Skip to comments."Congressman Reconquista": Immigration Reformers Not Welcome In GOP
Posted on 05/06/2005 6:18:42 PM PDT by Founding Father
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They're welcome to get an "undocumented" voter to do the voting that this American doesn't want to do anymore.
The solution is at hand. In a few short months, Congress will be enacting immigration reform.
We would be so much smarter to encourage Americans to have more children than to try to assimilate the poorest Mexicans. Our society would be more cohesive. We were all propagandized into limiting our families to two children, and that could certainly change. I am 62 now, but I would rather have had three or four children than have to put up with all these foreigners everywhere I turn. (And, no, I don't mean more welfare).
1. Lower Taxes 2. Privatization of Social Security 3.National sovereignity in mattters of defense
BEN, Ben, the short and the long of "it" is "we" don't "need" you. Don't make it something it ain't. Mexico is emptying entire towns and still whore house Vicente prances around making those ... uh ... statements. He's a public nuiscance ...both sides.
Entire Mexican towns are void due to the venture north.
Do states along the southern border (AZ, NM, TX) support inititiaves? (I already know CA does) What are the chances of something in, say, TX authorizing a state-based border patrol a'la Arnold's suggestion? Maybe his idea deserves to grow :)
I'm sure you have seen the demographic projections. In 15 years there will be no more mexicans available to come to the US. If you think having too many mexicans is a problem, wait until there are not enough.
Well, brother, sounds like YOU even support border enforcement!!! BTW I didn't need one dick dog ILLEGAL to "grow up." I suggest you do the same,
Meanwhile, the worker to retiree ratio has fallen to 3 to 1. Spin that fact.
So, we kick out the illegal aliens and let in more legal immigrants. That'll resolve the problem.
Man, you just presented facts. In the current FR environment of doom and gloom, facts must not be shown. You should only talk ill of President Bush and the Republican party.
1) We have had only token reductions in taxes. Government spending has grown more under this administration than any other in history. Real conservatives would not collect taxes to spend on things that are not constitutionally authorized.
2) The proposal is for partial privatization, with a raise in the cap and means testing.
3) How can you make that statement with Norm Maneta still running the Dept of Transportation our southern border completely unguarded?
This punk should be persona non grata (unwelcome person) at EVERY Republican event in the country. Grassroots Republicans should walk out of the room, en masse, every time he speaks. And they should make some noise in so doing.
Which punk are you talking about?
"DeLays message: Play nice with your Republican colleagues or youre going to remain stuck in your lowly committee positions."
Hmmmm, that's not what George W. Bush did as governor of Texas, when he ran RiNO primary challengers against conservative incumbents on the Texas state school board who were fighting Democrats on the board and the people from Norman Lear's People for the American Way over textbook content. PAW and the NEA were defending socialist and Leftist propaganda in schoolbooks against homegrown Texas critics who objected to children's being propagandized with tendentiously liberal, humanist, and nihilist course content. Bush and his political people weighed in on the wrong side.
Bush also stood aside as gay termites in the state government began quietly allowing homosexual couples to adopt wards of the State, in violation of Texas law, and didn't lift a finger to help a conservative woman whom gay-friendly state administrators fired in retaliation for blowing the whistle on the gay cabal.
There's another problem with DeLay's message:
When your party ceases to discuss public issues openly and honestly, your party becomes a conspiracy against the people as issues go behind closed doors and get settled in backroom deals, anaerobically and out of sight. Running your party out of a back room is how you grow corruption, not honest, clean government.
The World Trade Center was destroyed in less than an hour by illegal immigrants.
If you think having too many Mexicans is a problem, wait until both Texas and California are wall-to-wall Democratic strongholds giving the Rats a lock on the Presidency and the Senate, and their governors are old Mechistas, like current California lieutentant-governor Cruz Bustamante and LA mayor Villaraigosa. Wait until Mexican and Chicano nationalists and irridentists start talking the way the Parti Quebecoise does now up in Canada, about taking States out of the Union.
And if that's still not bad enough, wait until the U.N. sets up a commission run by the Chinese, the Russians, and the French, to oversee the partition of the United States.
We have got to stop letting Rinos like Cannon take precsious seats from real Republicans.
I disagree, the reductions have been substantial. Unfortunately, they've thrown the budget out of balance because there haven't been corresponding reductions in outgo, and there can't be that much reduction in spending when so much of it is for obligations like debt service. At least we got rid of welfare -- but the Congress did that, not the Bush Administration.
Government spending has grown more under this administration than any other in history.
Unfortunately true, and conservatives would have to be unhappy with the degree to which the Administration's behavior has become Keynesian. I think the Administration is actually engaged in pump-priming to fight the recession in financial assets that has been going on since the end of the bull market in 2000.
Real conservatives would not collect taxes to spend on things that are not constitutionally authorized.
I agree, and one of our priorities should be to engineer the gradual withdrawal of government from extraconstitutional activities like Social Security and the repricing, privatization, or even abolition of corporate-welfarist projects like the Federal Reserve, the Corps of Engineers, and the Federal Aviation Administration that were created to benefit primarily corporate interests at the public expense.
Aaaaaah but, this Stupid Party is shrinking. I was a life long republican but no more. I am now completely Independent and look for a GOOD THIRD or FOURTH party.
Whenever I receive a request for donation and/or a questioning to fill out, I return with a little note telling them nicely that they are no longer my party and most of all no more money. I send the note in their prepaid envelope.
They keep coming every single day!
I think we can do something about that in the next election.
I do the same thing.
I get calls, too-- been an activist since Goldwater, so I'm on a lot of lists-- I'm always courteous, but I tell them these are my defining issues:
... and until I see someone actually doing something about them, as opposed to talking about it, not one red cent.
As Jeb Bush said re: Terri, "I've done all I can do..."
Good for you!!!You're sending the only message a politician understands.
The long term solutions to the illegal immigration problem is really indirect.
If America stops paying people in food stamps, medical care, housing, money etc., not to work these people will FINALLY be forced to take the "jobs Americans will not do."
Also, if these handouts were not available, many illegal immigrants would not come here.
Having more children is not the answer when these children will not mow the neighbors lawn for the astronomical amount of $5.00 an hour because he is given everything anyways!
So with the encouragement of the U.S. government and with the financial support of major U.S. corporations and foundations, LULAC, MALDEF, MEChA/MEXA, and La Raza, pillars of the radical ''Hispanic'' lobby, successfully and aggressively promote hatred of the history, identity, culture, language, and laws of the United States.
Hell, our almost all (RINO) republican Texas government has raised taxes and passed a law to give in-state tuition to illegal aliens. The Republicans have left me. The're all either socialists or communists. There is very little hope left for the America I grew up in.
If you like facts, I've got some for you:
AZTLAN LEADER QUOTES
"While I am saying this half serious and half joking, I think we are practicing la reconquista in California."
~ Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General, Feb 2002.
"I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders and that Mexican migrants are an important - a very important - part of this."
~ Ernesto Zedillo, Former President of Mexico, speaking in Chicago, July 23, 1997.
"Mexico extends beyond its borders."
~ Vicente Fox, Current President of Mexico, speaking to a gathering in Milwaukee in July of 2001
"California is going to be a Hispanic State and anyone who doesn't like it should leave. They should go back to Europe."
~ Mario Obledo, President of the Californian Coalition of Hispanic Organisations, June 1998
"Our devil has pale skin and blue eyes..." "To the gringos in the audience, I have one final message to convey, 'Up yours, baby. You've had it, from now on.' "
~ Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas.
"We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population... I love it. They are sh!tting in their pants with fear. I love it.... We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."
~ Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas.
"Remember 187 (proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non citizens) was the last gasp of white America in California."
~ Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party in front of 400 cheering Latinos at U.C. Riverside on January 14, 1995.
"We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos... non-Latinos aren't watching, they aren't raising questions"
~ Fernando Guerra, professor, Loyola Marymount
"Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. .. Through love of having children, we are going to take over."
~ Augustin Cebeda, of the 'Brown Berets', a militant Aztlan group at a violent rally in Los Angeles on July 4, 2000.
"Fair housing agencies report a surge in discrimination by immigrant landlords from many nations who refuse to rent outside their ethnic group."
~ Reported in Los Angeles Times, Nov. 21 2001.
"In an extraordinary political move, President Vicente Fox has announced the formation of a cabinet level agency to govern, protect and provide services to over 20 million Mexicans now living in Aztlan, a territory encompassing most of the southwest part of the USA. President Fox declared yesterday that he will personally lead the new agency he named "Consejo Nacional para las Comunidades Mexicanas en el Exterior" (National Council for Mexican Communities Abroad). The "Council" will consist of the president, most of the cabinet secretaries and a, as of yet unnamed, representative from Aztlan. This is a bold move that essentially extends the arm of the Mexican government into the territories it previously lost during the Mexican-American War of 1848."
~ Reported in "La Voz de Aztlan", August 7, 2002.
"We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or five years or fifteen years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they are going into Dallas, into El Paso, into Houston, into New Mexico, into San Diego, and each one will have embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Americans."
~Thomas Borge, Nicaragua Interior Minister as quoted in the Washington Times, March 27, 1985
Tax reductions were not "Substantial". The government, with the Presidency and both houses of congress controlled by the Republicans, is increasing spending at an alrming rate. Consider the potential tax reductions possible if dspending were reduced to proper levels and compare that to the crumbs we were thrown. If a business acted this way the stock holders would have fired the management long ago.
I think populationist propaganda had less to do with it than hard economic realities. I strongly advocate returning per-child deductions to the real (inflation-adjusted) value they had when the income tax was introduced, instead of treating the decision to have children as essentially equal to the decision to have tropical fish.
Retirees can't be supported on the tax payments of lawn-mowers and toilet-scrubbers; no help there.
We also need to seriously and consistently punish employers who violate laws against hiring illegals. Too many pols of both parties go to bat for the lawbreaking (and campaign-contributing) employer against law enforcement.
Wow. This sounds like terrorism.. Latin Al-Queda setting up 'cells' to murder Americans. Sheese, what are we worrying about security for?? I know I know, Kennedy and McCain are going to fix this. Uh-Huh... back to sleep now America... alllllll is fine.
"Which punk ...?"
He's an opportunists in my book.
How about returning the income tax to the net-net basis on which it was imposed 50 years ago?
I still have my parent's returns for the early 1950's in which they deducted numbers of items that are no longer deductible. The income tax was basically imposed on income over and above the cost of living.
The dramatic expansion of the income tax has been the reduction of deductions, after the steep progressivity was introduced, which originally was justified under the rubric that, well, nobody really needs all that income to live.
Once the high marginal rates were in effect, the Congress went back and reduced deductions, just like they did in 1986 and as they are doing now, effectively, with the Alternative Minimum Tax.
Concurring needs-to-be-emphasized bump.
From his web site. My first litmus test of every male Republican. When did they turn 18 and which branch of the military did they serve in. Chris, a Vietnam age young man, failed the test.
In the future, it will be interesting to see how many of his eight children--particularly his sons, follow in their father's footsteps as opposed to doing the right thing.
Look into Geneva Steel. I don't know. I do know Nucor does quite well without a hint of hiring illegals. His touchiness may have more to do with the "mission work" he was doing while other men his age were sacrificing performing military missions for their country. Apparently he wandered around spanish speaking areas for a couple years in lieu of going to Fort Benning.
I did a quick Babelfish translation since my Spanish is so rusty (haven't had it since college). Nothing new in there...NK is accusing us of forming a dastardly "Plan 5029" with SK whereby we would attack NK. They are screaming that we're getting ready to attack them and are urging all Koreans (northern and southern) to oppose the Imperialist Monster. It's just the usual Marxist hogwash. My question is if these Aztlan pukes are cozying up to the Marxists of the world and, if so, how close that relationship is.
There are plenty of miscreants in the world -- Marxists, Islamofascists, and others, with the same goal: the destruction of the United States. I have no problem imagining them teaming up in pursuit of it.
But what is "Plan 5029"?
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