Posted on 05/06/2005 6:23:19 AM PDT by St. Johann Tetzel
Murder?
How about rape?
I don't believe in capital punishment for rape, and I doubt you do either. Castration? Sure!
So why do some people advocate Capital Punishment for the other innocent victim of rape, not the woman but the baby so conceived?
While pregnancy following rape is uncommon, In the individual patient to whom it occurs it's incidence is 100%.
We limit treatment to 72 hours.
Feel free to treat YOUR patients by any rules you choose. I am very comfortable with how I treat mine.
You do whatever you wish. Just know that if you are working in a Catholic institution, and your regimen violates what I posted, you are violating basic and foundational Catholic moral teachings.
There are a lot of cruelties in the world. It doesn't give license to kill an innocent person in order to soothe one's feelings.
The God-given Right to Life recognized by our Founding Fathers supercedes the consent of those so inconvenienced.
A baby's right to life trumps a woman's right to consent. Its the not baby's fault that a criminal violated the mother's right to consent, and the baby should not be sentenced to death for the crime/sin of the rapist.
Fact: I did not consent to be born.
Question: Do I have a moral obligation to care for my parents if they become capacitated later in life - either by caring for them personally or taking on the financial burden for someone else to?
or
Would it be immoral to leave them to lay in their own waste, uncared for in a deteriorating and inhuman environment?
Can I argue, with a clear conscience, since I did not consent to be born, I don't have a moral obligation?
Sorry - "incapacitated"
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Your obligation is to stay on the gurney since an innocent life depends on your doing so.
You should not be. If you provide abortifacients, regardles of any other consideration, you assist in murder. You feelings, or absence of feelings, do not alter the objective moral reality.
This is so simple, so common sense. Only in this post-Christian era could otherwise decent people be so deceived as to think otherwise.
Our society is rushing headlong into a vegetative state.
You're not talking about single cells. A Zygote is not visibly human, but it is very defnitely multi-cellular.
This analogy fails for a lot of reasons. A pregnant woman is not nearly so constrained. In fact, I will go way out on a limb as a man and say that the emotional complications far outweigh he physical complications.
I really don't know if she could successfully detach the child from the event.
But I wouldn't be a bit surprised if a woman who knowingly had an abortion following a rape would be nearly as tortured by her decision as any other abortive mother who truly reflects on what she has done.
It would be nice to be able to believe that this sort of thing could be resolved by taking a pill, but I really can't buy that. When someone commits an evil act, the destruction is real as are the consequences. Attempts to quickly and easily undo that evil are often just as destructive as it is.
I think this is a very difficult situation; I think Bush means well, but any time a group starts taking federal money, it also becomes subject to a million laws that will essentially undermine its religious nature.
Personally, I think even hospitals could make enough money to exist without federal funding, if they offered a genuine alternative to the modern US attitude towards life (which is, "get rid of it!"). That and bringing back religious orders dedicated to nursing, which they had back in the old days before the good sisters decided they wanted to put on performances of the Vagina Monologues and maybe get ordained to the priesthood while they were at it.
There are definitely some good Catholic hospitals left. I think we'll see more of them under the new Pope, too.
And many religious charities are chomping at the bit to get their piece of the Federal money pie.
I'm not a religious person, but if I were I would run screaming from any suggestion that my particular group get intertwined with government when it came to charitable works.
Very good analogy.
I disagree. It's simple, the government has no legitmate role in churches or charity whatsoever.
I think Bush means well
So did Roosevelt. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
but any time a group starts taking federal money, it also becomes subject to a million laws that will essentially undermine its religious nature.
Precisely, not to mention involving themselves with force based groups, like government.
Personally, I think even hospitals could make enough money to exist without federal funding,
Indeed, no involvement with hospitals is needed or useful. Anything which cannot exist on it's own without the use of force isn't valued enough by people to exist in the first place.
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