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oil for $15.00 a barrel?
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=349511 ^

Posted on 05/06/2005 1:11:46 PM PDT by thejokker

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To: denydenydeny

Just their daily waste output would power one of these plants nicely.....

See, liberals will solve the energy crisis after all!


81 posted on 05/06/2005 3:01:24 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: Enchante

The Islamonazis are always complaining that we're in the middle east to "take their resources" - as if we don't pay them enough for the oil WE extract from their soil for them. Last time this oil from anything was posted, I suggested that we merely go to the middle east for people. Take their unemployed, uneducated masses, and recycle them into oil. End of terrorism. Extreme fear of the west.

It wasn't a popular idea, even though I was joking. Seriously, I was......


82 posted on 05/06/2005 3:06:17 PM PDT by datura (Fix bayonets. Seal and Deport.)
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To: datura

bttt


83 posted on 05/06/2005 3:08:30 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: Always Right

Non sense all of it. I have my own secret stock of Dodo birds, they work incredibly well except for the horrendous squawking they make when I place them in the grinder.


84 posted on 05/06/2005 3:12:37 PM PDT by Waterleak (I pity the fool)
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To: Physicist
A barrel of light Texas crude weighs 384 lbs (source). 4 billion barrels weighs 768 million tons. How are they going to turn 600 million tons of some stuff into 768 million tons of some other stuff?

They're not making crude oil. They are making the equivalent of #2 fuel oil. Considerably lighter.

85 posted on 05/06/2005 3:30:27 PM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: G32
"This will happen shortly after the tooth fairy pays me back"

It's very possible you're absolutely correct but I've been following this and similar technologies for a long time and I do believe that at some point it will be possible to simply toss trash into what is effectively a cracking tower and dis/re-assemble it into multiple components.

But then I never got the flying car I was promised in the 50's!

86 posted on 05/06/2005 3:37:51 PM PDT by Proud_texan (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: r9etb

"Lessee... 4 billion barrels at 55 gallons/barrel * 8 lbs per gallon = 880 million tons."

You need to re-calculate this - a barrel, when talking about oil, is 42 gallons. Crude oil weighs about 7 lbs/gallon, average. If you calculate this, it's 600 million tons in, 588 million tons out. The material balance checks out. "Matter can neither be created nor destroyed" if we are talking about non-nuclear processes.


87 posted on 05/06/2005 3:40:35 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: thejokker

This was in the May 2003 issue of Discover magazine
http://www.discover.com/issues/may-03/features/featoil/
(only readable by subscribers).

They had a followup you can read for a scaled up production factory
http://www.discover.com/issues/jul-04/features/anything-into-oil/


88 posted on 05/06/2005 3:41:51 PM PDT by Fun Bob
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To: RushCrush

I used spotted owls myself


89 posted on 05/06/2005 3:41:57 PM PDT by packrat35 (reality is for people who can't face science fiction)
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To: John Valentine

"...600 million tons of turkey guts. Thee aren't that many turkeys."

Translate that 600 million tons as organic waste, not just turkey guts. Of course, we need to remember that there are many more turkeys than those being proscessed for Thanksgiving and Christmas - think of the ones you know - some even post on this forum. :)


90 posted on 05/06/2005 3:44:58 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Arkie2

Soylent T ... for turkey.


91 posted on 05/06/2005 3:50:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: thejokker

Our streets and roadways will be smelling like a Thanksgiving kitchen. Yum!


92 posted on 05/06/2005 3:51:56 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Re-elect Dino Rossi in 2005!)
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To: John Valentine
Thee aren't that many turkeys.

That's what I'm thinking. And even if you have other sources of organic material, you're still talking about intermediate sources. The carbon's gotta come from somewhere, and in the case of turkeys it's from turkey feed, which is probably some sort of grain product grown with petroleum-based fertilizers. This is a nifty idea but ultimately it's just a recycling scheme. It doesn't solve the basic problem of where to get the hydrocarbons in the first place.

93 posted on 05/06/2005 3:57:06 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Jackson57

Lol :)


94 posted on 05/06/2005 4:05:45 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: null and void

I used to have to work with long, short and metric tons – and no one would ever tell what type they were using. Now that I’m retired I don’t even want to think of it.


95 posted on 05/06/2005 4:27:04 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott

Oh, there are scores of tons. Not just the long and the short of it!


96 posted on 05/06/2005 4:30:22 PM PDT by null and void (...that no man, rich or poor, free or bond, shall buy or sell, save he that has the chip...)
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To: r9etb

I believe that Discover admitted the error in the letters section in the next issue.


97 posted on 05/06/2005 5:17:08 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: John Valentine

600 million tons is 2 tons for every man woman and child in america per year. Or over 10 pounds per day per person!


98 posted on 05/06/2005 5:19:46 PM PDT by BohDaThone
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To: Centurion2000
You mean we could run gas engines on democrats ? :)

Aha! Thence comes the fowl smell!!

99 posted on 05/06/2005 5:29:40 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: r9etb
Lessee... 4 billion barrels at 55 gallons/barrel * 8 lbs per gallon = 880 million tons.

So apparently we can get greater than 100% mass efficiency on this miracle process.....

The numbers still don't work, but you used the density of water, not oil. Oil is lighter than water (it floats). Petroleum oil has an density of only approximatly 82.2% of water.

100 posted on 05/06/2005 5:38:18 PM PDT by whd23
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