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Balkan 'Auschwitz' haunts Croatia
bbc.co.uk ^ | Monday, 25 April, 2005, 17:03 GMT 18:03 UK | BBC

Posted on 05/05/2005 10:25:27 AM PDT by Destro

Last Updated: Monday, 25 April, 2005, 17:03 GMT 18:03 UK

Balkan 'Auschwitz' haunts Croatia

Survivors of a World War II death camp have been mourning the victims of Croatia's Nazi puppet regime. As the BBC's Nick Hawton and Marko Kovac report, war crimes committed long before the atrocities of the 1990s still haunt Croatia as it seeks EU membership.

The atrocities at Jasenovac shocked even the Nazis

In the vast open field, on the banks of the Sava River, the survivors came to pay their respects.

Sixty years ago, this was the scene of some of the worst atrocities of World War II.

The Jasenovac death camp came to be known as "the Auschwitz of the Balkans".

Even the Nazis were shocked by what happened here. Today's survivors glance at the point on the river where so many of their friends and colleagues were brutally murdered.

To their left is the huge concrete monument, shaped into the petals of an opening flower, in honour of the dead.

Some people have tears in their eyes. Many carry flowers. Everyone has their own memories.

"I was arrested because my parents were partisans fighting the fascist regime," says 69-year old Serb Slavko Milanovic.

"My mother had to hide me in bed sheets every morning because Ustasha were separating children and taking them away."

Many of the children were murdered.

Hitler ally

Jasenovac was run by the Croatian Fascist Ustasha allied to Adolf Hitler.

Their victims were Serbs, Jews, Gypsies and Croats opposed the regime.

"There was a brick factory in the camp. It had a big oven that would be heated up and people were thrown in alive." says Slavko.

"They would dig graves, put prisoners in and then hit them with hammers until they died. Concrete was then poured over."

At the commemoration, survivors and their families listen to anniversary speeches by politicians and organisers.

But their minds take them far away from this place - to World War II and those who died as victims of the cruel regime.

No one really knows how many died here. Serbs talk of 700,000. Most estimates put the figure nearer 100,000.

In the post-war communist years, investigations into such crimes were forbidden. The regime did not want to rock the delicate stability of the new Yugoslavia.

"It is very important that we teach our children values that can prevent this catastrophe happening again," says Croatian Prime Minister Ivo Sanader to the hundreds gathered.

"The victory of anti-fascism over fascism is a victory for values which are threaded into modern Europe and modern Croatia."

And it is modern Croatia that is very much on Mr Sanader's mind.

EU accession

This week, Croatia will try to reignite its attempts to join the European Union, at meetings with EU officials in Luxembourg.

In March, accession talks were put on hold because the EU believed modern Croatia was not doing all it could to hand over a general wanted for war crimes during the 1990s.

General Ante Gotovina has been on the run for years. The EU believes Croatia could do more to find him.

But while some people are having trouble resolving modern war crimes, for others it is the old war crimes that prey on their minds.

Croat Simo Klaic, 80, spent three years at Jasenovac in 1942-45.

Today, like every anniversary, he is here to remember his friends who died in the camp.

"This should never, ever happen again - anywhere," he says.

"And let's remember, during the 1940s, there were people who just did not know what the Ustasha were doing here.

"But then there were also those who did know what was being done here - and did nothing," he says.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 1941; balkans; bosnian; coats; croatia; deathcamps; holocaust; jewish; nazis; serbs; ss; ustasha; yugoslavia
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To: Joey Silvera
"Monty's upset that you dared to post photos depicting Serbian Chetniks cavorting with Nazi officers...and pictures don't lie"

Well, evidently Mr. Monty has a problem with reporting facts. All sides, Serbs, Croats, Slovenes, Montenegrins, Macedonians & Bosnians, in the multi-ethnic Balkan portion of World War Two had their pro-Axis sell-outs and if Mr. Monty refuses to egknowledge that fact he is not in favour of honest historical reporting, especially photo-documentation.

I am not pushing any particular side, just the facts. In 2005 if all 'peacekeeping troops' were withdrawn from the former Yugoslavia the various side would be right back were they started - fighting like it was 1912, 1914, 1941 or 1991!


41 posted on 06/30/2005 2:08:56 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola

Pictures do lie, would you agree or not?


42 posted on 07/02/2005 2:57:46 PM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: M. Espinola

I doubt the "Croatian rescuer" photo went over particularly well, either...


43 posted on 07/02/2005 4:37:59 PM PDT by Joey Silvera
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To: montyspython

The "you're/your" thing is incorrect grammar, not a typographical error. I just found it ironic that you combined that with an accusation of intellectual dishonesty. That's funny, any way you slice it.


44 posted on 07/02/2005 4:45:19 PM PDT by Joey Silvera
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To: montyspython

Just busting your balls a little, too. Relax.


45 posted on 07/02/2005 4:49:16 PM PDT by Joey Silvera
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To: ma bell
"Pictures do lie, would you agree or not?"

Are there any pictures I posted on this thread dealing with Yugoslavia during WWII which you consider a 'lie'?

Winston Churchill had called the situation in Yugoslavia "a tragedy within a tragedy."

It remains so today in 2005

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46 posted on 07/02/2005 5:41:59 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Joey Silvera
I doubt the "Croatian rescuer" photo went over particularly well, either...

That might very well be part of his problem.

Monty's has a definite Yugoslav side he backs 100%, and considers all those on that side to be saints above committing war crimes. It does not function like that in the real world of the Balkans.

47 posted on 07/02/2005 5:48:24 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola; Joey Silvera

Do you agree that pictures do lie or they tell the truth of that story from that still photograph? They lie or tell the truth, please?


48 posted on 07/03/2005 10:36:50 AM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: Cacique

Ping!


49 posted on 07/03/2005 10:42:16 AM PDT by Clemenza (Frylock is my Homeboy)
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To: ma bell

I asked you a question, there was no response.


50 posted on 07/03/2005 10:55:18 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola
You have yet complied and avoided answering my question as i will respond upon your compliance.
51 posted on 07/03/2005 1:03:54 PM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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