leaning Internet pioneer Matt Drudge and center-left journalist Mickey Kaus, the libertarian Tech Central Station, the culturally conservative WorldNetDaily, political upstart Arnold Schwarzenegger and political chameleon Andrew Sullivan, plus Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, and myself, along with a feature blurb from Jonah Goldberg -- all get lumped under the umbrella term "South Park Conservatives"?

Anderson argues that Comedy Central's cartoon series "South Park" embodies the "fiercely anti-liberal comedic spirit" of the "new media" from Kaus to Coulter. The cartoon, he writes, reflects a "post-liberal counterculture" that is "particularly appealing to the young, however much it might offend older conservatives."

Well, I'm 34 and no fan of "South Park." I have many good friends who are indeed huge boosters of the show, but I find that the characters' foul language overwhelms any entertainment I might otherwise derive from the show's occasional, right-leaning iconoclastic themes.

"South Park" may be "politically incorrect." But "politically incorrect" is not always a synonym for "conservative."

My discomfort with "South Park's" increasingly mainstream vulgarity is not a matter of nitpicking. We're not just talking about a stray curse word here or there. As liberal New York Times columnist Frank Rich points out, "South Park" "holds the record for the largest number of bleeped-out repetitions (162) of a single four-letter expletive in a single television half-hour." That's probably about the same number of profanities uttered at John Kerry's infamous New York City celebrity fundraiser last summer, which Republicans rightly condemned for its excessive obscenities.

Rich is wrong about most things, but he's painfully on target in noting the incongruous pandering now taking place by some in the cool-kids clique on the Right. Conservatives criticize Hollywood relentlessly, but as Rich notes, "the embarrassing reality is that they want to be hip, too."

Which brings me to Mrs. Bush. She demonstrated at the celebrity-studded White House Correspondents' Dinner this weekend that you can entertain without being profane. Most of her humor was just right: Edgy but not over the edge. But her off-color stripper and horse jokes crossed the line. Can you blame Howard Stern for feeling peeved and perplexed? And let's face it: If Teresa ("I'm cheeky!") Heinz Kerry had delivered Mrs. Bush's First Lady Gone Mildly Wild routine, social conservative pundits would be up in arms over her bad taste and lack of dignity.

The First Lady resorting to horse masturbation jokes is not much better than Whoopi Goldberg trafficking in dumb puns on the Bush family name. It was wholly unnecessary.

Self-censorship is a conservative value. In a brilliant commencement speech at Hillsdale College last year, Heritage Foundation president Ed Feulner called on his audience to resist the coarsened rhetoric of our time: "If we are to prevail as a free, self-governing people, we must first govern our tongues and our pens. Restoring civility to public discourse is not an option. It is a necessity."

Lighten up, you say? No thanks. I'd rather be a G-rated conservative who can only make my kids giggle than a "South Park"/"Desperate Housewives" conservative whose goal is getting Richard Gere and Jane Fonda to snicker. Giving the Hollyweird Left the last laugh is not my idea of success.


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Michelle Malkin is a syndicated columnist and maintains her weblog at michellemalkin.com
1 posted on 05/04/2005 5:59:07 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY

Laura Bush's stand-up routine was a bit "cheeky" at times but the crowd she delivered it to the average age had to be close to 55 with no kid's present.

She walked to the edge but didn't cross....

Malkin is just nit-picking on this issue....she is right about South Park, it is vulgar at times but that is part of it's appeal, it's non-PC.....

NeverGore :^)


3 posted on 05/04/2005 6:05:48 AM PDT by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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To: OESY

PMS?


4 posted on 05/04/2005 6:06:54 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: OESY

Well written article. I agree wholeheartedly!


5 posted on 05/04/2005 6:09:23 AM PDT by Dscott_FR (Right Wing Extremist and proud of it!!)
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To: Pookyhead

Haha, the dems are in big trouble if this is the best ammo they can get.


6 posted on 05/04/2005 6:11:47 AM PDT by Righty_McRight
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To: OESY

>> "The First Lady resorting to horse masturbation jokes" <<

It is in the ear of the listener, as a result of our course society, that the joke would be thought of as a "masturbation" joke. It is a very old joke about city people not knowing the difference between male and female animals. That is all it is.


7 posted on 05/04/2005 6:12:28 AM PDT by sd-joe
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To: OESY

i agree with Malkin on this.


8 posted on 05/04/2005 6:12:50 AM PDT by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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To: nevergore

I like Michelle but she's treading a little too close to the democrat style whine with this one.


9 posted on 05/04/2005 6:13:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I don't suffer from stress. I am a carrier!)
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To: OESY

Maulkin is guilty of what many liberals are guilty of---ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE OF HUMOR...lighten up, Michelle.


10 posted on 05/04/2005 6:14:36 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: OESY
We're not just talking about a stray curse word here or there. As liberal New York Times columnist Frank Rich points out, "South Park" "holds the record for the largest number of bleeped-out repetitions (162) of a single four-letter expletive in a single television half-hour."

Yeah, but, THAT'S JUST FUNNY! I don't think she gets the irony.

11 posted on 05/04/2005 6:15:22 AM PDT by RushCrush (Southpark Conservative)
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To: OESY

Michele is getting very close to jumping the shark.


12 posted on 05/04/2005 6:16:03 AM PDT by RexBeach ("I can see it now. You and the moon. You wear a necktie so I'll know you." -Groucho Marx)
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To: OESY
But "politically incorrect" is not always a synonym for "conservative."

Witness the TV show by the same name, which is neither.

(Michelle rocks.)

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG

13 posted on 05/04/2005 6:17:37 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: OESY

"Lighten up, Francis"


14 posted on 05/04/2005 6:17:55 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (The poor b@$tards, they've got us surrounded!)
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To: OESY
So let me get this straight, she's whining because there is an upsurge of "new" Republicans from the college front, or the cartoon fan front, or the blog front. And now she wants to distance herself from them?

And conservatives wonder why they have problems! Just when we start gaining ground some holier-than-thou type tries to divide the group.

15 posted on 05/04/2005 6:18:08 AM PDT by RushCrush (Southpark Conservative)
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To: OESY
"Michelle Malkin is a syndicated columnist..."

...and an uptight shletered, prudish puritan who obviously has no street smarts or sense of humor.

16 posted on 05/04/2005 6:18:32 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: OESY
But her off-color stripper and horse jokes crossed the line. Can you blame Howard Stern for feeling peeved and perplexed?

Nice try, but nothing the First Lady said Saturday was close to a Howard Stern show.

17 posted on 05/04/2005 6:19:17 AM PDT by IrishGOP
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To: RushCrush

"holds the record for the largest number of bleeped-out repetitions (162) of a single four-letter expletive in a single television half-hour."


That's why they did it, they even had a counter on the screen to keep track.


18 posted on 05/04/2005 6:19:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I don't suffer from stress. I am a carrier!)
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To: OESY

Horse masturbation?...geez malkin has a dirtier mind than I do. I wasn't even going there. Talk about panties being up in a bunch.


19 posted on 05/04/2005 6:19:48 AM PDT by paltz (New York is a blue city talking for an overwhelmingy Red State)
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To: sd-joe
It is in the ear of the listener, as a result of our course society, that the joke would be thought of as a "masturbation" joke. It is a very old joke about city people not knowing the difference between male and female animals. That is all it is.

Yep. Those who don't get it have probably never left the city. Some of them have never even seen a real farm animal.

20 posted on 05/04/2005 6:20:14 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: paltz; Palladin
Honestly horse masturbation NEVER ONCE entered my mind until yesterday when Palladin said it on a different thread.

Palladin, thanks for corrupting me. I'll never be the same again.

21 posted on 05/04/2005 6:21:02 AM PDT by RushCrush (Ya big babies!)
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To: OESY

MM's right about South Park (whose wildly supportive following on FR is only a bit less distressing than Howard Stern's).

She makes a good point about Laura Bush's routine; it just didn't strike me that way, and I saw the whole thing. I just don't see it as a "horse masturbation" joke; I saw it as a "W didn't know diddly about farming" joke.

Dan


22 posted on 05/04/2005 6:22:18 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: RexBeach
Michele is getting very close to jumping the shark.

She did that a long time ago.


23 posted on 05/04/2005 6:22:24 AM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: OESY

Oh and btw, as I showed, it's possible to disagree with MM on that point without having to attack her for having a different view, and trashing all the excellent writing she does every single week.

Dan


24 posted on 05/04/2005 6:23:27 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: rdb3

She's entirely to young to be a bitter prude.


25 posted on 05/04/2005 6:23:50 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: bonfire
She's entirely to young to be a bitter prude.

She's a year older than I, but this not too young when you're targeting a specific audience. She never misses her mark in this.


26 posted on 05/04/2005 6:25:05 AM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: Dscott_FR
Yes, I agree for the most part, and I don't believe she is attacking Mrs. Bush, just reminding us that there are (or should be) lines of what you say where. To say "Well, it was a group of adults" is to miss the point. Everyone knew it would be broadcast and they knew that the most shocking lines (since most of what passes for comedy in our day must shock for some reason) would be played everywhere. This paragraph is important for people to read and get:

Self-censorship is a conservative value. In a brilliant commencement speech at Hillsdale College last year, Heritage Foundation president Ed Feulner called on his audience to resist the coarsened rhetoric of our time: "If we are to prevail as a free, self-governing people, we must first govern our tongues and our pens. Restoring civility to public discourse is not an option. It is a necessity."

I see so little self censorship anywhere. I am tired of having to listen to truely gutter language any time I go out in public. We have a generation out there now who don't understand much about appropriate behavior in the appropriate place, nor do they understand the difference in a child and an adult. Much as I love them, we have failed to teach them proper behavior.
susie
27 posted on 05/04/2005 6:25:12 AM PDT by brytlea (Yes, there are Republican teachers...)
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To: OESY

This may be the first time I disagree with the wonderful Michelle.

Milking the bull is such an old joke. Laura made it funny again.

I wish the left had humor as "over the top" as Laura.


28 posted on 05/04/2005 6:25:21 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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To: RushCrush
We're not just talking about a stray curse word here or there. As liberal New York Times columnist Frank Rich points out, "South Park" "holds the record for the largest number of bleeped-out repetitions (162) of a single four-letter expletive in a single television half-hour."

I must not be thinking of the same word - the episode I saw, they WEREN'T bleeped, and they kept a running tally at the bottom of the screen.
29 posted on 05/04/2005 6:25:59 AM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: OESY

The jokes were funny.

People need to get a grip and lighten up.

Sheesh.


30 posted on 05/04/2005 6:26:06 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: rdb3

Perhaps she's just too young to have gotten the 'milk the bull' joke. Simple as that.


31 posted on 05/04/2005 6:26:21 AM PDT by RushCrush (Ya big babies!)
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To: RushCrush
Just when we start gaining ground some holier-than-thou type tries to divide the group.

A good case can be made that the "holier-than-thou" types are the ones who flaunt their "holier-than-thouness" by pointing out, "Look how much more hip I am in than you are: I said %##& five times in a row. You are such a prudish, Puritanical ninny for not appreciating my South Park Republican-ness."

32 posted on 05/04/2005 6:26:38 AM PDT by Skooz (Jesus Christ Set Me Free of Drug Addiction in 1985. Thank You, Lord.)
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To: rdb3

You are probably quite correct! Michelle is not the center of the political universe.


33 posted on 05/04/2005 6:27:02 AM PDT by RexBeach ("I can see it now. You and the moon. You wear a necktie so I'll know you." -Groucho Marx)
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To: Skooz

Variety is the spice of life. It takes all kinds. There's a lid for every pot. Shall I go on?


34 posted on 05/04/2005 6:27:27 AM PDT by RushCrush (Ya big babies!)
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To: OESY
But her off-color stripper and horse jokes crossed the line...

I"m afraid that I must agree with Michelle on this one. I love Mrs Bush, but she crossed the line and I'm sorry for it.

35 posted on 05/04/2005 6:28:14 AM PDT by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! Now on to local issues: http://Allen4President.com)
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To: RushCrush

Whatever floats your boat. Whatever melts your butter...........


36 posted on 05/04/2005 6:29:05 AM PDT by Skooz (Jesus Christ Set Me Free of Drug Addiction in 1985. Thank You, Lord.)
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To: OESY
>> "The First Lady resorting to horse masturbation jokes" <<

Although I tend to agree with Malkin on the South Park review (I too avoid that comedy for the same reason) I am wondering about all this stuff about horse 'masturbation' or horse 'penis' joke (as my son in law put it to me yesterday).

I was not entralled with Laura Bushe's choice of humor, giving any ties between herself and 'desperate housewives' for one thing .. however, in hearing her jokes about her husband not knowing the difference between a cow or a horse and a male horse at that was rather humorous.

It seems the left is hard at work putting out talking points on this new 'humor' of our first lady, and I think my son-in-law must be listening to Howard Sterns or something too much ...

Anyone have the text or soundbite on what dear Mr Sterns' opinion was on Laura's humor? Would love to see the ties between that and my "don't call me liberal' son in law's getting his input from this shock-jock of the airwaves.

37 posted on 05/04/2005 6:29:37 AM PDT by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect our borders. FIRST, before any talk of "Amnesty.")
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To: RexBeach

She seems to believe Mrs. Bush should rise above pandering to the liberals--that the First Lady is too sophisticated and classy to be telling bawdy jokes about horse masturbation to entertain liberals who will never respect her.

I agree--but am willing to give Mrs. Bush this one.


38 posted on 05/04/2005 6:29:52 AM PDT by unsycophant
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To: brytlea

Yikes, everyone now knows I am not an English Teacher!! I do know that don't should be doesn't in my previous post!!! Mea culpa (or something like that!)

BTW can anyone explain to me why the horse being male is funnier than it being a female? And yes, I've actually owned horses, and breed dogs, so I'm not a citified person who doesn't understand anything about critters.

susie


39 posted on 05/04/2005 6:30:22 AM PDT by brytlea (Yes, there are Republican teachers...)
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To: OESY
Well, I'm 34 and no fan of "South Park."

Too bad. We'll have to cancel our date, Michelle.

40 posted on 05/04/2005 6:30:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: OESY

I thinks it sad to watch so many FReepers pillory MM simply because she espouses a higher public communication etiquette. They did it yesterday on a similar thread and this one looks almost identical. They use the same tactics the leftists employ against those with which they disagree. All we need now is for Peach to come around and denounce the "Taliban" wing of conservatives and the duplication will be complete.


41 posted on 05/04/2005 6:31:04 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (To hell with Mexico, its policies, and its leaders)
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To: RushCrush

Game over man! Her poll numbers may plummet to 80% because of this! OH NO!! How will the president win his third term with this handicap?


42 posted on 05/04/2005 6:31:11 AM PDT by Righty_McRight
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To: brytlea

Because you can't milk ANYTHING that's male.


43 posted on 05/04/2005 6:31:25 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: brytlea
BTW can anyone explain to me why the horse being male is funnier than it being a female?

Because it's funny trying to watch them open beers and operate a remote with those big clumsy hoofs.

44 posted on 05/04/2005 6:31:37 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: RushCrush
It takes all kinds.
Actually, it doesn't TAKE all kinds, there just ARE all kinds! :) susie
45 posted on 05/04/2005 6:32:06 AM PDT by brytlea (Yes, there are Republican teachers...)
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To: OESY
Congratulations, Michelle. You've just "won" yourself one of these:


46 posted on 05/04/2005 6:32:12 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-G-d, PRO-LIFE..." -- FR founder Jim Robinson)
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To: OESY
The General is sorry to be informed that the foolish and wicked practice of profane cursing and swearing, a vice hitherto little known in our American Army is growing into fashion. He hopes that the officers will, by example as well as influence, endeavor to check it and that both they and the men will reflect that we can little hope of the blessing of Heaven on our army if we insult it by our impiety and folly. Added to this it is a vice so mean and low without any temptation that every man of sense and character detests and despises it.

--George Washington

47 posted on 05/04/2005 6:32:15 AM PDT by blues_guitarist (http://mundane-noodle.blogspot.com)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

LOL!!

Superb post.


48 posted on 05/04/2005 6:32:17 AM PDT by Skooz (Jesus Christ Set Me Free of Drug Addiction in 1985. Thank You, Lord.)
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To: OESY
This is my recent analysis of humor:

As you can see no where is there room for jokes about milking horses.

49 posted on 05/04/2005 6:32:28 AM PDT by woofie (I am so not kidding.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

So, anyone who does not worship at the altar of South Park and potty humor has no sense of humor? No one laughed before 1997?


50 posted on 05/04/2005 6:33:50 AM PDT by Skooz (Jesus Christ Set Me Free of Drug Addiction in 1985. Thank You, Lord.)
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