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"the Southrons at this point will likely only be culturally cleansed through complete assimilation into the Yankee elite driven Northern culture."
As with all Americans and for that matter Canadians as well, assimilation is part of being an American and a Canadian. The best possible solution to fully counter the cult of neo-confedercy is educate the the children of the rebellious malcontented separatists, which by the way is no American. Some years ago due to the influx of many New Yorkers and others from the North, the Palm Beach to Miami Beach coast line was cleansed of backward redneck types that refused to live like normal human beings. Truck engines on the front lawn (mud) beer cans & trash all over the place has disappeared.
The only areas where this backward element still exists are remote relatively uncultured pockets for those who only desire to try and live as uncivilized as possible thrive. Time is not on their side. "This process has increased with the emigration of many Northerners into Atlanta in which the local dialect is quickly becoming a Northern one."
As far as I am concerned and all those I know the redneck accent is a sign of ignorance and in many case a self-inflicted put on by rebel types.
"A Southern poster had written a post mentioning the revival of the Southern Independence movement."
These trouble makers are un-American and traitors.
A poster immediately ridiculed him (just as you do to them now) noting that the war "was decided in 1865".
That should have alerted you that there is something radically unbalanced with neo-confederates hell bent on chopping up America since they lost not only the Civil War but have absolutely no power remaining from the illegal Jim Crow era of state mandated 'legal' segregation of fellow Americans. They make me sick along with the vast majority of Americans would agree that leftover hate consumed southern bigots have no place in the American republic.
"He responded by posting links to reports & articles which challenged that ignorant notion." Oh the reb did? Since you think as they do you love it.
"He pointed out that while the Confederate leadership surrendered: the Southern people did not surrender."
Are your 'Southern people' a new race? lol Give it a rest. What a lot of rubbish but what can be expected from those who love living in the past.
"Can you not see the degree to which you have been indoctrinated & thought controlled?"
You support a wacko cult of neo-confederates and have the nerve of speaking about others in terms of 'thought control' and being 'indoctrinated'? Look in the mirror first.
The more you ramble about being so pro-Southern I have to ask if you supported South Africa's former Apartheid system? Which by the way was identical to that of the South's segrigation prior to their state sponsored discrimination being forcefully ended in the 1960's.
"The Lincoln Cult is the real cult."
This is news lol. Are they in the phone book like the neo-confederate cults?
I stated to you 'Recall which side surrendered?'
You come back with this? "This is another fallacy you Northerners have not dealt with."
What history books are you reading. The North beat the Southern insurrectionists during the Civil War and everyone except you knows it, but you do. I suppose the Nazis & Japan really did not surrender in 1945 as well?
"The Yankee perspective is pervasive in American publications"
By 'Yankee' the term is 'American' in relation to anti-American Southern rebels. Which was correct and shall continue being so.
"The fact is that you seem even more vociferous in your rhetoric than the anti-South lefties I have encountered in the past."
Once again ultra-tipical of neo-confederates to attempt to tag all those exposing their true goals as commie leftists. It's one of many Big Lies Southern secessionists push. Myself being a conservative Republican identifies which those involved in the link provided below.
Lincoln-Reagan Freedom Foundation
There is a book listed in that link detailing the roots of the GOP and the book also addresses the threat from neo-confederates to the Republican Party's image and the best methods of exposing and ridding the GOP of this undesirable problem.
I asked "Why didn't you say you were a Canadian citizen?"
You respond with this incredible reply. "Because as I just pointed out: it is a loaded & complicated question."
What is complicated about saying 'yes' or 'no'?
"The Yankee perspective is pervasive in American publications."
The real American perspective will continue being the right overview.
"Remember: the Vermont Sovereignty Project is not a Sothron affair, so what say you against them? Are they a bunch of "neo" something or other as well?"
Vermont politics is unfortunately dominated by extreme left wing types. Burlington Vermont is overun with radical hippie leftovers from the 1960's. The state U.S. Representive is the only declared elected Socialist in America and may very well become the Green Mountain State's next U.S. Senator. I have lived in Vermont and although the spectacular scenery is similar to that of the Eastern Townships with it's lush mountain greenness, dairy farms, maple & birch trees, decent roads, the left leaning political climate and high taxes are no my idea of something that should be duplicated, anywhere.
This is not to say all Vermonter's are ultra liberal for the state does have it's share of conservatives but not enough to regain power.
"Many pro separatist Quebecers are familiar with the South's struggle for independence: And many in fact fly the Confederate Battle Flag. I kid you not. I know a number of friends who hang this flag on their walls."
I was speaking of the Anglophile Québecers. I do believe you in this respect due to the fact many of the PQ sepertists are of a similar mind set as the neo-confederates. I would not like to see Canada cut in half and hope you would not either.
Do these French Québecers realize that the neo-confederates carry a lot of adverse baggage in the minds of Americans aware of their existence, such as segregation and it's originating leaders fought to maintain slavery in the South and if the Confederates had been able to gain victory over Washington had plans to expand slavery in states they were forbidden some 5 to 10 years prior to the Civil War in the Midwestern states such as Kansas.
I will read the bio on Piet Joubert & the links on the Boers, since I too find the history of South Africa of interest and have South African friends who have relocated to America to live. We have discussed the historical imergrant issues as well.
"Well considering that you make the exact same points against secession as the progressives / communists do I thought that by linking to one of your fellow travelers would do well to make my point."
Talk about "issuing ad hominem attacks>"
I have no idea what communists have to say on cleaning out the GOP of neo-confederates trouble makers, nor do I care what they have to say, since they don't count.
"I am more of a Northerner than you but at least I am not a Yankee or Federalist parrot."
Northern in geographics only since you have adopted something else which is not in the least 'northern. A 'Yankee' fine sounds good to me and a 'Federalist parrot', well there you go again with silly, meaningless, unfounded barbs.
"Just as soon as you are deprogrammed from the mind control & indoctrination of the Lincoln Cult."
Good greif, where do you get this nonsense? Your labeling 95% plus of the American people who would not agree with the neo-confederate secessionist movement. Hundreds of millions of Americans are "programmed from the mind control & indoctrination of the Lincoln Cult" because you say so based on your overviews written by those still fighting for the confederate side of the Civil War? Think prior to typing.
You have again slandered the overwhelming bulk of Americans, again. In you eyes any Americans which is not a card carrying modern day, raving, Lost Cause Confederate must be brainwashed and programmed in addition to worshiping the 2 term 16 President of the United States, who was shot from behind by a Confederate traitor?
"In Canada the Yankee equivalents are known as: Federalists or sometimes just Ottawa."
Those sound like everday normal Canadians who want to hold Canada together. They sound fine to me.
"I even voted No to separation in the 1995 referendum -even actively campaigned for the No / Federalist cause (ah the ignorance of youth) but next time I am thinking about simply abstaining from the whole thing."
'Abstaining' allows someone else to decide for the vote you forfeit. Be grateful you have the right to vote in free elections. In some areas of the world people would beg to be able to vote in real elections. Look at North Korea, Cuba, Iran and other totalitarian states where all the power is totally dictated by a select few. When citizens of free nations make the free choice not to vote they open the doors for changes they may strongly disagree with later on.
"That is total nonsense. Secession does not cause chaos nor disorder, but prevents those things from happening by stemming the chaotic State. Secession is not "aimed" at the "Union" either. This is loaded rhetoric."
Total nonsense? Review the disorder, chaos, death and destruction caused by the Southern insurrectionists after they attacked Federal forts and United States Navy ships. What did you expect the Federal government to do, send messages of congratulation to the Confederate traitors? A full scale rebellion was underway due to the fact the Southern political power base lost their control of the While House. There is no rhetoric involved in what I am stating simply historical fact. The Southern pro-slavery senators would reduce themselves to cheering on a fellow pro-slavery senator from South Carolina while he attempted to murder a Massachusetts senator who voiced his opinions against slavery. This is the mentality of the lynch mob. An election is not won so the Southern elite instigate mob violence and were not satisfied until the dragged the country into a horrible civil war, with horrific loss of life and wide spread destruction. You really need to remember the root causes of why the masters of the Cotton Empire thought they could pull off a continuation of a slave based economy.
Victory over the Slave Empire
The most troubling aspect of your recent post was not so much the usual lies (which is also disturbing) but your erie & tacit defense of the Yankee oppressors. The Northerners have got to start renouncing them if they want to have any hope in restoring the freedom that they have usurped from the average citizens. The fact that you would even assert that Yankee values were American values was most disturbing & illustrates how much of their kool aid that you must have consumed. Their ingratiation to American soceity seems only explainable through carefully executed propaganda capaigns & media manipulation culminating in mind control.
As with all Americans and for that matter Canadians as well, assimilation is part of being an American and a Canadian.
Now this is getting into some real complicated territory here. It is not as simple as you are attempting to suggest. For one thing: why the hell should the Southern people even be expected to assimilate into the Northern culture when the fact of the matter is that the Southern people & culture are older than the Northern people & culture. This expectation is not just -to say the least. Remember: no one expects Quebec to assimilate into English Canada (though there have been attempts in the past) while you seem to expect the Southern people to assimilate into Northern culture. The Southern people are an internationally recognized people. There is a French book at my local library on the "peoples of North America" which on the cover has the flags of Quebec / Canada / the USA & the Confederate Battle Flag.
The Confederate Battle Flag resembles & is based on the Saint Andrew's Cross used in the Scottish flag as many of the ancestors of the Southrons (including some Black Southrons) were from Scotland. Whereas the early ancestors of Northerners who arrived in the North (after the ancestors of the Southrons) were Anglo-Saxons.
The Anglo-Saxons had a long history of repressing the Celtic peoples & brought this tradition with them when they arrived in North America.
The best possible solution to fully counter the cult of neo-confedercy is educate the the children of the rebellious malcontented separatists,
Good grief! So many fallacies in just one sentence. The so called Neo Confederates are simply Sothern nationalists who are using the the political & Constitutional process in their pursuit of self determination. The so called malcontented separatists are no different than the malcontented separatists who seceded from Britain in 1776. The malcontented separatists of 1776 were noted as slave drivers as well so using this slogan in an attempt at denying the Southrons the same right to self determination is just plain specious.
which by the way is no American.
Talk about cognitive dissonance. Malcontented separation which lead to an American Confederation was the founding principle of the very country in which you live. What is not American is the notion that the people do not have the right to decide for themselves the manner of dispensation that they wish to live under.
Some years ago due to the influx of many New Yorkers and others from the North, the Palm Beach to Miami Beach coast line was cleansed of backward redneck types that refused to live like normal human beings.
Good grief! How is this mindset any different from the Nazis who thought of the Jews, Gypsies & others in shockingly similar fashion. This is some shocking candor on your part.
Truck engines on the front lawn (mud) beer cans & trash all over the place has disappeared.
There are folks who are untidy in all cultures, but to infer that this is a unique or even exclusive trait to Southerners is dishonest to say the least.
The only areas where this backward element still exists are remote relatively uncultured pockets for those who only desire to try and live as uncivilized as possible thrive. Time is not on their side.
Good lord it is astounding to hear you sound just the Nazis. At the risk of sounding like a John Mellencamp song: What right do you have in dictating how people should live? Though in fairness to impoverished people: many people do not even have the same opportunities in living or attaining a more civilized life.
As far as I am concerned and all those I know the redneck accent is a sign of ignorance
Well this just about sums up your own ignorance. Here you are inferring that anyone who speaks with a Southern accent or the Soutron dialect are all "ignorants". This is precisely the ignorant & mean spirited stereotype that you Northerners project about Southerners. The Southern accent is more than just an accent: it is a dialect with its own homegrown lexicon.
and in many case a self-inflicted put on by rebel types.
????? This is beginning to sound conspiratorial.
These trouble makers are un-American and traitors.
How in the world can your fellow Americans be un-American & traitors. To what are they being traitors to? Some Yankee elite notion of unbridled hegemonic Statism? These Southerners are actually living up the founding American notion of liberty & self determination.
That should have alerted you that there is something radically unbalanced with neo-confederates hell bent on chopping up America
Once again: they are not intent on chopping up something that never even existed until Lincoln came along & created it by force. Back then most Americans even & especially those in the North believed in the right the states to secession. Would you rather that the Southern people simply submit to an oppressor culture & allow their culture & dialect be purged from their own landscape? How is this any different from the behaviour of early Americans towards the Amerindians? Cultural genocide can & should never be justified.
since they lost not only the Civil War but have absolutely no power remaining from the illegal Jim Crow era of state mandated 'legal' segregation of fellow Americans.
Wait a second here. The (actually legal) Jim Crow era of state mandated segregation was initially imposed by the North during Reconstruction.
They make me sick along with the vast majority of Americans would agree that leftover hate consumed southern bigots have no place in the American republic.
Good grief more demagoguery again. There are far more hate consumed Northern bigots then there ever were in the South. For one thing: there are many modern Black Southrons who are also fighting at setting the record straight & struggling for the self determination of Dixie.
The following are a few images of Black Southrons past & present.
You support a wacko cult of neo-confederates
What I support is the right to self determination. No matter how much obfuscating & distorting language you use: nothing can deter from the fact that the real issue here is the right of a people (& peoples) to the inherent natural of right of self determination.
and have the nerve of speaking about others in terms of 'thought control' and being 'indoctrinated'? Look in the mirror first.
I did just that beginning in 1997. This is the point. I too was once indoctrinated with the static & one dimensional mindset that you are still inflicted with. Though I think you probably really know better & are simply a shill for these Yankee oppressors because you have erroneously based your identity on theirs & have liked your survival to theirs. I looked in the mirror & realized that I (along with everyone else who believes the Statist's lies) was being used as a pawn by our ruling elites to act as a "guard dog" for their Empire & repression of the peoples therein. I realized that they had a virtual monopoly on the dissemination of information & have been historically colouring events & skewing history so as to manufacture a version of events most conducive towards the maintenance of their hegemonic empire of control.
This is why they wrote a history of the war in which the subjugated South were labeled the "bad guys" while the brutal tyrants of the North were labeled the "heroic" side. This was done so that anytime a Southron nationalist -or anyone else for that matter- attempted to argue for or defend the inherent right to self determination or secession -the indoctrinated people would unthinkingly as a bloc act as the "guard dogs" of the ruling elite by barking at the Southern (or other) nationalists parroting the lies which have been conveniently taught to them through government schools.
Now it is clear that you continue to choose to hold the water & act as a guard dog for a ruling elite which is threatened by any rolling back of their carefully constructed empire / macro State. Now you may even want to continue to live under this fascist /communist (there is really not much of a difference) paradigm, but the problem I have is that you do not have the right to tell others how they must live. If an individual or group of people do not wish to continue to live under this oppressive paradigm: then it is their inherent right to strive for & take actions which can lead to their greater self determnation.
The more you ramble about being so pro-Southern
I am not pro Southern simply for the sake of being pro Southern. I am pro self determination. Just as I am not anti Northern. Just anti Statist.
I have to ask if you supported South Africa's former Apartheid system?
Not in the least. The system was a complete disaster & did not even do what is what advertised or supposed to do: namely sort out the disaster left from British colonialism by creating independent nation states. Instead the Apartheid policies quickly evolved into a type of race based cast system as the true problem was the creation of the macro State of South Africa itself. The British colonial leaders created the macro State known as South Africa which placed all of the conquered peoples under a common administration for the first time. The South African State is an artificial unnatural creation. Which is nothing short of a mini-empire which still to this day only serves an elect elite while the various peoples are subjugated. Before the British began increasing their hegemony in the region & conquered the Boer Republics along with the numerous Black nations & Kingdoms previously: there had existed a balance of power (after the Difiqane that is) among the various nations & Kingdoms in the region.
Furthermore: Apartheid was not merely a system as really a series of laws which were first created by the British colonial regimes at the Cape. Apartheid was adapted from the policies used on the British dominated gold mines of the Johannesburg region as a result of the large influx of Outlanders (both black & white) into the region.
When the Afrikaner nationalist government came to power in 1948 -without receiving the popular vote (history repeats itself: USA: 2000 Quebec: 1998)- they did not create Apartheid: they simply expanded & built on over existing segregationist laws. The laws were simply temed Apartheid during the 1930s as many of those pushing for the stronger more cohesive segregationist laws were speakers of the Afrikaans language.
The main architect of Apartheid (post 1940s) was Hendrik Verwoerd: a native of Holland who emigrated to the South African region with his parents when he was 3 or 4. He formulated Grand Apartheid (differentiated from Petty Apartheid) which envisioned the complete independence of the various Bantu related homelands. This was doomed to fail as the problem was that many of the homelands (with the notable exception of the Transkei) were not viable nor contiguous. The other even more pressing problem was that South Africa's economy was never segregated as many Black people migrated to the cities in search of employment as there was little in the designated homelands after their traditional way of life had been disrupted by European colonialism.
Oddly enough Prime Minister Verwoerd was assassinated on the eve of normalizing relations with Lesotho on September 6 1966. Some have speculated that this was the beginning of the end of Apartheid. The laws were relaxed begining in the 1970s through out the 1980s culminating in the abolition of the 3 biggest laws which were considered the pillars of Apartheid on June 17 1991.
Note: Lesotho was & is an internationally recognized state which gained its independence from Britain in 1966. It was not one of the nomenclatured "homelands" within South Africa. Just to avoid confusion.
Verwoerd Assassination.
On 6 September, 1966, an air of expectancy hung over Parliament. Three days earlier, Dr Verwoerd had held historic talks with the Prime Minister of Lesotho, Chief Leabua Johnathon, at the Union Buildings in Pretoria. It was the first meeting on South African soil between the premier of South Africa and the leader of a black state. Following the meeting, a joint communique was issued by the two governments with special emphasison co-operation without interference in each others' internal affairs. Against this background, the South African Prime Minister was expected to make an important policy statement at the parliamentary session on 6 September.
Verwoerd Assassination.
At any rate the whole Apartheid era was somewhat before my time. The Apartheid laws were abolished in 1991 when I was 19. Not only did it prove brutal & folly to even have such a series of expansive laws but it made the government run by a minority responsible for all the peoples within the artificial borders of the macro State. Pointing out the inherent oppressiveness of macro States.
Which by the way was identical to that of the South's segrigation prior to their state sponsored discrimination being forcefully ended in the 1960's.
Though the Apartheid laws of South Africa were also based in large part on the Canadian Indian Affairs Act. I find it most interesting how the South's segregation was originated by the North & how South African Apartheid was originated by the British colonial regimes. It is almost as if the North & the British gave the blue print of racist laws to their subjugated peoples so they could later use the disaster of the implementation of said laws to justify their later re-intervention into the concerned regions.
This is news lol. Are they in the phone book like the neo-confederate cults?
The Lincoln Cult is simply more pervasive & mainstream.
The North beat the Southern (people)
The point is that the actual Southern people did not surrender.
By 'Yankee' the term is 'American' in relation to anti-American Southern rebels.
Wrong. The Yankees are most un-American. The Yankees are your oppressors & ruling class elite who enrich themselves on the backs of your near slave labour. They originated from New England slowly conquering the North before instigating a war against the Southrons. Never confuse the term Yankee with American.
The Yankee Problem in America. By Yankee I do not mean everybody from north of the Potomac and Ohio. Lots of them have always been good folks. The firemen who died in the World Trade Center on September 11 were Americans. The politicians and TV personalities who stood around telling us what we are to think about it are Yankees. I am using the term historically to designate that peculiar ethnic group descended from New Englanders, who can be easily recognized by their arrogance, hypocrisy, greed, lack of congeniality, and penchant for ordering other people around. Puritans long ago abandoned anything that might be good in their religion but have never given up the notion that they are the chosen saints whose mission is to make America, and the world, into the perfection of their own image.
Hillary Rodham Clinton, raised a Northern Methodist in Chicago, is a museum-quality specimen of the Yankee – self-righteous, ruthless, and self-aggrandizing. Northern Methodism and Chicago were both, in their formative periods, hotbeds of abolitionist, high tariff Black Republicanism. The Yankee temperament, it should be noted, makes a neat fit with the Stalinism that was brought into the Deep North by later immigrants.
The ethnic division between Yankees and other Americans goes back to earliest colonial times. Up until the War for Southern Independence, Southerners were considered to be the American mainstream and Yankees were considered to be the "peculiar" people. Because of a long campaign of cultural imperialism and the successful military imperialism engineered by the Yankees, the South, since the war, has been considered the problem, the deviation from the true American norm. Historians have made an industry of explaining why the South is different (and evil, for that which defies the "American" as now established, is by definition evil). Is the South different because of slavery? white supremacy? the climate? pellagra? illiteracy? poverty? guilt? defeat? Celtic wildness rather than Anglo-Saxon sobriety?
Right into the war, Northerners opposed to the conquest of the South blamed the conflict on fanatical New Englanders out for power and plunder, not on the good Americans in the South who had been provoked beyond bearing.
Many people, and not only in the South, thought that Southerners, according to their nature, had been loyal to the Union, had served it, fought and sacrificed for it as long as they could. New Englanders, according to their nature, had always been grasping for themselves while proclaiming their righteousness and superiority.
The Yankees succeeded so well, by the long cultural war described in these volumes, and by the North’s military victory, that there was no longer a Yankee problem. Now the Yankee was America and the South was the problem. America, the Yankee version, was all that was normal and right and good. Southerners understood who had won the war (not Northerners, though they had shed a lot of blood, but the accursed Yankees.) With some justification they began to regard all Northerners as Yankees, even the hordes of foreigners who had been hired to wear the blue.
Once Southerners had gone into the Union (which a number of wise statesmen like Patrick Henry and George Mason warned them against), the Yankees began to show how they regarded the new federal government: as an instrument to be used for their own purposes. Southerners long continued to view the Union as a vehicle for mutual cooperation, as they often naively still do.
In 1789, a Connecticut Puritan preacher named Jedidiah Morse published the first book of American Geography. The trouble was, it was not an American geography but a Yankee geography. Most of the book was taken up with describing the virtues of New England. Once you got west of the Hudson River, as Morse saw it and conveyed to the world’s reading public, the U.S. was a benighted land inhabited by lazy, dirty Scotch-Irish and Germans in the Middle States and lazy, morally depraved Southerners, corrupted and enervated by slavery. New Englanders were pure Anglo-Saxons with all virtues. The rest of the Americans were questionable people of lower or mongrel ancestry. The theme of New Englanders as pure Anglo-Saxons continued right down through the 20th century. The alleged saints of American equality operated on a theory of their racial superiority. While Catholics and Jews were, in the South, accepted and loyal Southerners, Yankees burned down convents and banished Jews from the Union Army lines.
As the books show, Yankees after the War of 1812 were acutely aware of their minority status. And here is the important point: they launched a deliberate campaign to take over control of the idea of "America."
The people that Cooper and Irving had despised as interlopers now controlled New York! The Yankees could now carry a majority in the North and in 1860 elect the first sectional president in U.S. history – a threat to the South to knuckle under or else. In time, even the despised Irish Catholics began to think like Yankees.
It was in this milieu that abolitionism, as opposed to the antislavery sentiment shared by many Americans, including Southerners, had its origins. Abolitionism, despite what has been said later, was not based on sympathy for the black people nor on an ideal of natural rights. It was based on the hysterical conviction that Southern slaveholders were evil sinners who stood in the way of fulfillment of America’s divine mission to establish Heaven on Earth. It was not the Union that our Southern forefathers seceded from, but the deadly combination of Yankee greed and righteousness.
General Richard Taylor, in one of the best Confederate memoirs, Destruction and Reconstruction, related what happened as he surrendered the last Confederate troops east of the Mississippi in 1865. A German, wearing the uniform of a Yankee general and speaking in heavily accented English, lectured him that now that the war was over, Southerners would be taught "the true American principles." Taylor replied, sardonically, that he regretted that his grandfather, an officer in the Revolution, and his father, President of the United States, had not passed on to him true American principles. Yankeeism was triumphant.
Clyde Wilson.
I would strongly advise that your read the whole article as it will enlighten you as to who these Yankees are & why you should stop defending their oppression & repression.
Once again ultra-tipical of neo-confederates to attempt to tag all those exposing their true goals as commie leftists.
Well the fact of the matter is that the Yankee notion of conquering independent countries & brutally repressing secession is right out of the Soviet Union & their similar centralizing behaviour. The centralization of power & the pointing of guns at peoples heads in order to enforce its decrees is characteristically a commie left-wing & fascist notion.
There is a book listed in that link detailing the roots of the GOP and the book also addresses the threat from neo-confederates to the Republican Party's image and the best methods of exposing and ridding the GOP of this undesirable problem.
More purging again. Does it not bother you in the least that you idolize Lincoln: a war criminal whom Clinton also idolizes? Do you not realize that Lincoln was the Milosevic of his day? Both Lincoln & Milosevic sacrificed national minorities for the sake of a unified macro state.
Furthermore: Are you aware that the plagiarist Senator Joe Biden also likes to rail about Neo Confederates? Are you comfortable with being on the same page as someone like Joe Biden?
According to your criteria of what constitutes a Neo Confederate: both John Ashcroft & Gale Norton could be termed Neo Confederates & Joe Biden publicly asserted as much during their confirmation hearings. Also: the neo punk band NOFX seem to think that President Bush is an out right Confederate or redneck despite the fact that as Governor of Texas he ordered the removal of Confederate symbols from the state Capitol.
The real American perspective will continue being the right overview.
The Yankees have never represented the real American perspective. They are usurpers / oligarchs & manipulaters. The fact that you shill for these oppressors is nothing short of disturbing.
I was speaking of the Anglophile Québecers.
That should be Anglophone.
| The Yankees have never represented the real American perspective. They are usurpers / oligarchs & manipulaters. The fact that you shill for these oppressors is nothing short of disturbing. |
I do believe you in this respect due to the fact many of the PQ sepertists are of a similar mind set as the neo-confederates.
But what are they? Neo Canadiens? Remember the French Canadians of Quebec are the original Canadiens. Until a bunch of English speaking British subjects began usurping the name & calling themselves Canadians. The Montreal Canadiens hockey team is named after the Canadiens of the 1600s & 1700s.
I would not like to see Canada cut in half and hope you would not either.
The fact of the matter is that Canada was once " cut in half" before. During the 1700s & 1800s Ontario was known as Upper Canada & Quebec was known as Lower Canada.
Do these French Québecers realize that the neo-confederates carry a lot of adverse baggage in the minds of Americans aware of their existence, such as segregation and it's originating leaders fought to maintain slavery in the South
Segregation was practiced in the North long before they transplanted the practice to the South.
if the Confederates had been able to gain victory over Washington
The Confederates had no plans to control Washington. Furthermore: by 1863 it was clear that had the CSA won the war that slavery would have ended even sooner than it was.
Northern in geographics only since you have adopted something else which is not in the least 'northern.
All I have adopted is essentially the right of self determination. A notion which is echoed in parts of Newfoundland (which was dubiously admitted to Canada as a province among serious controversy) as well as Alberta & the western provinces.
A 'Yankee' fine sounds good to me and a 'Federalist parrot',
Federalists & Yankees are the political & oligarchal manifestations of the ruling elite who have the most to gain from the macro State / empires that they have created while the people are manipulated into being their slaves through their unquestioning service to the States in question.
well there you go again with silly, meaningless, unfounded barbs.
The fact of the matter is that you are indeed a Yankee & Federalist parrot as you are acting as a "guard dog" on their behalf against those who wish to extricate themselves from their cultural & political oppression.
because you say so based on your overviews written by those still fighting for the confederate side of the Civil War?
Well it is much larger than the views of the Southern nationalists. Remember: there are Amerindians who are not enamoured with the notion of a perpetual Union. A Union which they had virtually no say in its creation in the first place.
You have again slandered the overwhelming bulk of Americans, again.
Not Americans. Just Statists who think that the principles of America's founding can be discarded & that might make right. The Americans in the North are also victims of the Yankee elite, but many do not recognize it as much as they are not as culturally distinct as the Southrons therefore do not always feel the heavy hand of their control as much.
In you eyes any Americans which is not a card carrying modern day, raving, Lost Cause Confederate must be brainwashed and programmed
Anyone who reveres a theology which counters the founding principles of their country has clearly been brainwashed against their true heritage.
in addition to worshiping the 2 term 16 President of the United States, who was shot from behind by a Confederate traitor?
Well Lincoln was the traitor himself when he decided to violate the Constitution / jail dissenters & launch a war onto the CSA.
Those sound like everyday normal Canadians who want to hold Canada together.
The question though is for whose benefit. It is certainly not for the benefit of the people.
Canadian Yankees.
Civil War" is at best a misleading name for that conflict. Many Southerners avoid using it because of the implication that there were factions in every locality. "Civil" means "relating to the people within a community." The term describes only one aspect of the event, and subtly discredits Southerners defending home and country, rather than fomenting a political coup. The typical Southern community was not divided at all. Dixie was that community, and the consensus in Dixie was to defy strangers and meddlers from the North who insisted on ruling and intended to invade. The typical Southerner fought for independence. There were (and still are) more differences between Yankees and Southerners than between Yankees and English-speaking Canadians.
Restraints on the central government are as necessary to protect us from tyranny as the balance between the executive, legislative, and judicial branches. The limits are proportional to the power retained by the states, because the states are the only entities capable of enforcing meaningful restraint upon the federal government. Although they originally delegated limited power to that government, it has usurped all the power. That usurpation became unstoppable after the South lost, because the tenth amendment became a dead letter, and all the states lost. The possibility of secession was the only deterrent sufficient to guarantee states the sovereignty necessary to hold the central power accountable.
Canadian Yankees.
'Abstaining' allows someone else to decide for the vote you forfeit. Be grateful you have the right to vote in free elections. In some areas of the world people would beg to be able to vote in real elections. Look at North Korea, Cuba, Iran and other totalitarian states where all the power is totally dictated by a select few. When citizens of free nations make the free choice not to vote they open the doors for changes they may strongly disagree with later on.
There are those who would assert that the notion of free & fair elections is an illusion & a ruse.
Total nonsense? Review the disorder, chaos, death and destruction caused by the Southern insurrectionists after they attacked Federal forts and United States Navy ships.
First of all: it was the North which provoked the "attack". Next: it was no longer a "federal fort". Did you expect the Confederates to simply let Lincoln built up his military strength in the seceded states so that when fighting finally occurred that the Confederates would not have had even the chance they did.
I find it interesting that you speak of "buzz words" while employing the term Neo Confederate: which is a buzz word in itself.
I also find it most interesting how the most racist Neo Confederate group the Council of Conservative Citizens is actually most against secession.
There was no "slave empire" except if you are talking about the slave empire that Lincoln set up.
Now if there is anything than you can come away with from this post is this: the Yankees are not true to American valuese & are not your friends. The North should stop associating with them / electing them & adopting their policies & world views. The influence of this dangerous ruling elite has been corrupting to American principles.