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Illegals flow into Arizona like water through a broken dam
Manchester Union Leader ^ | May 7, 2005 | Renee Downing

Posted on 05/07/2005 5:09:05 AM PDT by billorites

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Comment #51 Removed by Moderator

To: IslamoCommieObserver
Why would a Liberal like you, an anti-American, Constitution-hater, hang out on a Conservative web forum? Are you 12 years old, mentally handicapped, hooked on drugs? Did your mommy not love you or hold you enough? What's your deal?? Why do you hate America? Why do you not know right from wrong?? Were you raised in a barn?

Sincerely,
ICO

Am I on "Candid Camera"?

This is too good.

Keep on posting ICO.

52 posted on 05/07/2005 10:20:09 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Know your rights
LBJ helped create the problem ... and until it's fixed, unskilled immigration will be a drain on our society.

Did you have a reply, or are you too busy baiting the overexcitable?

54 posted on 05/07/2005 10:23:00 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: IslamoCommieObserver
You are an embarrassment to Free Republic, unless I misunderstand the purpose of this site.

ICO

Oh sheesh here comes the online Joan of Arc act.

55 posted on 05/07/2005 10:24:26 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
LBJ helped create the problem ... and until it's fixed, unskilled immigration will be a drain on our society.

Did you have a reply, or are you too busy baiting the overexcitable?

57 posted on 05/07/2005 10:29:45 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: IslamoCommieObserver
What exactly is your angle in this criminal activity? Are you an illegal? Do you utilize and exploit these poor souls? What exactly is your problem?

Dude, IMO, you have the problem, going after a lowly internet poster like me.

What's wrong Err Amrica's failings getting you down?

Don't worry, my ego is not boosted by this DUmmie attack, unlike those who get off in front of a camera(pelosi, schumer, et al).

58 posted on 05/07/2005 10:30:13 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
From the article:

...Thanks to the North American Free Trade Agreement, competition with inexpensive American corn has ruined tens of thousands of small Mexican farmers,...

It seems contradictory that the cheap labor that is thriving in this country is supposedly unable to provide the same economic advantage for their own.

The author of this article is whining about what is, on both sides of the argument, while proposing no workable solutions. Unfortunately, that is common even here on FR. The author does point out that the "solutions" create problems of their own while not really solving the core problem at all.

The benefit of the status quo from the Mexican point of view is they can simultaneously dump their poor on us, eliminating any need for welfare spending on their part even if they were so inclined, and the income from the illegals sent back home is their third largest source of income, and it is in American dollars.

Cheap labor here keeps salaries suppressed just as cheap products from abroad keep prices down. None of this would be true were we not fighting our own leftists at home. Rest assured that anything the Democrats propose, from increasing minimum wages to drivers licenses for illegals, is to handicap and transform our constitutional government that provided for our freedom and prosperity. The only reason they aren't squawking about cheap goods from China is because China is our enemy and their friend.

The thing that will eventually force a solution, whatever it turns out to be, to the illegal problem is the rising crime rate brought about by Mexican gangs. Hitler loosed the criminals on society to create unrest and demoralize society. The Communist do the same. Castro emptied his prisons and asylums on us. Democrats fight for the rights of the criminal scum as well as the killing of the innocent unborn and disabled. Is there a pattern here? Absolutely, and the sooner we stop fighting all the problems created by the left and start fighting the Democrats themselves, the sooner we will get back to sanity.

Rest assured, if they ever gain complete control these problems will be solved. All trouble makers, no matter their origin, will be eliminated. History is full of examples.

59 posted on 05/07/2005 10:30:19 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not everything that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: IslamoCommieObserver

Knock it off.

It's new posters like you who are getting all of our illegal immigration threads pulled! Once the threads turn nto flame wars, the threads are pulled.

Debate the facts and we win EVERY time.





60 posted on 05/07/2005 10:30:28 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: billorites

The article has internal logical inconsistencies - a sure sign of liberal thinking...


61 posted on 05/07/2005 10:31:38 AM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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To: Dane

"The point is that America has survived and prospered with every wave of immigrants, be they the Irish, Itlaians, Jews, etc.etc."

There has never been an immigration wave like this in US history. I guess we'll see how it will change the country.


63 posted on 05/07/2005 10:32:09 AM PDT by mthom
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To: IslamoCommieObserver
I guess I'm the 'overexcitable'! :-)

'fraid so. As onyx says, "Debate the facts and we win EVERY time."

64 posted on 05/07/2005 10:32:36 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: ProudVet77
Most people east of the Mississippi have no idea what is going west of it. Where are all of the major media outlets? East of the Mississippi.

Danbury mayor calls for deputizing state police as immigration agents [Connecticut]

See also:

Connecticut Town Struggles With Illegal Immigrants

Thursday, April 28, 2005

DANBURY, Conn. - This middle-class New England suburb is nowhere near an international border but it still has the illegal immigration problems familiar to cities like San Diego and Tucson, Ariz.

Mayor Mark Boughton blames the government for his town's inability to cope with 15,000 illegal immigrants, approximately 19 percent of the overall population.

"This is one community that has been incredibly stressed by failed federal policy and we need help," said Boughton.

Because the illegal residents aren't counted in the U.S. census, Danbury doesn't receive any federal aid for them.

"In terms of our social services, this presents a tremendous strain, particularly on quality of life of our neighborhoods, our schools our health care system," Boughton said.

Residents complain the influx is killing property values. Homeowner Peter Gadiel said neighbors are fed up. "They're blue collar workers and their whole life savings is tied up in their house and they're seeing their neighborhood being destroyed."

The mayor says he wants state police officers to be deputized as federal immigration officers - giving them access to a federal database and helping them track illegal immigrants. But Connecticut's attorney general said Boughton needs the approval of the governor and others before that can happen.

Boughton has set up a task force to inspect neighborhoods that have received a lot of complaints about buildings housing illegal immigrants. In one home, the task force found 30 cots in the basement, each one being rented for $5 a nigh

65 posted on 05/07/2005 10:32:45 AM PDT by antonia ("Democracy is the worst type of government, excepting all others." ~ Churchill)
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To: IslamoCommieObserver
Knock it off.
67 posted on 05/07/2005 10:38:08 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: IslamoCommieObserver

At last, a workable solution! Good idea.


68 posted on 05/07/2005 10:38:16 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR ("I believe in background checks at gun shows or anywhere" - GWB)
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To: IslamoCommieObserver; Dane
Now, THAT'S a good post! I'd be surprised if Dane has anything substantive to say in reply.
70 posted on 05/07/2005 10:42:07 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights; IslamoCommieObserver
Now, THAT'S a good post! I'd be surprised if Dane has anything substantive to say in reply

Oh you mean like ICO's reply #62, quote,

So be it. This Dane character should be deported"

You all should really get off, and in this I mean, the addictive race baiting ways of tom tancredo rhetoric.

74 posted on 05/07/2005 10:49:47 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: VOX9
As long as people believe this bullcrap, illegal immigration will continue and current illegals will not be deported. In reality, as the cheap labor market shrinks, pay will go up and the unemployed LEGAL workers will take the jobs and benefit from the increased pay. When we no longer have to pay for free medical care, education and incarceration of illegals, our expenses (and crime) will go down. What doesn't wash we can handle, and our borders will be protected.

Exactly correct.
75 posted on 05/07/2005 10:50:09 AM PDT by UScbass
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Comment #77 Removed by Moderator

To: IslamoCommieObserver; Dane

You don't get it, do you?

KNOCK IT OFF! Stop with the personal attacks.

Dane is a good FReeper who just happens to hold a differing view.

Personal attacks will not only get the thread pulled
but also NEVER ever persuade anybody to our side.


78 posted on 05/07/2005 10:54:28 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: IslamoCommieObserver
Dane is over at DU trying to come up with more material.

Dude you really shouldn't post form your bathroom(not good etiqutte), but what the hey, why should I be the one to chastise you as you are "sitting" in the bathroom posting, from your wieless connection and, IMO, getting some sort of weird pleasure, automatically posting to every word I say.

Now go back to DU and say how tolerant I've become.

79 posted on 05/07/2005 10:55:10 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: IslamoCommieObserver
So, Dane can attack anyone he wants with impunity, but Lord forbid anyone call him on it?

Is that you hillary?

82 posted on 05/07/2005 10:58:14 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: IslamoCommieObserver; Dane


Don't engage. We are constantly baited, just for the purpose of getting the threads pulled.

It's "their" tactic, and it's almost always successful.

I can list screen names of GOOD FReepers for you who have been banned falling into the baiting game.





83 posted on 05/07/2005 10:59:06 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: ProudVet77

You are correct about MSM not broadcasting the illegals problem. The only real mention of illegals was a special by Al Roker when 2 illegals were killed on Long Island, NY. I have many friends along the east coast and they say that many places it appears that they are in a foriegn country when they go to the market.


86 posted on 05/07/2005 11:00:59 AM PDT by NY Attitude
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To: billorites
[ Illegals flow into Arizona ]

All orchestrated by the Mexican gov't, ugh.. drug cartels.. ugh .. democracy.. ugh.. Mob Rule..

87 posted on 05/07/2005 11:02:09 AM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: IslamoCommieObserver; Dane

No, that will serve no useful purpose.
Debate the issue, and don't take the bait.

The owner of this site happens to agree with Dane.

Please trust me on this. We lose too many threads, and too many FReepers.

Think about the "lurkers" -- we are trying to persuade them to our side.


88 posted on 05/07/2005 11:03:29 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: VOX9

Hit me the same way, only took 5 paragraphs and the BS meter pegged to the high side. At that point I stopped reading.


89 posted on 05/07/2005 11:05:28 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: onyx; IslamoCommieObserver
No, that will serve no useful purpose. Debate the issue, and don't take the bait.

The owner of this site happens to agree with Dane.

What Bait?

I've wanted to debat the issue, then I myself become the issue.

Oh BTW, nice segue for boot hill( IslamoCommieObserver) onyx, who has taken over todd's place as the cyber rubber rooms bouncer(i.e bouncing off the walls).

91 posted on 05/07/2005 11:09:09 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: IslamoCommieObserver


Nope, regretfully, it's not a typo.


93 posted on 05/07/2005 11:11:25 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: IslamoCommieObserver; Travis McGee; onyx
The contents of Dane's posts read like a Liberal-Communists'. Is the owner of the site a LibCommie just fronting as a Conservative to lead the sheep to the slaughter?

Yeah whatever, boothill.

Don't you and travis have a bircher meeting to attend to.

Don't want to make you guys late on account of my part.

94 posted on 05/07/2005 11:13:56 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: IslamoCommieObserver

Here's one example:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1390577/posts?page=138#138.

Feel free to peruse his other comments.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?id=1


95 posted on 05/07/2005 11:14:41 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Gigantor
Has America been a land of illegal immigrants for 229 years?

Well, if the indians had a bigger defense budget and better border security, they could have kept that illegal Eurotrash out!

96 posted on 05/07/2005 11:15:44 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: onyx; Dane

Dane hates the USA and is watching gleefuly as the Southern Border destroys it.

To win, he merely needs to make sure no one does anything and that anyone who is against illegal aliens is called "racist."

He is winning, but the tide is turning.

Yes, Dane, I mean you.


97 posted on 05/07/2005 11:16:04 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (First you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women (HJ Simpson))
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To: freedumb2003
Dane hates the USA and is watching gleefuly as the Southern Border destroys it

Thank you, harry reid spokesperson.

98 posted on 05/07/2005 11:17:31 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane

"What Bait?" "I've wanted to debat the issue, then I myself become the issue."

Eddie Haskell couldnt have said it better.


99 posted on 05/07/2005 11:17:37 AM PDT by mthom
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To: mthom
Eddie Haskell couldnt have said it better

Ward, you shouldn't be so hard on the Dane.

100 posted on 05/07/2005 11:19:08 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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