Skip to comments.Gang follows illegal aliens
Posted on 05/05/2005 10:58:26 AM PDT by JZelle
The violent MS-13 -- or Mara Salvatrucha -- street gang is following the migratory routes of illegal aliens across the country, FBI officials say, calling the Salvadoran gang the new American mafia. MS-13, which has a significant presence in the Washington area, and other gangs are spreading into small towns and suburbs by following illegal aliens seeking work in places such as Providence, R.I., and the Carolinas, FBI task force director Robert Clifford said. "The migrant moves and the gang follows," said Mr. Clifford, director of the agency's MS-13 National Gang Task Force. "If you follow the construction trade, this is where a lot of these immigrants go."
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Gee...right under the gubmints nose.
From what Ive read about MS-13, you could easily mistake their actions for those of the islamokazis. MS-13 just doesn't praise allah when they hack someones head off.
Nobody knows, and our President and AG don't care.
You are right. MS-13 is BAAAAADDD news. They were all Salvadoran death squad members, most of them killed their first person before they were teens. They are utterly remorseless, ruthless killers.
They have close-cropped hair and gothic lettered spanish tatoos along the top of the shoulder blades at the base of the neck. Of course, there are many people fitting this description who are not MS-13. Just check the eyes, then. No soul? MS-13.
Also, it's not unusual to find whole families as gang members. The parents expressing pride in the illegal activities of their children.
"Also, it's not unusual to find whole families as gang members"
hmmm, resembles some of our political families!!!
Without secure borders and enforce immigration laws homeland security is a farce!
Hey, I'm all for closing up the borders, but the death squad is just a bit much.
What's a few more bucks, eh?
Immigrants Illegal aliens in search of construction and meat-packing jobs often provide housing for younger relatives who may be involved in a gang...
Four MS-13 members are on trial ... on charges of killing a pregnant 17-year-old.
Three MS-13 gang members pleaded guilty to attacking a teenager in Alexandria with a machete last May. The teenager lost four fingers.
Authorities are investigating a similar machete attack on a Fairfax man in January.
In 2002, 20 MS-13 members from Los Angeles traveled to Northern Virginia because they were "upset with the local MS-13 gang because a Fairfax County police officer has not been killed."
... the Mafia killed 1,111 persons from 1919 to 2004 [85 years]...
street gangs killed 1,276 persons from 2000 to last year [4 years].
Social Change by managed and incremental crisis
It's gonna be a lovely NWO
Back in 2000 when I was a deputy prosecutor, I went to a gang conference. That's where I first heard of MS-13, and at that time they were primarily based in gang-infested L.A. where even there they stood out for their love of wanton, brutal killing for its own sake.
One of the cops showed a slide of the scene of an MS-13 killing. They blew a guy's brains out while he was sitting in the barber shop chair; blood spatter everywhere. The very grisled police veteran called this a "bad hair day."
Sadly, I believe you've hit the nail on the head.
Just wait 'til the ACLU weighs in on their right to kill anyone they please.
Order out of chaos.
in Los Angeles we are told one of the initiation rites is to kill a random stranger. Similiar to happy slapping in England but with a little more finality
That YOU know of..
"in Los Angeles we are told one of the initiation rites is to kill a random stranger. Similiar to happy slapping in England but with a little more finality"
Do they use that headlight trick or is that just an urban legend?
The Freeper stories and experiences are priceless. Nice story.
yes, and the government will try their best to hide the stats on crime by illegals. O'Reilly (whom I don't usually care for that much) has been good on immigration. Last night he had someone who worked with Aschroft ?sp? The guy stated that 1 in 5 people in Federal prison is an illegal. What I found astounding, was that he stated that nationwide 1/3 of all incarcerated people are illegals. If that is true, then the immigration problem is much worse than stated.
good, maybe the ruling class will finally take action (dreaming, I know). I don't know if this is correct, but I thought I remember some report on TV stating that there are over 50,000 MS-13 gang members nationwide.
these MS13 bangers should be shot on sight , no mercy , just rid humanity of this blight in the gene pool....
I heard that too. Protection from crime is one of the few legitimate functions of government -- and it does that task quite poorly. I fear the coming years will be quite tumultuous in this land. The immigration problem will accelerate to a crisis that will rip at the core of this Republic. I pray we have the fortitude to do the right thing and seal out borders and expel all illegals. Our culture, our values, our very existence will be at risk because our so called leaders cannot face reality and do the right damn thing.
That would be true justice, but the evil ACLU would get their panties in a wad. I can imagine that in the offices of the ACLU there are smiles at the violence of the gangs, cheers at the increasing flood of immigrants and shouts of joy every time an brave American soldier is killed fighting terrorism. The enemies within our land pose a much greater threat to the survival of this Republic than any enemy outside our borders.
Social Change by managed and incremental crisis"
You nailed it but there ain't nobody listening.
Do you remember the story as of last year where in Nicaragua a prison was set on fire and many prisoners were BarBQ. I believe 150 prisoners died.
I think those prisoners were MS-13 Members.
That happens in other Countries, I can't ever see it happening in the States. Here in the states we love freedom and in turn innocent law abiding citizens get victimized and in some case victimized twice.
What I can't resolve for myself is, how can we sit here and make victims out to be victimized twice. Once by the criminal and the second time by the Justice system that can bePro Criminal. It's a tough situation but I'd love to hear your thought.
The difficulty is in Subjective calls by Judges on technicalities, corrupt Policing and even dealing with the Pro Criminal Lobby - The Mumia Lobby.
Insanity, Mr. President!
But, they're only here to do the jobs on one wants to do, is that what we keep hearing? Who in their right mind believes that anymore?
"They were all Salvadoran death squad members, most of them killed their first person before they were teens."
Where did you find this tid bit of mis-information.
"Do they use that headlight trick or is that just an urban legend?"
Normally I trust Snopes and the article makes a good case for the hoax-ness of the headlight trick, BUT, fore-armed is fore-armed!
I'm gettin' FIREFOX now.
Protection from crime....a legitimate function of government??????
If anyone is counting on government to protect them,from criminality, they are barking up a strange tree. EVERY oath taken by government officials has a paraphrase of "support/protect and defend the constitution" in it. If one is relying on police to defend one, better check out "DIAL 911 and DIE." It shows that LE is not LIABLE and has no duty to protect individuals. Two states only have situations where LE "malpractice" is litigatable in court.
Best bet is to acquier the means/tools of self-defense, train like a pro, and always have at least the outline of a plan.
Bleek, pessimistic outlook? Maybe, but more in line with ground truth than relying on government.
Nah!!There are small towns in the US that wont put up with it. Get the vigilantes, bring a rope and find a tree.
I live in a town of around 200 people. There are probably twice that many guns in town. Anyone who tries to launch a killing spree around here will be identified by their DNA because there won't be enough left to identify by sight.
Thank Prohibition for this mafia. We'll solve this problem when we end the drug war, just like we solved the last mafia problem by ending alcohol prohibition.
There are small towns in the US that wont put up with it. Get the vigilantes, bring a rope and find a tree.
do it , don't just talk about it
Swimmin' wit da fishies...
I rest my case.
One worker was injured during the effort by a coaxial cable unwisely inserted.
LOL, I knew right when I pressed Post, that I picked a very poor choice of words. I agree, the last thing any rational person should do is depend on the government for protection from criminals. I admires the Founders approach to government. First and foremost they wanted self-government. Jefferson expressed why we have government at all, It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all." Government is suppose to do collectively what we are allowed individually and no more. We have a right to protect our lives, property and loved ones from danger. The government is failing us in so many ways, one of the most by not securing the borders, thereby allowing criminal scum to cross our borders and terrorize our citizens.
what I was thinking after the Post was that if government has a proper role, most would agree it is the Courts and related functions. I must add, that aspect of government is inefficient and highly corrupt, like most other aspects of government.
We'll solve this problem when the general populace really decides it's time to do something about it and puts down their infatuation with their fantasy worlds. Not until.
The Minutemen were the first stirrings of a groundswell. There will be more, many more. Eventually, there will likely be widespread looting and murderous crimes against innocent citizens by these gangs. This will slowly be followed by tattooed gang-bangers mysteriously hanging from lampposts.
When the government starts realizing it is losing control of it's monopoly on force, then it will get serious - but only serious only about stopping the unsanctioned elimination of the bad guys by "vigilantes", who they think pose a greater threat to them than the gangs.
This is very unlikely to end either quietly or well unless somebody very powerful and influential in our government has the vision to act decisively and soon.
Sure, drug money fuels the gangs, but so can widespread crime. Legalizing drugs will not stop these criminals. They will only find another source for money, and there is plenty in America to loot - unlike their home countries.
MS-13 or Democrats. Wait, is there a difference?