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California Assemblyman (Haynes) Submits Initiative to Form "California Border Police"
Rescue California ^ | May 4, 2005

Posted on 05/04/2005 11:39:08 AM PDT by StoneColdGOP

SACRAMENTO, CA: California State Assemblyman Ray Haynes (R-Riverside County) will submit language to the Attorney General tomorrow for a landmark statewide initiative that would establish a separate state police force to patrol California’s international border. Known as the “California Border Police Initiative”, the measure is the first of its kind in the nation.

“The federal government has proven itself incapable of securing our borders, so it is time for Californians to step up and take matters into our own hands,” said Assemblyman Haynes. “This initiative establishes a separate and distinct state police force, much like the Highway Patrol, charged with enforcing immigration laws.”

In neighboring Arizona, private citizens known as the Minutemen are patrolling the borders. Under the proposal by Assemblyman Haynes, California’s new Border Police would be trained and sworn peace officers who would supplement the work of federal border agents. The initiative also allows for the construction of new jail and prison facilities dedicated to housing illegal aliens who are apprehended by the California Border Police before they are turned over to the federal government for deportation. The initiative will need just under 600,000 valid signatures to qualify for the ballot.

“With three million illegal aliens here already and thousands more crossing the border every month, California is ground zero when it comes to illegal immigration,” said Haynes. “Hospital emergency rooms are closing, other public services are being stretched to the breaking point and we have over 48,000 illegal aliens in our prisons. In addition, our loosely controlled border presents terrorists with an easy entry point into our state and country. We cannot wait any longer for the feds to get the job done. We need to police our own border now.”

In addition to submitting the language to the State Attorney General in preparation for a ballot measure campaign, Assemblyman Haynes is also introducing the measure as an Assembly Constitutional Amendment. The organization Rescue California, which gathered over 1.4 million signatures to recall Gray Davis in 2003, is preparing for a signature-gathering effort that would put the California Border Police Initiative on the June, 2006 ballot. A copy of the initiative along with a legal analysis of the state’s authority to enforce federal immigration law can be found at www.RescueCalifornia.com.


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Sounds like a good idea to me.
1 posted on 05/04/2005 11:39:09 AM PDT by StoneColdGOP
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To: StoneColdGOP
The federal government has proven itself incapable treasonously unwilling, although perfectly capable of securing our borders
2 posted on 05/04/2005 11:43:23 AM PDT by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us...)
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To: StoneColdGOP

I'll vote for this!


3 posted on 05/04/2005 11:44:01 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (Don't let them Bork Bolton!)
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To: HiJinx; gubamyster; B4Ranch; tame

fyi *ping*


4 posted on 05/04/2005 11:44:47 AM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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To: StoneColdGOP

BTTT!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 05/04/2005 11:44:52 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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To: StoneColdGOP

..my Assemblyman.

One of the few in CA with the right views.


6 posted on 05/04/2005 11:45:07 AM PDT by WalterSkinner
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To: StoneColdGOP; kellynla; dalereed; doug from upland; Amerigomag; Carry_Okie; farmfriend; ...

Uh... Any federal grants, or funding for this "crying, un-met need?"


7 posted on 05/04/2005 11:45:28 AM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: StoneColdGOP

Sounds like a good idea to me.
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Since the Federal government sees its politics, as well as Afghanistan and Iraq, more important than the integrity of the US, it is time something happen!!

I see one big gotcha coming up that the ACLU is probably slavering over, and that is distinction between Federal and State laws.


8 posted on 05/04/2005 11:45:42 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: StoneColdGOP
California Border Police Bump!

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
9 posted on 05/04/2005 11:46:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: StoneColdGOP

Either post the California National Guard on the border, or seed the border with a few million "bouncing betty" anti-personnel landmines and the border will be secure.

Use the California State Police (who now only guard the govenor and state buildings to round up the illegals and then send them to the feds for deportation.


10 posted on 05/04/2005 11:49:08 AM PDT by stumpy (M)
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To: EagleUSA
Oh! Don't worry!! A federale judge will slap this down in a New York Minute!!!

That's OK, however, as well have a blast making the "Big Government" federales look just exactly as stupid and out of sync with the People, as they are!!! (and even some employers who should know better, too)

11 posted on 05/04/2005 11:49:36 AM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: StoneColdGOP

Sounds like a good idea to me too. In fact disband the Federal progarm and use that money for the state program.


12 posted on 05/04/2005 11:50:31 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: StoneColdGOP

Maybe that will get W off the dime and do something about the border...
Although we don't have the money to pay for a state border police anyway. LOL

And of course, Ahnold does have the CA National Guard if he was reeeeeely concerned about the border...

It's time for the border states to send DC a bill for the costs of illegal aliens! hint, hint...

Sue the feds for NINE BILLION DOLLARS, Governor!


13 posted on 05/04/2005 11:50:53 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: StoneColdGOP
EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The organization Rescue California, which gathered over 1.4 million signatures to recall Gray Davis in 2003, is preparing for a signature-gathering effort that would put the California Border Police Initiative on the June, 2006 ballot. A copy of the initiative along with a legal analysis of the state’s authority to enforce federal immigration law can be found at www.RescueCalifornia.com.

Note to readers: Without SIGNIFICANT cross-over voting to recall Davis, it would not have been successful. D/L's for illegals was one of the top 3 motivators to recall Davis. Also, the recall of Gray Davis was the FIRST SUCCESSFUL recall in CA's history... Remember, by 2006, if the radical lobbyists have their way, illegals WILL BE VOTING. Soooooooooooo.. I'll be passing the word on this one.

14 posted on 05/04/2005 11:51:35 AM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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"as well have a blast" should have read "as we'll have a blast," obviously!!!


15 posted on 05/04/2005 11:51:53 AM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: kellynla

The Villagers are coming over the hill with Tar and Feathers...


16 posted on 05/04/2005 11:52:46 AM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide
BRING 'EM ON!!! (snart!)
17 posted on 05/04/2005 11:54:16 AM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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To: StoneColdGOP; HiJinx; B4Ranch; kellynla; janetgreen; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Sounds like a good idea to me.

I think this is awesome! I'm trying to cobble up some kind of ping list for this one :)

There is still hope for intelligent leadership in CA, people!

18 posted on 05/04/2005 11:57:37 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: StoneColdGOP

Way to go California.


19 posted on 05/04/2005 11:58:18 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: StoneColdGOP

Sounds like another big bureaucracy to me...pensions, benefits, union, etc.


20 posted on 05/04/2005 11:59:52 AM PDT by doctor noe
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To: kellynla
Although we don't have the money to pay for a state border police anyway. LOL

We will, if this goes through. We know why CA is broke, this will fix it, somewhat. Sorry about the ping. I should have known you'd be on this thread ;)

21 posted on 05/04/2005 12:02:32 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: doctor noe
Sounds like another big bureaucracy to me...pensions, benefits, union, etc.

It probably will be but it'll come down to being what's the lesser of two evils: that or massive budget deficits caused by illegal aliens.

22 posted on 05/04/2005 12:04:14 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: SierraWasp

Good luck! How about we use some of the several billion a year it costs us not to patrol the border?


23 posted on 05/04/2005 12:06:21 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

"Sorry about the ping. I should have known you'd be on this thread ;)"
No problemo...

"We will, if this goes through"
Hope springs eternal...


24 posted on 05/04/2005 12:07:50 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: StoneColdGOP

Parts of Riverside County now look like Tijuana Mexico. I'm glad this guy has noticed that.


25 posted on 05/04/2005 12:08:33 PM PDT by janetgreen (Minutman Project - American patriotism!)
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To: StoneColdGOP

26 posted on 05/04/2005 12:08:45 PM PDT by Irontank (Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under)
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To: kellynla

They should pay for this and for the failing hospitals by enforcing the laws and raising the fines on illegal employers.


27 posted on 05/04/2005 12:11:08 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: stumpy

"Either post the California National Guard on the border, or seed the border with a few million "bouncing betty" anti-personnel landmines and the border will be secure."

The state of California's control over the national guard is pretty limited. They National Guard can be called upon by the governor in certin situations, but they are a federal entity not a state entity.

The state has no standing army. All they have are the state police, or if their laws provide for it, they could have a state militia.

I'd like to see someone seriously suggest activating a state militia in CA just to see the liberal scream in horror.


28 posted on 05/04/2005 12:13:46 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: The Toll

well we all know what the tab is...
nine billion a year for California...


29 posted on 05/04/2005 12:15:51 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: doctor noe

Vs. what?....the illegal immigration bureaucracy that's full of social workers, welfare workers, gang intervention units, prison guards, bilingual teachers, emergency room doctors, etc. I would think that given a choice we'd be far better off with a state border patrol agency than all the other nonsense we're paying through the nose for right now.


31 posted on 05/04/2005 12:22:03 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: untrained skeptic
The state of California's control over the national guard is pretty limited. They National Guard can be called upon by the governor in certin situations, but they are a federal entity not a state entity.

True. Even if the Governor were to do the right thing and deploy the California National Guard to the Mexican border, the president could simply federalize them and sent them right back to their barracks.

The state has no standing army. All they have are the state police, or if their laws provide for it, they could have a state militia.

Actually, we do have a small, virtually unknown California State Military Reserve, primarily a land force but also with an air component, and plans to even add a naval militia.

California State Military Reserve.

32 posted on 05/04/2005 12:22:27 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP ("The Republican Party is the France of politics" - Laz)
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To: kellynla

They should consider a huge tax on spray paint and wifebeater t-shirts.


33 posted on 05/04/2005 12:22:52 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: StoneColdGOP

If this thread don't get pulled, it will suprise me.


34 posted on 05/04/2005 12:29:28 PM PDT by itsahoot (If Judge Greer can run America then I guess just about anyone with a spine could do the same.)
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To: StoneColdGOP; in the Arena; wardaddy; Spiff; Marine Inspector; Travis McGee; Dead Corpse; HiJinx

Ping*


35 posted on 05/04/2005 12:33:37 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: StoneColdGOP

"Actually, we do have a small, virtually unknown California State Military Reserve, primarily a land force but also with an air component, and plans to even add a naval militia."

Thanks for the information, I was unaware of that.


36 posted on 05/04/2005 12:37:29 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


37 posted on 05/04/2005 12:39:48 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: South40


Hey SoFo... this is good news, huh?


38 posted on 05/04/2005 12:42:10 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: StoneColdGOP

I'll vote for it.


39 posted on 05/04/2005 12:52:40 PM PDT by Regulator (Just Appeal 187. That would end all debates.)
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To: WalterSkinner

A good idea, but, it has a snowball's chance.


40 posted on 05/04/2005 12:54:32 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

I'll 'donate' $1000 to help get it started and I live in Nevada.


41 posted on 05/04/2005 1:00:40 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


42 posted on 05/04/2005 1:03:12 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: kellynla

There is always hope! Just think, jobs that Americans WILL do :)


43 posted on 05/04/2005 1:04:33 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: untrained skeptic
I'd like to see someone seriously suggest activating a state militia in CA just to see the liberal scream in horror.

Boxer and Pelosi's facelifts would rip at the seams. Bwaahahahahaha!

44 posted on 05/04/2005 1:07:22 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: StoneColdGOP

Appears California needs something like Texas. Although the Texas State Guard is voluntary it cannot be federalized. The Governor of Texas needs to expand the roll of the TSG to include border patrol since their duties also include "Homeland Security."

http://www.agd.state.tx.us/stateguard/


45 posted on 05/04/2005 1:09:43 PM PDT by politicalwit (USA...A Nation of Selective Law Enforcement.)
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To: StoneColdGOP

Whoa. I can't wait for the hysterical reaction to this one. Nativo Lopez might have a stroke.


46 posted on 05/04/2005 1:10:54 PM PDT by John Jorsett (email: mistersandiego yahoo.com (put the at sign in between those two))
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To: B4Ranch

That's the spirit :)This will benefit all the western states.


47 posted on 05/04/2005 1:11:04 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: StoneColdGOP
Haynes must be a bigot, anti immigration, Hispanic hating right winger--sarcasm. Great idea. I'll vote for it!
48 posted on 05/04/2005 1:13:47 PM PDT by Isabelle
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To: StoneColdGOP
Sounds like a good idea to me.

It does sound like a good idea, but where's the money going to come from?

"This initiative establishes a separate and distinct state police force, much like the Highway Patrol, charged with enforcing immigration laws."

The initiative also allows for the construction of new jail and prison facilities dedicated to housing illegal aliens who are apprehended by the California Border Police before they are turned over to the federal government for deportation.

49 posted on 05/04/2005 1:14:13 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: John Jorsett
Nativo Lopez might have a stroke.

Thereby proving that there's an up side to everything, eh?

50 posted on 05/04/2005 1:19:26 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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