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STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION - BOYCOTT THE CENSUS & RNC FUND RAISING
4 May, 2005 | Self

Posted on 05/04/2005 9:09:08 AM PDT by 11th_VA

I just got a Census update in the mail from our local Gov't. They noted I was 'randomly selected' and was very important that I respond to their request. And if I didn't respond, they would do a follow-up.

Bring it on ...

I put in a note saying I WILL NOT provide any information about myself or family until the Gov't (local and national) takes substantive steps to curb illegal immigration.

I've had it folks. If I get anymore RNC fundraising letters I'm going to do the same.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; census; collectpesos; dumpthesenate; gopmajoritychickens; illegals; immigrantlist; moneytalks; nobordernomoney; not1moredime; nukeoption; sameasdems; saveussovereignty; saveyourmoney; securetheborder; stopgopdonations
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1 posted on 05/04/2005 9:09:09 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: HiJinx

Ping.


2 posted on 05/04/2005 9:10:28 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: 11th_VA
Wow breaking news.

Hillary though is probably joyful at your knee jerkedness.

3 posted on 05/04/2005 9:11:44 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: 11th_VA

Good for you. I sent back three fundraising pleas, with specific instructions to start governing like conservatives, or else they get no more money from me.


4 posted on 05/04/2005 9:12:28 AM PDT by rabidralph (My truck appreciates the rest of you driving fuel-efficient vehicles.)
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To: 11th_VA

will they get the message? If they do will they act on it?
There are too many agendas.


5 posted on 05/04/2005 9:13:22 AM PDT by capebuffalo
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To: Marine Inspector; HiJinx
Interesting MI, that you would ping, hijinx, for an anti-Republican rant.

Youz guys busy down in hillary's basement today?

6 posted on 05/04/2005 9:14:25 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: 11th_VA

If you live in a state with a lot of illegal immigrants, excluding yourself from the census could be a heroic act for the nation as a whole. Illegal immigrants prop up your state's population, trading-off with federal funding for other states that have a lower proportion of illegals.


7 posted on 05/04/2005 9:16:39 AM PDT by TFine80
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To: 11th_VA

I started doing the same thing last year. No more money from us.. they can get it from their *foreign* friends. If the Dems win in '06.. oh well. If there is no political price to pay for doing what they were elected to do, then we lose either way. No, I don't want Hillary, but if the GOP can't govern like a majority, then I don't want them on the payroll anyway.. They must pay a political price! SS isn't going to be there for me anyway, so why save it for illegals. I dont give a crap. Illegals are costing ME now. You too. So.. save your money, you'll need it later.


8 posted on 05/04/2005 9:18:06 AM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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To: Dane
whoa there, the pubbies are in charge of the executive and both houses of congress, if the boarder leaks like a sieve its the pubbies fault. You think we should subsidize this political parties dereliction of duty?
9 posted on 05/04/2005 9:18:44 AM PDT by aspiring.hillbilly
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To: aspiring.hillbilly
whoa there, the pubbies are in charge of the executive and both houses of congress, if the boarder leaks like a sieve its the pubbies fault. You think we should subsidize this political parties dereliction of duty?

And hillary would do what?(other than the pandering to you guys on FR, WND, and Newsmax, and lick up like sour milk).

I really get tired of the fringe right acting like the mainstream left on FR.

10 posted on 05/04/2005 9:22:31 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: 11th_VA

I probably got much the same (also in Virginia). They did send a follow-up. I went to the Enlish-Spanish translator web site and replied in Spanish. Nothing since.


11 posted on 05/04/2005 9:22:37 AM PDT by satan
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To: Dane

You're the only one who brought up hillary on this thread.


12 posted on 05/04/2005 9:24:07 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (To hell with Mexico, its policies, and its leaders)
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To: 11th_VA

I have never responded to a census and WILL never respond to a Census.

It's none of their damned business who or what lives in my house.


13 posted on 05/04/2005 9:24:11 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: 11th_VA
To date I have sent back almost 30 post-paid RNC & NRCC
envelopes with the word “JUDGES” scrawled across the
payment slip in red magic-marker.

Three more went this week.

Not one more dime!

14 posted on 05/04/2005 9:25:34 AM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
You're the only one who brought up hillary on this thread

Premptive action. You all are now scared to bring up her obvious pandering to you fringies.

15 posted on 05/04/2005 9:25:53 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: 11th_VA
Be ready to get out your checkbook to pay the fine the government will levy on you, or to pay your lawyer to fight the fine that you'll end up paying anyway.

Title 13, United States Code, Sec. 221.

Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers

(a) Whoever, being over eighteen years of age, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary, or by any other authorized officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorized officer, to answer, to the best of his knowledge, any of the questions on any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or survey provided for by subchapters I, II, IV, and V of chapter 5 of this title, applying to himself or to the family to which he belongs or is related, or to the farm or farms of which he or his family is the occupant, shall be fined not more than $100.

(b) Whoever, when answering questions described in subsection (a) of this section, and under the conditions or circumstances described in such subsection, willfully gives any answer that is false, shall be fined not more than $500.

(c) Notwithstanding any other provision of this title, no person shall be compelled to disclose information relative to his religious beliefs or to membership in a religious body.


16 posted on 05/04/2005 9:26:41 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Texas_Jarhead

He brings her up because he loves her.

Has to be the case, otherwise I can't see even speaking the woman's name.


17 posted on 05/04/2005 9:26:44 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: Dane

Missed the short bus to school again, eh?
I guess that alarm clock your mommie got you was for really big boys. Too hard for you.


18 posted on 05/04/2005 9:27:21 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (After your knees, the mind is the first thing to go.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
He(Dane) brings her up because he loves her(hillary).

Dude, get off whatever drugs you are doing, and notice my tagline that I've had for the last six months.

19 posted on 05/04/2005 9:28:51 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: 11th_VA
Title 13, Section 221 (Census, Refusal or neglect to answer questions; false answers) of the United States Code reads:
20 posted on 05/04/2005 9:28:59 AM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: 11th_VA

The chief architect of America's immigration or perhaps non-immigration from Europe policy is a Senator from Massachusetts. I'm sure withholding a check from RNC will really help to straighten out another mess left for Bush by several Democrat Presidents.


21 posted on 05/04/2005 9:29:30 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: Yo-Yo

The last time the census people came to my house, I let them count the rotties over their sholders as they raced for the gate.

They never came back to try and fine me.


22 posted on 05/04/2005 9:30:23 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (After your knees, the mind is the first thing to go.)
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To: Dane
Dude, get off whatever drugs you are doing, and notice my tagline that I've had for the last six months.

"Notice me" - Dane.

23 posted on 05/04/2005 9:34:34 AM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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To: 11th_VA

This is the only way to make elitist politicians wake up. Hit them where it hurts. Remind them of what they need to do FOR THE PEOPLE AND THE COUNTRY THAT PAYS THEIR BILLS.

My GOP donation requests are going back with 'JUDGES AND ILLEGALS'. FIX THE ISSUES.


24 posted on 05/04/2005 9:36:09 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: satan

ROFLOL !!! - I may do the same ..


25 posted on 05/04/2005 9:36:37 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: Yo-Yo
Be ready to get out your checkbook to pay the fine the government will levy on you, or to pay your lawyer to fight the fine that you'll end up paying anyway.

Technically yes, you can be fined for not cooperating with the Census.

But there are never any ACTUAL prosecutions of private citizens to do so. I can't guarantee there never will be but there aren't currently and I haven't seen any sign there will be.

There have been a handful of cases against companies and landlords running gated communities or apartment houses that do not allow Census workers access, that's it in terms of people being prosecuted.

If you don't send the form back, however, in about a month or so you'll be getting phone calls from the Census on a regular basis. Then the next month you'll have a series of people from the Census day after day coming by to attempt to do an interview with a laptop computer.

26 posted on 05/04/2005 9:36:47 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: aspiring.hillbilly
whoa there, the pubbies are in charge of the executive and both houses of congress, if the boarder leaks like a sieve its the pubbies fault. You think we should subsidize this political parties dereliction of duty?

If you elect the dems do you think that will fix the problem ? You have to look at the overall picture, the situation is not good but it could get a lot worse.
If Kerry was in charge we would probably be surrendering to Mexico.
If Hillary was in charge we would be turning over our military to the United Nations.
If Algore was in charge we would all be vegetarians farming by hand.

27 posted on 05/04/2005 9:37:02 AM PDT by oldbrowser (You lost the election.....get over it.)
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To: skeeter
"Notice me" - Dane

Sorry but right wing fringies(buchanan, farah, et al) are always looking for notice.

What would happen if no one listened to the right wing fringies, the left would lose.

28 posted on 05/04/2005 9:37:20 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: 11th_VA; JesseJane

Well done.


29 posted on 05/04/2005 9:38:01 AM PDT by lodwick (Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
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To: Yo-Yo
Be ready to get out your checkbook to pay the fine the government will levy on you, or to pay your lawyer to fight the fine that you'll end up paying anyway.

I'll bet those statues don't apply to illegal aliens ...

30 posted on 05/04/2005 9:38:15 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: Dane

Dane how do you feel about Congress establishing law that only citizens and those here legally get drivers liscenses. Things are kinda turning the other way don't you think Dane? Look for more it's coming. Tell those CA hispanic radio stations to put up a few more billboards to antagonize the average American and watch for the results.


31 posted on 05/04/2005 9:41:31 AM PDT by Sterco
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To: 11th_VA
I'll bet those statues don't apply to illegal aliens ...

Huh??? Dude, JMO, get over knee jerkedness. It does a body good.

32 posted on 05/04/2005 9:42:03 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: rabidralph
I sent back three fundraising pleas, with specific instructions to start governing like conservatives, or else they get no more money from me.

I did the same thing years ago.

33 posted on 05/04/2005 9:42:06 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: lodwick

Thanks lodwick.

I'm thinking of renouncing my citizenship for the free healthcare and tax savings./s


34 posted on 05/04/2005 9:42:35 AM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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To: TFine80
Illegal immigrants prop up your state's population, trading-off with federal funding for other states that have a lower proportion of illegals.

States with rising populations (and being illegal doesn't matter) have been known to gain representatives in Congress while others lose some. Do we want Reps in Congress who have a large illegal alien population as constituents?

35 posted on 05/04/2005 9:44:46 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Sterco; Travis McGee
Dane how do you feel about Congress establishing law that only citizens and those here legally get drivers liscenses. Things are kinda turning the other way don't you think Dane? Look for more it's coming. Tell those CA hispanic radio stations to put up a few more billboards to antagonize the average American and watch for the result

Uh, another knee jerker on FR, I'm all for it, but Ron Paul and his cultists on FR are against the "Real ID".

Sorry to disappoint but your Travis Mcgee hate Republican talking points have betrayed you. :^)

36 posted on 05/04/2005 9:45:28 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane; Marine Inspector
Youz guys busy down in hillary's basement today?

Yup...the wiring to the sump pump has been cut, the freezer is unplugged, we turned on the water to the wash basin and plugged the drain, we've opened the petcock on the heating oil tank...

Hey, MI, what else can we get done in Hellary's basement?

Ummm...Dane...you were trying to be funny, right?

37 posted on 05/04/2005 9:45:35 AM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation 4th of July ~)
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To: 11th_VA
I sent back my latest RNC fund-raising letter with a note saying not one more red cent from me until illegal immigration is addressed.
38 posted on 05/04/2005 9:46:01 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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To: 11th_VA

Hiliary is licking her chops.


39 posted on 05/04/2005 9:46:57 AM PDT by mowkeka
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To: HiJinx
Ummm...Dane...you were trying to be funny, right?

Nope, just pointing out the truth.

40 posted on 05/04/2005 9:47:21 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: skeeter

"Notice me" - Dane.

LOL!!!! How true.......


41 posted on 05/04/2005 9:49:52 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: 11th_VA

Is this the version where they ask all those inane nosy questions (above and beyond the Constitutional function of the census)?


42 posted on 05/04/2005 9:50:09 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


43 posted on 05/04/2005 9:50:51 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: 11th_VA

Its time to draw both like minded Republicans and Democrats together that are willing to stand up to the latino vote. If we can get members of both parties to not use this against each other for political purposes maybe they could then do something for the benefit of the american people. Which I think they forget that they were put in office for in the first place.


44 posted on 05/04/2005 9:51:08 AM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Leatherneck_MT
I have never responded to a census and WILL never respond to a Census.

It's none of their damned business who or what lives in my house.

Well you sure are making it hard on your relatives to do any genealogy on you in 100 years!

45 posted on 05/04/2005 9:51:53 AM PDT by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect our borders. FIRST, before any talk of "Amnesty.")
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To: satan

I like that idea. Find somewhere to write your comments & then demand a stop to Illegal Immigration in Spanish.


46 posted on 05/04/2005 9:52:08 AM PDT by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: No Amnistia by any name!)
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To: Dane

The only jerkedness around here is you . What is the deal with you? Are you married to an illegal or are you one yourself. you sure seem to love them and the lawlessness that goes with them. Or maybe you just make money expoiting them and don't want that to end. Which is?


47 posted on 05/04/2005 9:52:39 AM PDT by ACDSWIZ
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To: Yo-Yo
Whoever, being over eighteen years of age, refuses or willfully neglects, when requested by the Secretary, or by any other authorized officer or employee of the Department of Commerce or bureau or agency thereof acting under the instructions of the Secretary or authorized officer, to answer, to the best of his knowledge, any of the questions on any schedule submitted to him in connection with any census or survey yada yada yada....

Suffice it to say that "the best of my knowledge" includes knowledge of many of the loopholes and ambiguities in the English language, and the Bill Clinton was an amateur in this regard.

48 posted on 05/04/2005 9:52:50 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: Always Independent
Its time to draw both like minded Republicans and Democrats together that are willing to stand up to the latino vote.

this 'assumes' that a majority of the Latino vote wants illegal immigrants? I do think that this is a wrongful assumption. What we do need is a vocal latino group of voters who value their 'legal' citizenship over the 'illegal'.

49 posted on 05/04/2005 9:53:27 AM PDT by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect our borders. FIRST, before any talk of "Amnesty.")
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To: Dane

We may be fringies. But you are a moron. And a name calling race baiter.


50 posted on 05/04/2005 9:54:31 AM PDT by ACDSWIZ
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