Skip to comments.With Republicans Like These, Who Needs Democrats?
Posted on 05/07/2005 6:36:26 AM PDT by worldclass
Sad to say, even a cursory review of this record reveals the fact that the Republican Party in Washington, D.C., has become little more than a carbon copy of the Democratic Party.
Phillips writes, "Sadly, the GOP's elected and appointed officials conform themselves almost without exception to that which Mr. Bush espouses, including:
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"Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II
Republicans have their voter base perfectly triangulated. As long as they toe the line on God, Guns, and Gays, they can do whatever the hell they want without fear of losing votes.
If Howard Phillips is a friend of Chuck Baldwin, then I will discount everything Baldwin has to say.
Nope.Spending and illegals could be the death of the GOP.
In my local republican organization people that have, for decades, given time and money to the party are disgusted to the point where they say they'll just sit out the next election(s) both working for the party and voting until the Republican's get the message. The figure that other than the WOT things couldn't be much different, especially with a divided congress.
The republican presidential contenders will all lurch right because that's where the base is. What will be telling is how far the nominee then moves to the mushy middle.
There is one condition that would negate this and that's if Hilliary runs. In that case the faithful would hang in, but not because of anything the Republicans are doing.
My two cents anyways.
I agree with you - if the Republicans don't get their act together and stop ignoring their base things could become very difficult for them.
I also like your tag line. I think Mike Pence is fantastic!
So, are you saying we've boxed ourselves in? We can't go extreme right because no one would take us seriously and obviously, ethics and convictions disallow any acquiescing to the left? Hmmmm...????
If the GOP doesn't get it's act together fast they will loose voters to the Libertarians.
Or the Constitution Party. When a stiff like Kerry almost knocked off Bush, some self-examination is in order. Guiliani, give us a break.
As a life-time Republican (and member of the local committee), I am sick that the elephants do little different than the jackasses. They elephants make big promises but then morph into donkeys once elected.
1. No Child Left Behind just gives more boost to the DOE...eliminate the DOE and get the Feds out of local schools.
2. Open borders and totally free trade just help the Mexicos and Chinas of the world while doing nothing for citizens.
3. Funding for Planned Parenthood, NPR and any other organization (even Conservative ones) should be cut off.
4. Why are we still in the UN?
Yet, the elephants do nothing. To quote a famous movie line:
"I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore."
And that includes a run by Hitlery. The elephants need to show that they have balls of the same size.
Oh sheesh another rant from, GW Bush is the anti-christ, chucky baldwin.
Great thoughtful post. Say HI to Lincoln Chaffee and Romney for me.
Great thoughtful post. Say HI to Lincoln Chaffee and Romney for me
You can have spineless wimp chaffee, as for Romney, he ain't half bad as he has to deal with an over 2/3rd's majority democrat and socially liberal taxachusetts legislature as Governor.
Chuck Baldwin? Good grief.
Please. They don't need to show them, just use them.
What my tag line says.....
Along with NPR increasing funding for the NEA.
A total failure to exercise the checks and balances that the founders gave them to keep the judiciary in balance with the other two branches. Nothing but hot air.
What's most galling to be is that they take an oath to uphold the constitution, so help them God yet they can pass/sign legislation that they publically state is unconstitutional.
There's more than gonads missing, frankly they're reminding me of X-42 more and more every day.
After 40 years of giving them time, money and bleeding in the trenches if they can't fight for the Constitution I can't/won't fight for them.
With or without such "Republicans", they're still not needed.
(and wouldn't be dreadfully missed...)
I sure hope so :-)
Not sure that spending is an issue. Even in a conservative forum like this, concern about government spending is rarely voiced. Now on the other hand, taxes ...
"Along with NPR increasing funding for the NEA."
8 billion extra for the NEA. Viagara for seniors driving Jaguars. Medical plan to bust all budgets. Encouraging illegals to come in by promising amnesty.
Yeah boy!! Real conservative.
It is a real possibility. Right now, the GOP is run by fiscal liberal/social conservative politicians. This is out of step with most of the party, but the other option is the fully liberal democratic party.
The emerging power center in US politics are the fiscal conservative/social moderate groups such as the small "l" libertarians and the "South Park republicans". These groups vote GOP now, but as the party goes further to the left on fiscal matters and further to the right on social matters (morality police), the Libertarian party will look more attractive.
Hopefully these groups can convice the big "L" Libertarians to adopt realistic stances on national defense and border patrol. The party has it wrong now, but so does every other party.
Unfortuately, we are going to have to have power shift to the democrats to get the attention of the GOP. A lot of damage can be done in four years, but it is a short amount of time compared keeping the current incarnation of the GOP in power.
"as for Romney, he ain't half bad as he has to deal with an over 2/3rd's majority democrat and socially liberal taxachusetts legislature as Governor."
Living in MA, I tend to differ. He speaks up while in SC but does not lead the charge against the sodomites while in-state.
Furthermore, he appointed a very liberal Liet. Gov., Kerry-Healy, while stabbing a more conservative one, Rappaport, in the back.
great guy he is..
"I will discount everything Baldwin has to say"
I would say that was a very wise decision.
Spending is probably not going to change tooooo much no matter who is in the majority - both Republicans and DemocRATs are addicted to getting reelected. They can say whatever they want during the election campaign, they change once they get in office. Who can blame them? It's a great gig. All kinds of perks for our elected servants.
I'm not critical of No Child... It is disgraceful that any child in the USA should graduate from elementary school, not to mention high school, not knowing how to read and add. The argument is whether the Feds should be in charge. Maybe, because IMHO, the inner cities where this travesty most often occurs are mostly democRAT machine cities, and someone needed to hold them accountable for their failing schools - the voters, indoctrinated democrats - certainly were not.
The borders and illegal aliens. A disgraceful situation, and I am more than annoyed that we can't defend our sovereign borders and contain immigration. No excuse for that.
CFR was and is absolutely shameful. Goes back to my point about Dems and Reps. getting into office, and securing their positions of power. Great gig if you can get it.
Enough. I can always find more to whine about later. LOL
With a $52 BILLION REDUCTION IN THE DEFICIT ..??
I think the illegal immigration issue needs to be correctly addressed. Even Arnold can see the writing on the wall.
Yup. Can you imagine what the frothing at the mouth would be like here had it been Clinton doing all this stuff? We'd be going nuts.
In other words the "Libertarian Party" should stop being "libertarian." Since the republicans are the only people with "realistic stances," all libertarians should now switch and become republicans in the new non-libertarian republican Libertarian Party.
Hmmm.... and you believe this?
ROTF....I thing your Pogo tagline says it all : )
The best part of the column is the headline.
good point. pinging a "loyal opposition" FRiend to it.
Unfortunately, we don't have the time. How many nukes could be smuggled into the country in 4 years of Hitlery? How many cities are you willing to see wiped off the map?
You should, regardless. I used to get his newsletter, but it became more and more hateful against the President. Practically called him the anti-Christ.
Hmmm; you don't think, with our porous borders, they can't be suggled in under Bush?
Of course. But at least we're keeping them busy for now on their home ground. Bush has publicly stated that Iran will not be allowed to develop a nuke.
Hitlery would just pull back and count on the world being nice to us.
You have a point there. BTW, I meant "smuggled"
Already happening. I bailed on those Big Government goons after the post-94 cave-in.
I will vote for those with real principles, not just election ambitions, and think it will take real serious problems to broom these bastards.
So I'm waiting for that.
Until you actually do stop donating to and voting for them, they don't give a damn what you think and can take you for granted.
So, have you stopped giving them money and votes yet?
Yup, and I was sure to let them know it.
Voter by voter, they'll feel the heat once they join the Whigs in influence.
Truer words were never spoken. When you look at guys like Specter, McCain, Hatch, Santorum, to name a few. It's obvious they are NOT Conservative!
It doesn't have to come to that. Constitution and Libertarian Party members could use the GOP to their advantage, if they were wise.
How many people here realize just how mortally wounded the Democrat Party is? The party of the jackass is dying and aborting itself like there is no tomorrow. And rightist third parties can deliver the death blow once and for all if they use the GOP, then split off.
America is a two-party system. The only question is which two parties will there be?
I am one of the people here who does not "realize just how mortally wounded the Democratic Party is." Their over all agendas are are not only accepted by most people, but even being furthered by the Republican Party. The traditional center line in the country between authoritarianism and freedom has moved toward more authoritarianism, of both left and right varieties. As I see it conservative and liberal visions of freedom are now lost in the bureaucratic and legalistic dust. I admit I may be wrong here, I have often missed the truth staring me in the face. So please enlighten.
...Constitution and Libertarian Party members could use the GOP...
Keep in mind the Libertarian Party is not a conservative or rightwing party. It just has a conservative and rightwing agenda. Don't be fooled. I know, I'm a Libertarian.