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U.S. needs replacement for current Humvee
United Press International ^
| May 06, 2005
| Pamela Hess
Posted on 05/06/2005 12:17:38 AM PDT by kingattax
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posted on
05/06/2005 12:17:38 AM PDT
by
kingattax
To: kingattax
As far as military procurement is concerned, we just GOT the darn things...and now they have to be replaced????
And with what??? Better yet, how much is THIS gonna cost us?
Don't get me wrong...I want our troops to get the best possible equipment to do the job. Even so, isn't there SOME way we can save some money?
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posted on
05/06/2005 12:21:09 AM PDT
by
hoagy62
(Revolution is now the ONLY option.)
To: hoagy62
Even so, isn't there SOME way we can save some money?Kill more enemy combatants.
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posted on
05/06/2005 12:22:49 AM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(.:: "Do not be afraid of Christ! He takes nothing away, and he gives you everything." ::.)
To: Jeff Chandler
Kill more enemy combatants.And by any and all means necessary. If it takes carpet bombing, artillry bombardment, sieges, nukes, MOABs, anything that kills more combatents and saves soldier's lives then by all means do it. Screw what the world thinks of us. Civilians will just have to get out of the way.
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posted on
05/06/2005 12:26:06 AM PDT
by
Paul_Denton
(Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
To: Jeff Chandler
Okay...I can agree to that....
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posted on
05/06/2005 12:26:36 AM PDT
by
hoagy62
(Revolution is now the ONLY option.)
To: kingattax
The army is wasting time, money, and lives trying to make a glorified Jeep into a fighting vehicle.
Its nothing but a staff car people, it wasn't designed to fight. Its built on obsolete GM running gear and light construction.
This is what Stryker was made for. Stop sending Hummers and start making Strykers in mass.
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posted on
05/06/2005 12:27:16 AM PDT
by
konaice
To: konaice
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posted on
05/06/2005 12:30:45 AM PDT
by
kingattax
To: hoagy62
The HMMWV design dates back to the late 70s and entered production in the 80s. It's nowhere near state of the art. For example, the 6.5L turbodiesel in them is considerably less powerful than the versions available in civilian 2500/3500-class trucks. It was designed as a larger, more stable Jeep that could be used for more roles; medium-to-heavy combat vehicle was not one of them. Uparmoring the HMMWV was just a band-aid; ACAVs, Bradleys, and Strykers are what this mission really calls for.
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posted on
05/06/2005 12:34:12 AM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: kingattax
The Hummer was never meant to be a tank.
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posted on
05/06/2005 12:36:21 AM PDT
by
MistrX
To: Spktyr
Miles are excessive for tracked vehicle OPTEMPO- except as a response force. Impractical for patrolling.
Stryker, LAV and new MP Armored Security Vehicle are performing well.
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posted on
05/06/2005 12:49:41 AM PDT
by
xsrdx
(Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
To: kingattax
Well if yer gonna go ya may as well go to war with a wet bar !
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posted on
05/06/2005 12:50:49 AM PDT
by
Squantos
(Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
To: Spktyr
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posted on
05/06/2005 1:03:14 AM PDT
by
PzGr43
To: xsrdx
I wonder how the ASV stands up against the ubiquitous RPG ?
it seems that next to IED's , the RPG is the single worst threat US Forces face on many fronts. The RPG has been around
for so long and it is still taking far too many names.
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posted on
05/06/2005 1:04:13 AM PDT
by
injin
To: kingattax; All
The best solution for the next generation of Hummers: M1117/ASV-150 Commando.
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posted on
05/06/2005 1:58:22 AM PDT
by
Wiz
To: kingattax
Strykers are OK, but they are large which will spoil the vehicle when only few attendants are operating the vehicle. Stryker is rather an armored taxi, transportation for troops. On the other hand, ASV-150 Commandos are smaller having 3 or 4 attendants designed for security missions. Meanwhile, these Commandos are sometimes called the mini-Strykers.
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posted on
05/06/2005 2:02:44 AM PDT
by
Wiz
To: xsrdx
You seem to understand what is needed for the military. :)
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posted on
05/06/2005 2:04:56 AM PDT
by
Wiz
To: injin
ASV-150 has the survivability against RPG-7 with the add on armor kit. It has equivalent armor of the Stryker. However, while it has a survivability against RPG-7, it is another story for the ASV-150 to continue running after the RPG-7 hits the vehicle. I wish there was the slat armor for ASV-150. Could that make it continue to operate with RPG-7 striking the vehicle? I have heard about a story that General Dynamics were pessimistic about building Strykers for the great capabilities of ASV-150.
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posted on
05/06/2005 2:09:48 AM PDT
by
Wiz
To: kingattax
To: hoagy62
And with what???
The Humvee is a replacement for the little Jeep. A vehicle that was used for transportation, not as a tank. Today the Humvee is used as an armored vehicle.
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posted on
05/06/2005 4:25:06 AM PDT
by
chainsaw
To: kingattax
Alternatively
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posted on
05/06/2005 4:35:15 AM PDT
by
from occupied ga
(Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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