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Rush Limbaugh: Clinton/Cisneros Cover-Up Fails
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 5/5/05 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 05/05/2005 6:02:29 PM PDT by wagglebee

This goes back maybe two weeks ago. There was an attempt in a piece of Senate legislation to shelve forever a scandal involving the IRS and Henry Cisneros and a number of other things. Well, enough attention was called to this that it has failed, the effort to cover it up has failed. (story) "A Senate rider inserted in an emergency appropriations bill in the dead of the night, which would close a rare window into political foul play at the Internal Revenue Service, was quietly removed Tuesday in Senate-House negotiations. That offers full disclosure of a major scandal that has been percolating for a decade. The rider would have de-funded the investigation begun in 1995 of then-Housing Secretary Henry Cisneros by Independent Counsel David Barrett. The amendment was sponsored by three highly influential Democrats, purportedly to stop leakage of federal money in a run-on program and end persecution of a no-longer-prominent Democratic politician. In fact, Barrett's investigation is the first independent probe, with subpoena power, of the IRS... The report, described as 400 pages long with over 2,000 footnotes, is sealed by court order. So are Barrett's lips. But enough has leaked from sources familiar with its content to suggest political dynamite. Sources indicate an IRS whistle-blower contends the tax fraud investigation was transferred from a regional office to Washington, where the IRS and the Justice Department suffocated it. That raises the question of whether Cisneros, then a rising Democratic star, was improperly protected by Clinton administration officials." By the way, this might also involve Mrs. Clinton. "The investigation has been so protracted because of delaying motions by the Williams & Connolly firm, attorneys for Bill and Hillary Clinton. These lawyers, headed by David Kendall, are described as poring over the sealed Barrett report, according to sources, because clients are named."

This is a report that could really damage ten or so, maybe even more, members of the Clinton administration. We talked about this a couple weeks ago. A couple Democrats, including John Kerry, were trying to squelch this by defunding it, by putting it in another piece of Senate legislation. The word leaked out that this was happening, Tony Snow wrote a column about it, we talked about it on this program, enough attention was brought to bear, the effort to bury this report and to defund it has failed. Now, it's still under seal, but the likelihood is there will be a report made public on this at some point and that means that there are people cowering in fear and quivering in the corners even as we speak. This is a real under-the-cover effort here, folks, to try to get this investigation quashed, or the report quashed, and they came close. They came very, very, very close to doing this. That, too, I predict is going to be a story, how they almost got this investigation totally quashed, defunded, and therefore buried.

I want to clarify one thing. Senator Kennedy was not part of the Democrat effort to quash the bill. It was Senator Byron Dorgan. "Sen. Byron Dorgan, Senate Democratic Policy Committee chairman, in the middle of a long floor speech on April 5, gave notice he would try to amend the emergency money bill 'to shut off the funding' for Barrett. Dorgan was the amendment's principal sponsor. Co-sponsors were Sen. Richard Durbin, the minority whip, and Sen. John Kerry, the 2004 nominee for president." So it was Dorgan, Durbin, and Kerry that attempted to get this investigation buried.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: billclinton; cisneros; clinton; clintonistas; coverup; dittoheads; henrycisneros; hillary; hillaryscandals; impeached42; irs; mediabias; rushlimbaugh; senate; tedkennedy; x42
Hopefully, Rush will keep pounding away at this, so it doesn't go away.
1 posted on 05/05/2005 6:02:39 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

Why did a court seal the report and put a gag order on the investigator?


2 posted on 05/05/2005 6:15:33 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Hard to change your ID when it's "admin")
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To: wagglebee
Clinton pardoned him before leaving office; was that for something else?

What is Henry doing these days, anyone know?

3 posted on 05/05/2005 6:18:04 PM PDT by uvular
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To: wagglebee
"I want to clarify one thing. Senator Kennedy was not part of the Democrat effort to quash the bill."

. . .there is a war going on here. . .

As for the scandal. . .may the truth fly. . .but still, are there 'socks to stuff' here. . .pants? Where IS Sandy Berger?

Assume all vulnerable here; have their life insurance premiums paid up.

4 posted on 05/05/2005 6:23:18 PM PDT by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: uvular

Cisneros pardon in 2001 was for lying to the FBI about payments to a former mistress.
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a9c9c5e1cca.htm

As for what he is doing now, hopefully he is trying to figure out a way to testify against the Klintoons and not wind up a victim of the Arkansas Mafia.


5 posted on 05/05/2005 6:24:12 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Thanks for the info, wagglebee; this will indeed be interesting to watch. Oh, to see one former Clinton pal pay a price for his misdeeds and if Hillary can be connected to it, it's a bonus.


6 posted on 05/05/2005 6:27:47 PM PDT by uvular
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To: wagglebee

BUMP! BUMP! BUMP!


7 posted on 05/05/2005 6:31:25 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: uvular
Oh, to see one former Clinton pal pay a price for his misdeeds

Personally, I'm hoping for the day when a Clintonista doesn't have to pay the price (be it in prison or an "unfortunate" case of Arkancide) for his crimes. I want to see one of them be given immunity and bring down Hitlery and the Bent One.

8 posted on 05/05/2005 6:33:27 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
"I want to clarify one thing. Senator Kennedy was not part of the Democrat effort to quash the bill."

The clintoons always seem to have someone else do their dirty work.

9 posted on 05/05/2005 6:33:51 PM PDT by mickie
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To: uvular
Cisneros Probe Found Clinton IRS Abuse

Barrett's report is also said to allege that Justice Department officials snuffed out a tax case against Cisneros.

10 posted on 05/05/2005 6:34:56 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: thoughtomator
Why did a court seal the report and put a gag order on the investigator?

It is my understanding that when an independent counsel drafts a report, it has to be run by anyone who is named in the report and they are allowed to make comments. It is also my understanding that the lawyers for those named in this report have put up about 190 motions in the courts to keep the report from being made public.

There has to be some hot stuff in this one.

11 posted on 05/05/2005 6:43:03 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: mickie

The Kennedy wing is opposed to the Clinton wing. Ted would be only too happy to see Hillary humiliated.


12 posted on 05/05/2005 6:49:43 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: jackbill

Investigators had/have subpoena power.


13 posted on 05/05/2005 6:53:00 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: wagglebee

I'm so glad the mainstream press has been keeping on top of this important story about corruption and abuse of power in the highest places.


14 posted on 05/05/2005 7:01:06 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: All

As much as I hope this builds and goes somewhere UP the chain at the clinton whitehouse.....after 8 years of democrats sticking together and refusing to talk, and republicans without the stones to put people in jail , I well ...don't even have the heart to hope.

I really think the Clintons have the goods on to many conservatives thru those fbi files. And the only way they are going to get info that sticks .....is to put everyone in jail all the way up the ladder. They have to know they aren't getting a deal without spilling their guts.


15 posted on 05/05/2005 7:09:06 PM PDT by uncle fenders
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To: Cicero
I'm so glad the mainstream press has been keeping on top of this important story about corruption and abuse of power in the highest places.

I'm sure that any day now "60 Minute" will produce a "memo" proving that Clinton wanted to have Cisneros prosecuted, but Ken Starr and the Republicans wouldn't allow it!

16 posted on 05/05/2005 7:12:24 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

How interesting since Cisneros' current wife just wrapped him on the head with a hammer a day or two ago for another "mistress" deal and now is in divorce mode.

I think truth is valuable so I hope that she has some choice things to contribute on subject.

Also makes me wonder whether this could be the reason Billy C has become a Bush adoptee these days.


17 posted on 05/05/2005 7:20:54 PM PDT by Spirited (God, Bless America ) ;))
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To: Spirited
How interesting since Cisneros' current wife just wrapped him on the head with a hammer a day or two ago for another "mistress" deal and now is in divorce mode.

Wrong Cisneros. Carlos Cisneros was the guy that was hammered. Henry is the Clinton "associate".

18 posted on 05/05/2005 7:24:53 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: uncle fenders

"The only way they are going to get info that sticks is to put everyone in jail all the way up the ladder"

Is there a PROBLEM with THIS SCENARIO? I would LOVE to see them ALL rot in jail...if justice weren't blinded by power and bribery, alot of them would already have served HARD TIME by now!


19 posted on 05/05/2005 7:51:45 PM PDT by princess leah (\)
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To: wagglebee; MurryMom; Liz; Howlin; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog; Mudboy Slim
"A Senate rider inserted in an emergency appropriations bill in the dead of the night, which would close a rare window into political foul play at the Internal Revenue Service, was quietly removed Tuesday in Senate-House negotiations. That offers full disclosure of a major scandal that has been percolating for a decade. The rider would have de-funded the investigation begun in 1995 of then-Housing Secretary Henry Cisneros by Independent Counsel David Barrett. The amendment was sponsored by three highly influential Democrats..."

Murrymom, is there really any good reason to stick with the 100% corrupt RATS?

20 posted on 05/05/2005 7:52:31 PM PDT by Libloather (Start Hillary's recount now - just to get it out of the way...)
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To: wagglebee

Rush is tainted goods.


21 posted on 05/05/2005 7:59:59 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: Old Professer

The sins of the messenger dont taint the message.


22 posted on 05/05/2005 8:01:54 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (I post the story, then turn the discussion back over to the adults...)
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To: wallcrawlr
Cisneros is garbage, but he did have his uses.

Rush will be excoriated befor this is done; America loves a good "stompfest."

23 posted on 05/05/2005 8:03:27 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Yes, and Kerry is more in line with Kennedy than the klintoon's, so I'm wondering what Kerry's angle is here trying to keep this buried.

Maybe he still owe's Bubba for some of the Chicom funds thrown his way.

24 posted on 05/05/2005 8:14:05 PM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: libs_kma
..so I'm wondering what Kerry's angle is here trying to keep this buried.

..sKERRY: "It wasn't Me, $hrillary"

25 posted on 05/05/2005 9:08:54 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: wagglebee

I am so glad you posted this! Rush was great yesterday. FRegards....


26 posted on 05/06/2005 3:52:27 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Bump for later read

Meekie, a ping if you please... :)

27 posted on 05/06/2005 5:23:53 AM PDT by Donaeus (Government is not the guarantor of our freedom it is the forger of our chains.)
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To: wagglebee; Donaeus; Squantos; Clinger; GeronL; Billie; Slyfox; San Jacinto; SpookBrat; ...
Rush Limbaugh:
Clinton/Cisneros Cover-Up Fails

Excerpt:

This is a report that could really damage ten or so, maybe even more, members of the Clinton administration. We talked about this a couple weeks ago. A couple Democrats, including John Kerry, were trying to squelch this by defunding it, by putting it in another piece of Senate legislation. The word leaked out that this was happening, Tony Snow wrote a column about it, we talked about it on this program, enough attention was brought to bear, the effort to bury this report and to defund it has failed. Now, it's still under seal, but the likelihood is there will be a report made public on this at some point and that means that there are people cowering in fear and quivering in the corners even as we speak. This is a real under-the-cover effort here, folks, to try to get this investigation quashed, or the report quashed, and they came close. They came very, very, very close to doing this. That, too, I predict is going to be a story, how they almost got this investigation totally quashed, defunded, and therefore buried .....


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28 posted on 05/06/2005 6:49:52 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: uvular
I thought he was president of Univision but apparently he couldn't keep that job either:

"A former President of Univision (the nation’s fifth-largest TV network) Cisneros serves as Chairman of American CityVista and City View, where he is leading a movement to strengthen our nation one neighborhood at a time. In 2004 he was named “Builder of the Year” by El Nuevo Constructor magazine."

I figured at the time there had to be more to the story. Cisneros was, at the time, touted as one of the rising stars of the dims, more so than any I've seen hyped since and he went down from politics hard which usually means that for everything that we found out about there were a dozen more that didn't see the light of day.

29 posted on 05/06/2005 8:49:19 AM PDT by Proud_texan (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: wagglebee; All

Actually, Tony Snow is the person who beat at this until it broke into the public view.

Rush had mentioned this story a few weeks ago .. and Tony Snow picked up the gauntlet and began talking to all the Senators about how this happened and what they were going to do to take this amendment off the Appropriations bill.

And .. for all you George Allen fans (and I like George), when Tony talked to him - he had no idea what SA-399 was - yet HE VOTED TO ATTACH IT TO THE APPROPRIATIONS BILL. Tony was livid at him. IN FACT - THE AMENDMENT WAS ATTACHED BY A UNANIMOUS SENATE VOTE - and the reason the dems got away with it WAS BECAUSE THEY LIED ABOUT WHAT THE AMENDMENT SAID.

We all need to continually remind our REPUBLICAN senators that the DEMOCRATS WILL LIE, CHEAT, STEAL, OBSTRUCT, HIDE, etc. in order to cover up THEIR OWN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

It's a common mistake by "good" people - to assume others have the same values.

THE DEMOCRATS DON'T HAVE THE SAME VALUES - and we need to continually drum that home to our representatives - the OLD BOY NETWORK is OVER!! The democrats are only using it to try to IMPOSE their view. This has to stop.

Never forget: Boxer, Dodd, Reid, Kerry, Dorgan - have all wrtten legislation to either help members of their own family or to try to cover up CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. This is just a GROSS ABUSE OF THEIR SENITORIAL POWER. This has to be stopped.


30 posted on 05/06/2005 9:49:18 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: jackbill

"hot stuff"


According to Tony Snow - this report has some "nasty stuff" in it.

Hillary is going to have a difficult time distancing herself from all this criminal activity by people who are still working for her. Several of them are running 527's for Soros.


31 posted on 05/06/2005 9:54:00 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You are exactly correct - I have been saying this for months - and I hear today McCain is trying to get Kerry to drop his bid for the dem nomination. Hmmmm?

My question: Has Hillary made McCain an offer he can't refuse ..??


32 posted on 05/06/2005 10:02:35 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: mabelkitty

YES! THEY SURE DO!!


33 posted on 05/06/2005 10:03:10 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Spirited

I think that's a different Cisneros. The guy that got bonked on the head is a "state senator" somewhere .. and he might be related to Henry, but I don't think it's the same guy.

The reason .. there was no mention of Cisneros being the former Secy. in Clinton's admin.


34 posted on 05/06/2005 10:06:52 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: wagglebee

Don't hold your breath - congress critters watch out for each other on pain of exposure. I just hope the fat lady is waiting in the wings.


35 posted on 05/06/2005 10:10:43 AM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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To: princess leah; All

"if justice weren't blinded by power and bribery, alot of them would already have served HARD TIME by now!"


And .. their crimes weren't discussed in the press - who burried or ignored their crimes.

HOWEVER, THE NEW MEDIA IS HERE - and just like this horrid amendment - the dems cannot keep this stuff hidden anymore.

THAT IS THE BIG DIFFERENCE THE DEMS STILL HAVE NOT FIGURED OUT. They believe that if the NYT or the WP or CNN doesn't say anything then these people are going to be able to get away with this stuff .. NOT ANY MORE.


36 posted on 05/06/2005 10:12:49 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Old Professer

Hmmmmm? I don't agree! Being addicted to prescription pain killers - does not make him tainted.

And .. it wasn't Rush who worked this story - IT WAS TONY SNOW. Rush is just reporting it again - because the stinking amendment has now been removed.


37 posted on 05/06/2005 10:17:09 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Old Professer

Please go whine somewhere else.

THIS IS A GREAT VICTORY FOR THE NEW MEDIA - WE ARE THE ONES WHO EXPOSED THIS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY BY DEMOCRAT SENATORS - and just because Rush happens to be reporting on it - that doesn't taint the message.


38 posted on 05/06/2005 10:19:17 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: libs_kma

Or just maybe .. just maybe .. Hillary knows about stuff in Kerry's FBI file that Kerry does not want made public.


39 posted on 05/06/2005 10:20:26 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Old Professer

....you wish....not in your wildest nightmares....


40 posted on 05/06/2005 10:22:53 AM PDT by smiley
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To: uncle fenders
***I really think the Clintons have the goods on to many conservatives thru those fbi files. ***

I really think the same thing uncle. Used to joke about the clinton/fbi files but the RRs (rollover republicans) lack of stance on anything has got my tin foil hat rustling.

41 posted on 05/06/2005 10:37:24 AM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: Old Professer

Actually, Rush was not the original source of this story, so what does his reputation have to do with the story? I heard the latest news on the Cisneros case on the Tony Snow show, one hour before Rush mentioned.


42 posted on 05/06/2005 10:38:58 AM PDT by Eva
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To: CyberAnt

Thank you so much for clearing up my confusion.

Sorry that what I wrote was inaccurate.


43 posted on 05/06/2005 9:09:29 PM PDT by Spirited (God, Bless America ) ;))
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To: jackbill

Thank you for correcting me, jackbill. I didn't think there might be another in public life. But I didn't check.


44 posted on 05/06/2005 9:18:48 PM PDT by Spirited (God, Bless America ) ;))
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To: Spirited

No problem .. I was tempted to make the same mistake when I first saw the name Cisneros.


45 posted on 05/06/2005 9:32:49 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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