Skip to comments.INVASION USA Zogby poll: Americans fed up on illegal aliens
Posted on 05/06/2005 6:30:14 PM PDT by Founding Father
Zogby poll: Americans fed up on illegal aliens
Majority against Bush plan for workers, 81% think local police should help feds
Posted: May 6, 2005 7:44 p.m. Eastern
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A new opinion poll by Zogby International indicates Americans are hardly pleased with the Bush administration on the subject of illegal immigration.
The poll, cited on CNN's "Lou Dobbs Tonight" program yesterday, noted a huge majority 81 percent believes local and state police should help federal authorities enforce laws against illegal immigration. Only 14 percent disagreed.
Voters were also asked, "Do you support or oppose the Bush administration's proposal to give millions of illegal aliens guest worker status and the opportunity to become citizens?" Only 35 percent gave their support, and 56 percent said no.
"A majority opposed illegal immigration," pollster John Zogby told CNN. "In fact, when you combine those two terms, 'illegal and immigration,' it really conjures up a considerable amount of negatives. And, in fact, we find that it's really across the board."
According to the report, the greatest opponents of illegal immigration are Democrats, African-Americans, women and people with household income below $75,000, those with the most to lose in the job market.
When it came to the status of the nation's borders, respondents were asked, "Do you agree or disagree that the federal government should deploy troops on the Mexican border as a temporary measure to control illegal immigration?" A clear majority 53 percent agree, while 40 percent disagree.
"The Minuteman program highlighted the fact that we need more tighter border security," Phil Kent of American Immigration Control Foundation told the network. "So I think these numbers again are good. It's a good civics lesson for the American people. It shows our elected leaders that we want action."
In summing up her report, CNN correspondent Lisa Sylvester noted, "So, while the public wants tougher borders, politicians are pushing to leave them open. A real disconnect."
Dobbs responded to that statement, saying: "The disconnect that you referred to, Lisa, between our elected officials and the people of this country is in no on no other issue any more dramatic than on the issue of illegal immigration. The Zogby poll is just simply the most recent in a string of polls that show that the American people want their borders secure, they want immigration laws to be enforced, and to clean up what has become an atrocious mess on the part of our elected representatives serving better the interests of U.S. multinationals than the people who are working for a living in this country."
Within a week of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on the U.S., Zogby polled Americans on border security and immigration issues.
When asked whether the government was doing enough to control the border and screen those allowed into the country, 76 percent said the government was not doing enough.
Regarding future threats to the U.S., 72 percent of likely voters in 2001 said a dramatic increase in resources devoted to border control and enforcement of immigration laws would help reduce the chances of a terrorist attack in the future.
Why does anyone care what Zogby has to say?
But to oppose illegal immigration makes us all bigots and racists...Oh my...
"It's judges and the borders, stupid"
So when is the revolution?
You beat me to it.
Zogby has been dead wrong for years, but suddenly we're supposed to believe it because it reflects beliefs on FR? I'm opposed to illegal immigration too, but a Zogby poll has no meaning.
Personally, I am real prepared to protest at the White House. "Close Our Borders". Never thought it would come to this.
All of the pollsters were within a few points of each other and all of them were within a few points of the actual final result. I don't believe any of the nationally recognized pollsters missed the actual final result by over 5 points and I think that is pretty accurate.
I think this is interesting information and I imagine it is fairly accurate. I won't quibble if it is 57% or 62% support something (or don't support it). The poll paints a reasonably believable picture of how people feel.
I don't Blame you at all,
Actually it would be cheaper and more effective to deploy incapacitating mine-fields. You know, like bouncing betty's or chemical incapaciatants. It would save the taxpayers a lot of money and do a better job of dettering the pond-scum that is heading north.
I'd like to see a Zogby poll asking what American's think of muslims in our midst.
We can win this, folks. The Minuteman Project has done a lot of good.
A broken clock is right twice a day.
Some facts are irrefutable.
we should hire illegal aliens to build the fence
just to upset the unions
Me thinks they will not pay us mind and instead call us extremists and budget up for more CS gas, Kevlar, flash bang's, and speedy print no-knock warrant forms.
This will be Hillary's issue. She will run tough on immigration and the budget deficit. These two issues might be enough to let her sneak in. Of course, the MSM will ignore her positions on other social issues and instead beat the drums about illegal immigration, which this administration has unfortunately ignored.
Zogby got it wrong...
95% is closer to the truth.
That's a better prediction than Jimmy the Greek ever came up with. Money in the bank!
The first time I saw Natalie (not her real name but everyone said she looked like a young Natalie Woods) was at a crawfish boil at Bimbos. Natalie was thumbing meat out of the tails for etouffee with her right hand while sucking heads out of her left hand.
She looked up at me with the sweetest, most innocent smile ever seen at Bimbos and said Hi! It seems she had just moved out of her parents home on the Trinity River and come to Houston to live with her older sister and brother-in-law.
All Natalie had ever known was the river community. The river folk live on land owned by the Trinity River Authority and make a living supplying yellow cats to the restaurants and fish markets in East Texas. Some people say they build their houses out of wood they find floating down the river, but Natalie said her father traded fish to Oggletrees saw mill for surplus building materials.
Natalie was in hog heaven living in Houston. For a girl reared on black beans, rice and backstrap, even a Big Mac was a special experience.
It didnt take long for Natalie to hook up with Lance (not his real name), a journeyman electrician who had recently moved to Houston from Michigan. Like most Michigan-Americans he was superb at explaining to us how we did everything wrong in Texas. Especially irksome to him were our laws that permitted nonunion electricians to work on public buildings such as hotels and shopping malls.
Lance was a man of principles, foremost of which was that he would not unlock his tool box for less than prevailing union wage. After the federally related project for which he had moved down here ended, Lance didnt unlock his toolbox very often. Natalies jobs at Childrens World and Wal-Mart made the payments on his mobile home and pickup truck, but not much more.
Under pressure from Natalies sister and some regulars at Bimbos, Lance finally agreed to consider jobs for a little less than union wage. But after awhile, instead of taking jobs he simply started complaining that there werent any decent jobs because the Mexicans took them all. He quickly learned all the code phrases such as crowded emergency rooms, lowering educational levels, disease, crime, welfare, cultural dilution, invasion, and most righteously, illegal.
He could have accepted a steady job with an electrical service company at which a friend of works, but he told owner that he wasnt going to work for $18 an hour changing light bulbs at used car lots. He told Natalie he didnt get the job because he didnt speak Spanish.
Instead he talked Natalie into getting a higher paying job at one of the topless clubs outside the city limits that will hire 17 year olds to dance. Lance always appeared remorseful about Natalie having to do what she did, but he was adamant that it wasnt his fault, it was the fault of the government for letting in all those Mexicans who took all the jobs.
Natalie doesnt smile anymore. Her sister says Natalie still defends Lance to friends even though she knows that Mexicans arent the real reason Lance wont get a job.
There are many Natalies in America today. Some are young children whose dead-beat fathers are a year behind in child support because the Mexicans got all the jobs. Some are parents whose grown sons have moved back home because the Mexicans got all the good jobs.
Some are young men and women who are discouraged from attending technical schools or applying for entry level jobs because they have heard that only Mexicans are being hired.
But ironically, probably the biggest victims are those who are wasting their lives away complaining about Mexicans instead of getting jobs and building normal lives.
1) The CIA has warned the Administration that the Mexican government is in dire danger of being overthrown by a Hugo Chavez-inspired Communist insurgency.
2) Vicente Fox has insisted that without the "safety valve" of illegal immigration, unemployable Mexicans will throw their support to the Communists.
3) A Communist government in Mexico, allied with Chavez and backed by the drug cartels, would immediately become Al Qaeda's second home. Terrorists would be free to cross the border with even less restrictions than they have now, and also likely get free weapons and ammunition from the Mexican government.
4) By allowing virtually unrestricted immigration, Fox and Bush hope that potential revolutionaries will go to America, see the capitalist system in action, and be innoculated against Marxist lunacy.
5) Bush dares not breathe a word of this to the American public, who would rightfully wonder why they are expected to give up their jobs and cities to Third World trash just so Vicente Fox and his ilk can keep their palaces. Thus, we hear the silly excuses that the Administration is making.
6) The CIA evidently fears that a serious effort to close the border would lead directly to a revolution in Mexico. Therefore, Bush will never offer more than half-hearted support for any enforcement measures, and will act just as he has been - as if he is hoping the whole issue will just go away.
Yes, the entire border issue is about labor unions, and lazy Americans.
I'd continue, but I prefer to keep my posting abilities.
How about one simple explanation for the president: He's a globalist. No tinfoil required that way.
Nobody knows, and our president and AG don't care.
Never fear, I heard this morning that Kennedy-McCain is on the way to fix the immigration problems. Stay tuned!
Pretty hilarious, coming from someone who has admitted to hiring illegal aliens to save money in the past.
U.S. Constitution Article 1 Section 8 Clause 15:
"The Congress shall have Power to provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,
You are not much of a fiction writer. You better keep your day job, which seems to be as a hack for the liberal GOP establishemnt.
RPTFLOL! Pathetic attempt at non-fiction.
So, they come here and still demand communist-collectivist freebies? Really, what's the difference. We still have a large enough chunk of them that will not succeed and fall victim to our own socialists here in this country. And another large chunk that will sympathize with any movement if it has a Latino logo on it.
This is certain cultural suicide. I'd say there is more hope with the other outcome, if your scenario were true.
The economics of this issue for workers are as simple as simple as supply and demand. Other things being equal, if the supply of workers is increased, the market price (wages) for workers will fall. Millions of illegal aliens cannot just be dumped into a labor market without depressing wages.
There are people who benefit from illegal immigration. Obviously, the employers who illegally hire them benefit because their costs are reduced. And, all of us as consumers benefit to some extent from those lower costs.
But American workers and taxpayers (particularly local taxpayers) are taking a bath. We just can't expect them to be happy about that. ;-)
LOL. Indeed. To think someone thought a poll was required. What a waste of time and effort.
This is a bad rap any way you slice it. If Bush doesn't hammer down on immigration, the media will continue these stories that say the country wants it done. And if he does hammer down, the media will do stories everyday on those cold heartless, racist republicans, and it will sway enough hispanics to never vote republican. It is an issue to be dealt with. But I fear it may cripple the republican party either way they go. The media will frame the opinions. It is truly sad.
While we're at it maybe we should make English our official language.
Is he right because his poll agrees with your opinion?
I try to stay consistant and completely ignore anything Zogby releases.
I would like to think you saw some of my posts over the last couple of months stating the same thing.
I am glad to see at least one other "contitutionalist" at this forum.
It was also another nice touch that you posted FreeRepublic.com's logo stating the forum's motto:
"Defending Our Constitution."
Oddly enough, this article (June 2004) begins as follows:
"JUAN (not his real name) had a cruel May. In that month alone, seven of his friends and acquaintances were kidnapped, and three of those were killed."
If so many are opposed to illegal immigration, why do they elect so many politicians who are strongly in favor of it?
I only take polls seriously when they are reflected in the voting booth.
"We need to build a damn fence. No immigration policy means anything until we have a way to physically keep the illegals out..."
I beg to differ. Land mines, lots of land mines. As for a fence, I suppose, but put plenty of sparkly glass pieces. As for those snotty hippies putting water fountains in the desert, add a little cyanide. Sounds evil, but I am fed up.
When this open border policy goes awry, and it will, the proponents of it will face hell fire and damnation, one "George W. Bush" will suffer more than any other.
I am so sick of the gutless stance of our #@*&$% elected politicians I simply cannot state how I really, really feel, for FR does have standards of decorum.
I probably first saw those parts of the Constitution posted here on FR by you! So THANKS!!
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