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FDA to Ban Gay Sperm Donors
Foxnews ^ | May 05, 2005 | AP

Posted on 05/05/2005 2:56:21 PM PDT by Last Dakotan

To the dismay of gay-rights activists, the Food and Drug Administration (search) is about to implement new rules recommending that any man who has engaged in homosexual sex in the previous five years be barred from serving as an anonymous sperm donor...

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But... how will they reproduce?
1 posted on 05/05/2005 2:56:35 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan

More importantly, how will they verify?


2 posted on 05/05/2005 2:57:42 PM PDT by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: Last Dakotan

How will will know? Look at your anus for torn, inflamed tissue?


3 posted on 05/05/2005 2:59:07 PM PDT by hillary's_fat_a**
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To: Last Dakotan

Makes sense to me. It's a group at high risk of having HIV.


4 posted on 05/05/2005 2:59:10 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: Last Dakotan

It is not like the gay liberals are prone to tell the truth, so it is kind of pointless.


5 posted on 05/05/2005 2:59:10 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Last Dakotan

Awesome!


6 posted on 05/05/2005 2:59:35 PM PDT by risk
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To: hillary's_fat_a**

You are gross...


7 posted on 05/05/2005 2:59:38 PM PDT by Dog ( Premier news hound and proud member of FR's Pajama News Service...winner of several Buckeye awards.)
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To: Last Dakotan
RAT ALERT: MAJOR VOTE OPPORTUNITY LOSS,Better alert Jesse, Reverend Al, Howard Dean, Kate Michaelson, Hitlary, Barney Frank...
8 posted on 05/05/2005 3:00:04 PM PDT by CT CONSERVATIVE (Fight Crime: Shoot Back)
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To: ken5050
More importantly, how will they verify?

There are scientific methods. The most accurate is to check if they are wearing designer shoes.

9 posted on 05/05/2005 3:00:31 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: ken5050
More importantly, how will they verify?

Probably the same way blood banks do. Bore you to death with endless questions.

10 posted on 05/05/2005 3:03:43 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: ken5050
More importantly, how will they verify?

They'll show the potential donor pics of Tom Cruise and Anna Kournikova and measure the physiological responses....

11 posted on 05/05/2005 3:10:28 PM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball!)
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To: Last Dakotan
Commen sense,
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2003 Surveillance Report  |   Home   |   Index   |   Search   |   Site Map   |   Subscribe

Table 17. Reported AIDS cases, by age category, transmission category, and sex, cumulative through 2003—United States

Males Females Total



Cumulative Cumulative Cumulative
2003 through 2003a 2003 through 2003a 2003 through 2003a






Transmission category No. % No. % No. % No. % No. % No. %

Adult or adolescent  
Male-to-male sexual contact 15,859 48 401,392 55 – – – – 15,859 35 401,392 45
Injection drug use 4,866 15 156,575 21 2,262 20 61,621 38 7,128 16 218,196 24
Male-to-male sexual contact
     and injection drug use
1,695 5 57,998 8 – – – – 1,695 4 57,998 6
Hemophilia/coagulation disorder 74 0 5,130 1 11 0 318 0 85 0 5,448 1
Heterosexual contact 3,371 10 40,947 6 5,234 45 70,200 43 8,605 19 111,147 12
  Sex with injection drug user 477 1 10,930 1 985 9 24,148 15 1,462 3 35,078 4
  Sex with bisexual male 0 0 0 0 223 2 4,402 3 223 0 4,402 0
  Sex with person with
     hemophilia
7 0 80 0 16 0 465 0 23 0 545 0
  Sex with HIV-infected
     transfusion recipient
24 0 505 0 37 0 705 0 61 0 1,210 0
  Sex with HIV-infected person,
     risk factor not specified
2,863 9 29,432 4 3,973 34 40,480 25 6,836 15 69,912 8
Receipt of blood transfusion,
     blood components, or
     tissueb
111 0 5,219 1 108 1 4,076 2 219 0 9,295 1
Other/risk factor not reported
     or identifiedc
7,274 22 62,217 9 3,946 34 27,181 17 11,220 25 89,399 10
Subtotal 33,250 100 729,478 100 11,561 100 163,396 100 44,811 100 892,875 100
Child <13 yrs at diagnosis)
Hemophilia/coagulation disorder 0 0 227 5 0 0 7 0 0 0 234 3
Mother with the following risk
     factor for, or documented,
     HIV infection:
61 87 4,232 88 70 85 4,317 95 131 86 8,549 91
  Injection drug use 6 9 1,643 34 11 13 1,645 36 17 11 3,288 35
  Sex with injection drug user 8 11 784 16 6 7 741 16 14 9 1,525 16
  Sex with bisexual male 0 0 95 2 2 2 102 2 2 1 197 2
  Sex with person with
     hemophilia
1 1 21 0 0 0 15 0 1 1 36 0
  Sex with HIV-infected
     transfusion recipient
0 0 11 0 0 0 16 0 0 0 27 0
  Sex with HIV-infected person,
     risk factor not specified
18 26 705 15 18 22 737 16 36 24 1,442 15
  Receipt of blood transfusion,
     blood components, or
     tissueb
0 0 73 2 0 0 83 2 0 0 156 2
  Has HIV infection, risk
     factor notspecified
28 40 900 19 33 40 978 21 61 40 1,878 20
Receipt of blood transfusion,
     blood components, or tissue
1 1 244 5 1 1 143 3 2 1 387 4
Other/risk factor not reported
     or identifiedd
8 11 80 2 11 13 98 2 19 13 178 2
Subtotal 70 100 4,783 100 82 100 4,565 100 152 100 9,348 100
Total 33,320 100 734,261 100 11,643 100 167,961 100 44,963 100 902,223 100

a Includes persons with a diagnosis of AIDS, reported from the beginning of the epidemic through 2003. Cumulative total includes 1 person of unknown sex.
b AIDS developed in 46 adults/adolescents and 3 children after they received blood that had tested negative for HIV antibodies. AIDS developed in 14 additional adults after they received tissue, organs, or artificial insemination from HIV-infected donors. Four of the 14 received tissue or organs from a donor who was negative for HIV antibody at the time of donation.
c Includes 36 adults/adolescents who were exposed to HIV-infected blood, body fluids, or concentrated virus in health care, laboratory, or household settings, as supported by seroconversion, epidemiologic, and/or laboratory evidence. One person was infected after intentional inoculation with HIV-infected blood. For an additional 361 persons who acquired HIV infection perinatally, AIDS was diagnosed after age 13. These 361 persons are tabulated under the adult/adolescent, not the pediatric, transmission category.
d Includes 5 children who were exposed to HIV-infected blood as supported by seroconversion, epidemiologic, and/or laboratory evidence: 1 child was infected after intentional inoculation with HIV-infected blood and 4 children were exposed to HIV-infected blood in a household setting. Of the 178 children, 23 had sexual contact with an adult with or at high risk for HIV infection.

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Last Updated : March 8, 2005
Centers for Disease Control & Prevention
National Center for HIV, STD, and TB Prevention
Divisions of HIV/AIDS Prevention
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12 posted on 05/05/2005 3:11:33 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: Always Right
There are scientific methods. The most accurate is to check if they are wearing designer shoes.
13 posted on 05/05/2005 3:12:30 PM PDT by CT CONSERVATIVE (Fight Crime: Shoot Back)
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To: Dog
You are gross...

Sorry, but inspection of the anus is a foolproof way to determine if a foreign body has been inserted. If you know of another method to detect this, let us all know ....

14 posted on 05/05/2005 3:13:31 PM PDT by hillary's_fat_a**
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To: Last Dakotan
It is likely to affect some lesbian couples who want a child and prefer to use a gay man's sperm for artificial insemination.

and they hope to gain, what?

15 posted on 05/05/2005 3:14:19 PM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: mdittmar

So it looks like 75% of Aids cases still come for gay sex and drug use.


16 posted on 05/05/2005 3:16:14 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: sure_fine
It is likely to affect some lesbian couples who want a child and prefer to use a gay man's sperm for artificial insemination. and they hope to gain, what?

Perhaps a transvestite who likes other transvestites.

17 posted on 05/05/2005 3:18:02 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: sure_fine

They hope to grow more fruits. Why would any gay person want to have a straight child? They want to grow their own fruits.


18 posted on 05/05/2005 3:18:13 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Last Dakotan

Two years ago, Iw as giving blood at out local community blood drive..at the firehouse..always a festive affair, everyone pitching in..and it's all out in the open, in the one big common room..so "privacy" is lacking....so, I'm at a desk being asked the usual questions pertaining to my sexual practices and health sytatus, when I realized that sitting across the room from me, waiting to donate, were 6 nuns in habits..


19 posted on 05/05/2005 3:21:47 PM PDT by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: colorado tanker

yea but HIV is transmitted through blood not sperm


20 posted on 05/05/2005 3:22:43 PM PDT by Ignatius J Reilly
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To: Always Right

87% is the result of lifestyle decisions,but let's throw more money at it.


21 posted on 05/05/2005 3:24:13 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: freebilly

Using that standard I'd be asexual. :)


22 posted on 05/05/2005 3:26:06 PM PDT by Killborn (Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger --> Pope Benedict XVI: God bless and keep him. May he reign in greatness.)
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To: mdittmar
87% is the result of lifestyle decisions,but let's throw more money at it.

And the obvious action of teaching the dangers of gay sex is out of the question.

23 posted on 05/05/2005 3:26:20 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Last Dakotan

AIDS has been transmitted by sperm to mothers and children. This is basic public health procedure, which of course enrages the evil queer mafia.


24 posted on 05/05/2005 3:26:21 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: ken5050

maybe log cabin republicans could donate their services and use their "gay-dar" to out suspicious donors.


25 posted on 05/05/2005 3:28:58 PM PDT by mindwasp
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To: Ignatius J Reilly
yea but HIV is transmitted through blood not sperm

Currently, 15 women are known to have been infected with HIV via artificial insemination using sperm from anonymous donors: one in Germany,(58) two in Italy,(59) four in Australia,(60) two in Canada,(61) and six in the United States.(61,62) All but one of these cases of insemination-related infection occurred before the availability of HIV antibody testing. Another woman was infected after insemination with processed sperm from her HIV-seropositive hemophiliac husband.(63) These reports demonstrate that HIV transmission can occur after the use of fresh, cryopreserved, or processed sperm. Both intrauterine insemination and cervical insemination can result in HIV transmission.

http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/InSite?page=kb-07-02-09#S7X

26 posted on 05/05/2005 3:30:09 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: CT CONSERVATIVE

Those are rock climbing shoes...

They help you stick to the walls.


27 posted on 05/05/2005 3:30:52 PM PDT by agooga (The Kyoto Protocol will lower global temperature by .07 degrees.)
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To: Last Dakotan

I guess my question is, why would a gay man feel the need to "spread his seed." Isn't that an urge of the hetero male?


28 posted on 05/05/2005 3:31:58 PM PDT by agooga (The Kyoto Protocol will lower global temperature by .07 degrees.)
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To: colorado tanker

Thanks for the info!


29 posted on 05/05/2005 3:33:03 PM PDT by Ignatius J Reilly
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To: Last Dakotan

30 posted on 05/05/2005 3:36:12 PM PDT by SquirrelKing
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To: Ignatius J Reilly

You're welcome. Having been through the infertility wringer, I know a lot more about this stuff than I ever wanted to.


31 posted on 05/05/2005 3:38:06 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: Last Dakotan

While I'm not an advocate that homosexuality is genetic, in this case it might be prudent to ban them from polluting the gene pool further, just in case I'm wrong.


32 posted on 05/05/2005 3:38:53 PM PDT by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: Last Dakotan

why did the FDA wait till now to decide?


33 posted on 05/05/2005 3:41:45 PM PDT by isom35
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To: Last Dakotan

OMG!!! What an outrageous violation of their constitutional right to donate sperm!!! We live in a nazi/hitler/police state under the BushHitler regime. Oh the humanity!!!! (sarcasm intended)


34 posted on 05/05/2005 3:48:49 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: agooga

I don't think you can gauge any of the urges of gay males by noral hetero standards.


35 posted on 05/05/2005 3:58:33 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan

They have been known to lie in the past to private organizations with the very same restriction in order to propogate themselves.


36 posted on 05/05/2005 4:03:24 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Hard to change your ID when it's "admin")
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To: Last Dakotan

Sure you can... they are the same as any other type of sex offender - nearly unredeemable even in the best of circumstances, human beings who have enslaved themselves to their own sexual urges, regardless of the results.


37 posted on 05/05/2005 4:04:45 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Hard to change your ID when it's "admin")
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To: Last Dakotan

Next thing you know they won't let em make withdrawls from the sperm bank either......


38 posted on 05/05/2005 4:13:37 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Killborn
Using that standard I'd be asexual. :)

No Kournikova? I take it you're holding out for Helen Thomas....

39 posted on 05/05/2005 4:20:25 PM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball!)
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To: Last Dakotan
Why don't they just make tests for AIDS and VD mandatory before donating?

BTW, anyone got any pics from that Beavis and Butthead episode where they go to the sperm bank?

40 posted on 05/05/2005 4:20:27 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is not conservative!)
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To: colorado tanker

However, there are IVF procedures which eliminate this risk, and are being offered specifically to couples where the man is HIV positive. I don't know all the technical details, but I believe in addition to some extra processing they use ICSI (intra-cytoplasmic sperm injection).

I don't really see the point in the ban, as long as the sexual history is disclosed to the buyers of the sperm. As it stands now, I think the reputable sperm banks exclude gay men already, and also ask about number of female partners, and disclose the answer to that question to potential buyers. As long as disclosure is the rule, no ban is needed, since the banks only want the most saleable sperm.

I'm concerned about the FDA getting deeper into regulating things like this. It's just going to make things more difficult and expensive for everyone. Another part of the recent FDA proposals is to require much more extensive testing of embryo donors, incurring significant additional expense and inconvenience to couples who want to make any excess embryos they may create, available for adoption. Many couples, already faced with tremendous expense and stress dealing with their own infertility issues, will decide not to take the extra steps required to make their embryos legal to donate for adoption (i.e. they'll be forced by government regulation to have their embryos either discarded or donated for research, even it they would much prefer to donate them for adoption).


41 posted on 05/05/2005 4:29:12 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: freebilly

Dear Lord...

I'm not into girl ogling and don't have a real affinity for pretty girls. I'm mainly attracted to girls if I like them as a girlfriend. I think other people may be similar to me.

So to get a better reading, print a picture of two guys doing the nasty. Confronted with that picture, I, and any other red-blooded straight man, will have a visceral reaction that will leave me lying on the floor helpless and babling/droling like an idiot. Such would be the trauma.

Gays, otoh, will react positively to such a picture.

Which brings me to this question: Which is worse? Fag love or Helen "Buffalo" Thomas?


42 posted on 05/05/2005 4:29:44 PM PDT by Killborn (...the horror... ...the horror...)
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To: festus
Next thing you know they won't let em make withdrawls from the sperm bank either......

I've always wanted to sponsor a billboard in front of a sperm bank that says, "DO YOU REALLY WANT YOUR SONS TO BE RAISED BY LESBIANS?"

43 posted on 05/05/2005 4:33:42 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: RightWingAtheist

Those tests are already mandatory, and are quite sufficient IMO. In addition, the major sperm banks do extensive genetic testing, as well as taking the health history of the donor and his siblings, parents, aunts, uncles, and grandparents, and have reputations to protect, as they are associated with fertility-related medical institutions. Also a lot of education and employment information is gathered. Sperm from donors who are physically or personally deficient doesn't sell well, and there's no shortage of sane, stable, healthy men willing to donate (actually sell, since they get paid for it).

Sure, there are some fly-by-night sperm banks that don't do much screening of their donors. But given the low cost of sperm from the most reputable banks (usually $200-300 per vial) the kind of people who would use the fly-by-night banks are probably sleeping around with lots of virtual strangers anyway, and catching something from donor sperm is the least of their risks.

This is one more thing the government should stay out of.


44 posted on 05/05/2005 4:38:38 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
There is a process to treat sperm from HIV positive donors. Frankly, I can't imagine anyone other than a married couple with a positive husband taking that risk, however, no matter how slight it might be.

I ordinarily agree with your anti-regulatory sentiments. I can tell you from experience, however, that infertility is a huge emotional rollercoaster and that most couples going through it are not in a position to act like intelligent consumers.

45 posted on 05/05/2005 4:40:30 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: RightWingAtheist

LOL!

"MEGADETH"


46 posted on 05/05/2005 4:50:51 PM PDT by Killborn (I'll think of something...)
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To: Last Dakotan

So whats the going rate for a billboard and do you know of any in front of any banks ?

That sounds like fun. Maybe we should all take up a collection for it ;-)


47 posted on 05/05/2005 4:55:05 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Killborn
>>Which is worse? Fag love or Helen "Buffalo" Thomas?<<

After being on the same flight with the Buffalo last week, and seeing her in the same black dress and pearls she ALWAYS wears, and wearing bright white tennis shoes and nibbling like a rat on some candy she had in a bag. . .I'd say it's pretty much a close call.

Just thinking for a moment about the Buffalo in that context makes my "Mr. Happy" darn near become an "innie."
48 posted on 05/05/2005 4:59:04 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: Last Dakotan

EXCEPT, if you're an illegal criminal Mexican wetback who snuck across the border in the dark of the night. Then, be sure to buy the fairy matricula card at the Mexican consulate. It is red, white, green and pink. With such a card, if they turn you down, it is racial profiling!


49 posted on 05/05/2005 5:01:30 PM PDT by Tacis ( SEAL THE FRIGGEN BORDER!!!)
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To: FormerACLUmember

It must be because it's been mixed with their saliva before they spit it into the test tube.


50 posted on 05/05/2005 5:12:14 PM PDT by etwgmdn
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