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More heat for Tancredo. Rep. Cannon doubts whether Coloradan should be in GOP
Rocky Mountain News ^ | May 5, 2005 | By M.E. Sprengelmeyer,

Posted on 05/06/2005 7:47:06 AM PDT by .cnI redruM

WASHINGTON - Rep. Tom Tancredo ought to reconsider his membership in the Republican Party, a Utah congressman said Wednesday after the two GOP lawmakers put an intraparty rift over immigration policy on full public display.

"I think he ought to consider his views and decide whether they're consistent with the Republican Party," Rep. Chris Cannon, R-Utah, said of the Colorado congressman after the two clashed repeatedly during a forum sponsored by the Latino Coalition, a Hispanic business group.

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Cannon, a leading proponent of President Bush's proposed guest- worker program, has had a running feud with Tancredo, an opponent of the plan and outspoken advocate of tougher immigration enforcement. Last year, a political action committee founded by Tancredo targeted Cannon during his primary election challenge.

The two men sat side by side on stools at Wednesday's event inside Washington's J.W. Marriott hotel, and the rhetoric got so emotional that at one point they had a comical tussle over who would get to hold the microphone next.

The debate began with a third panelist, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., denouncing unnamed people he said were exploiting the immigration issue because of bigotry, hatred and prejudice.

"If not for the undocumented workers in this country, I'd say that this room would not have been as clean and well-organized this morning," Gutierrez said.

Tancredo challenged Gutierrez when he took the microphone.

"We certainly would not want to pander to anyone on this issue, would we?" Tancredo said. "What I just heard was not that, was it?"

Tancredo repeated his long-standing call for the country to close its "porous borders" before it considers a new guest-worker program.

"It is crazy to suggest this nation should not do everything possible to secure the border," Tancredo said, saying a desire for cheap, immigrant labor could leave the borders open to terrorists or narcotics traffickers. Tancredo equates Bush's proposal to "amnesty" for illegal immigrants, saying it would reward people who entered the country illegally.

When it was his turn, Cannon immediately endorsed Gutierrez's earlier statement. He said the vast majority of Americans believe that undocumented immigrants should have "a path to citizenship" as long as they have willing employers, have not committed crimes and already are contributing to society.

Cannon said only a small minority of people "truly believe we should kick out" all illegal immigrants. He cited one of Tancredo's political allies, conservative commentator Pat Buchanan, who got about 1 percent of the vote after he left the Republican Party and ran for president in 2000 as a third-party candidate.

"I don't think there's a place in the Republican Party for racism, for xenophobia, for ideas that are fundamentally un-American," Cannon said.

Tancredo clapped quietly, saying he also sees no place in the debate for racism or xenophobia, which refers to a fear of foreign people or things.

Still, some observers - including a Tancredo staff member - interpreted it as an indirect reference to Tancredo, since he has recently toyed with the idea of following in Buchanan's footsteps and mounting a presidential campaign in 2008.

Asked after the event if he thought Tancredo was racist or xenophobic, Cannon said: "I don't know what motivates him."

In an interview, Tancredo fired back at Cannon, pointing to his primary election challenge by Republican Matt Throckmorton in 2004. The Team America PAC, founded by Tancredo and chaired by Buchanan's sister, Bay Buchanan, backed Throckmorton. Another group, Project U.S.A., placed billboards saying "Congressman Chris Cannon wants amnesty for illegal aliens. Do you?"

"Of the two of us, Mr. Cannon is the only one who has had a primary (challenge since taking office)," Tancredo said. "Evidently, there are a lot of people in his district who believe he is not Republican enough."

Tancredo has recently started traveling to early presidential primary states like New Hampshire, saying he wants to make sure the "serious candidates" put the immigration issue front-and-center in the 2008 race.

He has said it is unlikely he would actually run in - or win - a presidential race, but that he would consider a campaign if other candidates ignore the issue.

But he sees no need to leave the Republican Party.

"I believe the Republican Party is with me on the issue," Tancredo said.

"As long as that's the case, I frankly can't think why I would change. In the Republican Party, more people agree with me than with President Bush and Mr. Cannon (on immigration)."

Tancredo was facing a polite but generally skeptical crowd at The Latino Coalition event. Before he appeared, an opening speaker, while listing the VIPs invited to speak, added, "I'm sorry, but we also have Congressman Tom Tancredo."

That prompted a smattering of boos and hisses.

About 30 minutes after Tancredo, Cannon and Gutierrez left the stage, President Bush appeared for a presentation on Social Security. He got huge applause when he diverged to talk about his guest worker plan, which could go before Congress later this year.


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I seem to remember Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment. "Do not speak evil of another Republican!" Perhaps that calls Mr. Cannon's true affiliation into legitimate question.
1 posted on 05/06/2005 7:47:07 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
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To: .cnI redruM

Tancredo is fighting the good fight on immigration...


2 posted on 05/06/2005 7:48:53 AM PDT by Mikey_1962
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To: .cnI redruM
The debate began with a third panelist, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., denouncing unnamed people he said were exploiting the immigration issue because of bigotry, hatred and prejudice.

Uh, yeah, sure, Luis.

3 posted on 05/06/2005 7:49:14 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: .cnI redruM

Hey, if we put up with Chaffee, Snowe, McCain and others, we can put up with Cannon (yes, the switch was on purpose).


4 posted on 05/06/2005 7:51:02 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: .cnI redruM

Sorry Luis, my problem with illegals has more to do with Hezbollah terrorists sneaking through the Southern border.


5 posted on 05/06/2005 7:51:20 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Get in the ring!")
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To: .cnI redruM

I think Rep. Chris Cannon, R-Utah "ought to consider his views and decide whether they're consistent with the Republican Party"


6 posted on 05/06/2005 7:52:40 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
McCain can be brought back into line. I loved it when Hastert had enough of his ego auto eroticism and asked "Senator McCain, is he a Republican?"
7 posted on 05/06/2005 7:52:51 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."-PM Thatcher)
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To: Mikey_1962
"Don't worry. As soon as we get rid of that Tancredo,

we'll be able to pass the guest worker amnesty."


8 posted on 05/06/2005 7:52:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: .cnI redruM

So Cannon sides with a Democrat and calls Tancredo a racist, yet it's Tancredo who doesn't belong in the Republican Party.

Mr. Cannon, are we all citizens of the world?

Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe.


9 posted on 05/06/2005 7:53:08 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: .cnI redruM
Huh, it's funny how you guys are trying to coverup tancredo's backstabbing of Tom Delay(saying Delay should resign) in front of the liberal media cameras.

Nice try but no cigar.

10 posted on 05/06/2005 7:53:34 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Mikey_1962

I agree, but I think Tancredo and other Republicans who agree with him need to figure a way to do this so that it won't piss off the Hispanic voters. What happened to Schwarzenegger's popularity after he came out for tightening the border shows that these polls that claim Hispanics want a tight border policy are simply wrong. If the GOP wants to get this done, they are going to have to do it in such a way that it does not become a partisan issue. Do it so that the Dems are competing with the GOP to see who can give the best border security.


11 posted on 05/06/2005 7:55:07 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: dirtboy

I guess it is now considered bigotry to discriminate between law keepers and law breakers. Besides, why bother keeping laws that weren't created by the super legislators -- the judges? It's a waste of time.


12 posted on 05/06/2005 7:56:26 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Travis McGee
Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.) said yesterday that it "may be a productive move" for House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) to step aside while charges against him are investigated
13 posted on 05/06/2005 7:56:35 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: .cnI redruM
Yep. Funny isn't it. Kinda like one Freeper calling into question another Freeper's Conservative Credentials ™ because they are not rabidly xenophobic and don't think oral contraceptives are of the Devil.

I am reminded of the words of my favorite founding father, “We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.”
14 posted on 05/06/2005 7:56:54 AM PDT by WolfRunnerWoman (I want closure on the word "closure".)
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To: Travis McGee

BTW, Travis, tom tancredo shot himself with the long knife he put into Tom Delay's back.


15 posted on 05/06/2005 7:58:22 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: .cnI redruM

Cannon is a joke. Does he seriously believe voters in the GOP are going to side with him and his open borders philosophy over Tom Tancredo?


16 posted on 05/06/2005 7:59:59 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Travis McGee

You know, I am not sure if Bush is pushing this because he truly has sympathy for these Mexican families (I share that sentiment, but it is no excuse to break the law) or if it's more of a gov't-handout-to-business reason like the WSJ's.


17 posted on 05/06/2005 8:00:11 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Mikey_1962

Is Tancredo hispanic?? I'd like to see him in 2008 race. As much as I support Bush, his open border policy just doesn't make any sense.


18 posted on 05/06/2005 8:01:11 AM PDT by kimosabe31
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To: Dane

Tancredo can be wrong about Delay and still be right about immigration. They are two different issues.


19 posted on 05/06/2005 8:01:52 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Brilliant

My wife is Mexican and nothing makes her angrier than the time and money ($3000) we had to put up to get her here.

Most Mexicans are very Conservative and natural Republicans. If we develope a guest worker system that works WITH A TIGHT BORDER, the party will not suffer.


20 posted on 05/06/2005 8:03:49 AM PDT by Mikey_1962
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Tancredo can be wrong about Delay and still be right about immigration. They are two different issues.

Wrong? He backstabbed Delay. It called a grandstanding personality in front of the liberal media cameras that tancredo relishes.

21 posted on 05/06/2005 8:03:53 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane

Tancredo sides with the Democrats, calling for DeLay to step down, he also attacks President Bush, practically called him a traitor in an article Tancredo wrote for the Los Angeles Times, but that's all just fine with some people.

But if someone points that out, like Cannon, then people attack him.

Read this to see how he is attacking the President.

TANCREDO: This Land Is Whose Land?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1394585/posts


And here is Tancredo's statement about DeLay from his own website, he is still calling for him to step aside and delight the Democrats.

http://tancredo.house.gov/pressers/04.15.05%20Tancredo%20Statement%20on%20DeLay.htm

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I guess Tancredo thinks that the Democrats will be better to stem the flow of illegal immigration, the way he is helping them, by attacking Republicans.

So, what IS Tancredo's REAL AGENDA?


22 posted on 05/06/2005 8:06:04 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Dane
Huh, it's funny how you guys are trying to coverup tancredo's backstabbing of Tom Delay(saying Delay should resign) in front of the liberal media cameras

Who tried to cover anything up? While I think your characterization is an exageration, Tancredo did say DeLay might consider temporarily stepping aside. I don't agree with him about DeLay. I do agree with him about illegal immigration and closing or porous borders.

23 posted on 05/06/2005 8:06:45 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: SittinYonder
Tancredo did say DeLay might consider temporarily stepping aside

Fine I'll go to the ethics committee and say tancredo beats his wife, will he take his own advice and "temporarily" step aside.

24 posted on 05/06/2005 8:09:22 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
It called a grandstanding personality in front of the liberal media cameras that tancredo relishes.

No, I think you have him mixed up with McCain.

25 posted on 05/06/2005 8:10:17 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: FairOpinion
I believe that all of the charges against Tom DeLay I have seen to date lack merit

This is where Tancredo puts the knife in, right?

I believe they are being leveled in the hopes of bringing him down, and with him the Republican Majority

This must be where he turns the knife, right?

However, if the Majority Leader were to temporarily step aside so that these trumped up charges can be dealt with in a less hostile environment, as they have proven to be an unnecessary distraction, it may be a productive move

And this is where he sides with the Democrats, right?

I don't agree with Tancredo about DeLay, but it's hardly backstabbing.

26 posted on 05/06/2005 8:10:47 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
No, I think you have him mixed up with McCain.

JMO, both have the same grandstanding ways.

27 posted on 05/06/2005 8:11:37 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
will he take his own advice and "temporarily" step aside.

If it creates the same kind of environment that the DeLay situation created at the time Tancredo said it, then Tancredo would be a hypocrite not to "temporarily" step aside. Give it a go, take your wife-beating complaint to the ethics committee, and let's see what Tancredo does.

28 posted on 05/06/2005 8:13:29 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: SittinYonder
I don't agree with Tancredo about DeLay, but it's hardly backstabbing

Really? tancredo saying Delay should step aside over trumped up charges is not backstabbing.

You want to buy a bridge to Brooklyn.

29 posted on 05/06/2005 8:14:06 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: SittinYonder
If it creates the same kind of environment that the DeLay situation created at the time Tancredo said it, then Tancredo would be a hypocrite not to "temporarily" step aside. Give it a go, take your wife-beating complaint to the ethics committee, and let's see what Tancredo does

Uh sittin in the out house yonder there, tancredo with his backstabbing added to the liberal media enviromental frenzy.

30 posted on 05/06/2005 8:16:19 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
You want to buy a bridge to Brooklyn

No thanks, some of the terrorists who have come across the border might blow it up.

31 posted on 05/06/2005 8:16:43 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: Dane
sittin in the out house yonder there

Why is that necessary? Why do you feel the need to attempt to insult me just because I disagree with you?

32 posted on 05/06/2005 8:18:30 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: SittinYonder
No thanks, some of the terrorists who have come across the border might blow it up

Well it looks like you at least considered the offer to buy the bridge.

33 posted on 05/06/2005 8:18:38 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: .cnI redruM

Tancredo is doing the right thing. As a fellow Colorodan, as I look around my community, growing with Hispanic in an exponential manner, stiffer immigration policies are in order, indeed, needed.


34 posted on 05/06/2005 8:19:58 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: FairOpinion

I won't "practically" call Bush a traitor. He IS a traitor, for his calling the Minutemen vigilantes but especially his allowing and urging millions of illegals to swarm into the country. Add to this his promotion of "mental health screening" for all children in schools, and his overspending more than any U.S. President since Lyndon Johnson....
I don't know about Delay. If he's promoting illegal immigration or not. But Bush deserves to be tarred and feathered and impeached.


35 posted on 05/06/2005 8:20:32 AM PDT by Charlesj (I'd gladly fire Drier.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
You are wasting your breath on the Pro-Illegal Traitors. Their only reason for harping on the "Tom said such and such about Delay" is to try and discredit one of the Few True Americans that stand up for our country and not Mexico.

They also "Talk out of the left side of their mouths", these are the same people who told us not to be "One Issue" conservatives". Amazing how they forget that when the shoes on the other foot. It's been proven time and time again on these forums that most Pro-Illegals are not even American citizens.

What I am still trying to figure out though is why they are allowed to rant over and over again, most of the time off topic, and still not be banned like the rest of the folks.

36 posted on 05/06/2005 8:22:25 AM PDT by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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To: Charlesj
But Bush deserves to be tarred and feathered and impeached

Listening to the box set of michael savage(weiner) this morning?

37 posted on 05/06/2005 8:23:19 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: SittinYonder; FairOpinion
>> Who tried to cover anything up? While I think your characterization is an exageration, Tancredo did say DeLay might consider temporarily stepping aside. I don't agree with him about DeLay. <<

You know, it's funny, these RINO Tancredo haters have done more to "backstab" Delay than Tom EVER has because they continue to distort his comments to make them sound more damning against Delay like the mainstream media wants. If they're looking for a way to damage Delay, they're doing an excellent job by repeating the mainstream media talking points.

What part of the word TEMPORARY don't the RINOs understand? Cheney was TEMPORARILY in charge of the White House when G.W. Bush was undergoing surgrey. That doesn't make Cheney commander-in-chief now!

These RINOs must be from the same school of media reporting that intrepted Henry Hyde's comments of "I can't that it wasn't" related to Nixon as somehow meaning that "Hyde says Clinton impeachment was PAYBACK for Nixon impeachment"

38 posted on 05/06/2005 8:24:04 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Find out the TRUTH about the Chicago Democrat Machine's "Best Friend" in the GOP - www.NOLaHood.com)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Does he seriously believe voters in the GOP are going to side with him and his open borders philosophy over Tom Tancredo?

Yes, he serves a constituency that likes having a source of cheap illegal labor to keep it prosperous at least, filthy rich at best. Even if his rich mormon contributors don't hire illegals, they like owning businesses that can employ citizens for less then ten bucks an hour, because of illegals depressing wages in Utah.

39 posted on 05/06/2005 8:24:16 AM PDT by hunter112 (Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
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To: BillyBoy
What part of the word TEMPORARY don't the RINOs understand?

Uh, in DC there is no such word as TEMPORARY, and you know that, but nice try in trying to deflect the obviousness of tancredo's ego of backstabbing.

40 posted on 05/06/2005 8:27:08 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
Fine I'll go to the ethics committee and say tancredo beats his wife

Uh sittin in the out house yonder there

Well it looks like you at least considered the offer to buy the bridge.

Listening to the box set of michael savage(weiner) this morning?

Do you have anything constructive to add or just insults for the rest of us?

41 posted on 05/06/2005 8:27:29 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: SittinYonder
Do you have anything constructive to add or just insults for the rest of us?

Uh yes the very constructive fact that tom tancredo is a backstabber towards Tom Delay.

42 posted on 05/06/2005 8:29:59 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
I believe that all of the charges against Tom DeLay I have seen to date lack merit

This is where Tancredo puts the knife in, right?

I believe they are being leveled in the hopes of bringing him down, and with him the Republican Majority

This must be where he turns the knife, right?

However, if the Majority Leader were to temporarily step aside so that these trumped up charges can be dealt with in a less hostile environment, as they have proven to be an unnecessary distraction, it may be a productive move

And this is where he sides with the Democrats, right?

I don't agree with Tancredo about DeLay, but it's hardly backstabbing.

43 posted on 05/06/2005 8:32:28 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: SittinYonder
I don't agree with Tancredo about DeLay, but it's hardly backstabbing

Uh sitting yonder wherever, could be an outhouse, and you'll get all over indignant over my speculation.

What part of "stepping aside" don't you understand. tancredo planted that seed and the liberal media went with it, and IMO, according to tancredo's wishes.

44 posted on 05/06/2005 8:36:59 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: hunter112
Yes, he serves a constituency that likes having a source of cheap illegal labor to keep it prosperous at least, filthy rich at best.

He and Orin Hatch both. Hopefully in 2006 Utah sends them both packing.

45 posted on 05/06/2005 8:37:46 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Dane
What part of lack merit and trumped up and leveled in the hopes of bringing him down and worthless posts that add nothing constructive but only attempt to insult those who disagree with you do you not understand?
46 posted on 05/06/2005 8:40:43 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: SittinYonder
What part of lack merit and trumped up and leveled in the hopes of bringing him down and worthless posts that add nothing constructive but only attempt to insult those who disagree with you do you not understand

Then why did tancredo add, "step aside".

Well what else should I expect, weasle words from a supporter of a weasle politcian(tancredo).

47 posted on 05/06/2005 8:43:31 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: .cnI redruM

Cannon should be tossed out, not Tancredo.

Geez, I hate to see people slandering Xenophon.
He was a brilliant and great man.
The Greeks should have listened to him. He was 100% right.

Instead, they ended up as slaves.


48 posted on 05/06/2005 8:45:09 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (I leave reason and good manners to those that have them.)
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To: Dane

Still working the illegal immigration PR shill routine trying to cut down any conservative who stands for the law and for America ?


49 posted on 05/06/2005 8:46:51 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: Dane
weasle words from a supporter of a weasle politcian

How many illegal immigrants are you employing right now?

50 posted on 05/06/2005 8:47:37 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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