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Connecticut Town Struggles With Illegal Immigrants
http://www.foxnews.com ^ | Thursday, April 28, 2005 | fox news

Posted on 05/07/2005 10:42:36 AM PDT by antonia

DANBURY, Conn. - Mayor Mark Boughton blames the government for his town's inability to cope with 15,000 illegal immigrants, approximately 19 percent of the overall population.

"This is one community that has been incredibly stressed by failed federal policy and we need help," said Boughton.

Because the illegal residents aren't counted in the U.S. census, Danbury doesn't receive any federal aid for them.

"In terms of our social services, this presents a tremendous strain, particularly on quality of life of our neighborhoods, our schools our health care system," Boughton said.

Residents complain the influx is killing property values. Homeowner Peter Gadiel said neighbors are fed up. "They're blue collar workers and their whole life savings is tied up in their house and they're seeing their neighborhood being destroyed."

The mayor says he wants state police officers to be deputized as federal immigration officers - giving them access to a federal database and helping them track illegal immigrants. But Connecticut's attorney general said Boughton needs the approval of the governor and others before that can happen.

Boughton has set up a task force to inspect neighborhoods that have received a lot of complaints about buildings housing illegal immigrants. In one home, the task force found 30 cots in the basement, each one being rented for $5 a night.

This middle-class New England suburb is nowhere near an international border but it still has the illegal immigration problems familiar to cities like San Diego and Tucson, Ariz.

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1 posted on 05/07/2005 10:42:37 AM PDT by antonia
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To: antonia

Republicans would lose both houses of congress if the Democrats really pushed this issue.


2 posted on 05/07/2005 10:44:41 AM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: bahblahbah

Agreed. Americans are sick of it. Such has been suggested to the Party leadership again and again. But they NEVER listen.


3 posted on 05/07/2005 10:48:12 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schindler was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
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To: antonia
In one home, the task force found 30 cots in the basement, each one being rented for $5 a night.

30 X $5 = $150 per day = $1050 per week = about $4200-4500 per month. Was the homeowner or the person renting the place out, charged?

4 posted on 05/07/2005 10:52:23 AM PDT by ikka
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To: antonia
I think the people of this community should ask themselves if they too had a hand in this influx. If so many illegals are in this town, they have to ask themselves, why? The citizens are the ones hiring them. The illegals are their maids, child care providers, landscapers and gardeners and drivers. They fix and build their homes.

Go to the posh Hamptons in NY and when you see who rides the buses in and out town, you know that it's not just fast-food chains, Mega-Stores and construction workers hiring them. Even obscenely wealthy people want to save a few bucks.
5 posted on 05/07/2005 10:57:26 AM PDT by two134711 (If you're too open minded, your brains will fall out.)
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To: TAdams8591

They'll have to, sooner or later...either in office or in trying to take it back, their choice.


6 posted on 05/07/2005 10:58:25 AM PDT by Eeper
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To: Baynative

Good, they shouldn't get any federal aid for the illegals. Just kick them out instead.


8 posted on 05/07/2005 11:01:25 AM PDT by Pete98 (After his defeat by the Son of God, Satan changed his name to Allah and started over.)
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To: two134711
This is a corporate driven phenomenon. Cheap labor.

The American Pimples want cheap goods, but their going to pay one way or another.

9 posted on 05/07/2005 11:02:00 AM PDT by zarf
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To: zarf

their=they're (frustrated sigh)


10 posted on 05/07/2005 11:02:54 AM PDT by zarf
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To: bahblahbah
Republicans would lose both houses of congress if the Democrats really pushed this issue.

Yes, but the Democrats are counting on those now illegal hispanic votes in future. This is the best chance for a third party candidate, average Americans are fed-up with this travesty.

11 posted on 05/07/2005 11:03:27 AM PDT by xJones (A real country has real borders)
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To: antonia
But Connecticut's attorney general said Boughton needs the approval of the governor and others before that can happen.

It's unbelievable that a community's population can grow to twenty percent illegal and NOTHING IS DONE ABOUT IT! What is the problem with the governor? I've come to the conclusion that our system has created a class of lawyer/politicians who are fearless when it comes to trashing political opponents in order to gain power, but who are gutless and impotent when it comes to governing.

12 posted on 05/07/2005 11:04:32 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: antonia

LOL, Feel our pain. We are overloaded with illegal aliens, and no one still wants to talk about it. Out hospitals are going out of business, trauma centers in remaining hospitals are going defunct, Schools are wayyyyyy overcrowded, and so on and so on and so on.

Meanwhile, Mexico and all the other countries are strip mining this nations wealth and NO ONE CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


13 posted on 05/07/2005 11:04:42 AM PDT by television is just wrong (http://heidisblogs.blogspot.com/ Visit the ads, thanks.)
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To: zarf

Don't worry I'm not Xenalyte. :) I'm not a stickler for proper grammar. Your point got across, and it was well-taken!


14 posted on 05/07/2005 11:05:41 AM PDT by two134711 (If you're too open minded, your brains will fall out.)
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To: bahblahbah

They won't


15 posted on 05/07/2005 11:05:43 AM PDT by television is just wrong (http://heidisblogs.blogspot.com/ Visit the ads, thanks.)
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To: TAdams8591

They are not called the stupid party for no reason.


16 posted on 05/07/2005 11:09:03 AM PDT by winodog (We need to pull the fedgov.con's feeding tube)
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To: Pete98

No you will just have what Mr. Hahn said after he was elected in Los Angeles. "Los Angeles is a Mexican City". No one wants to hurt their feelings.


17 posted on 05/07/2005 11:09:04 AM PDT by television is just wrong (http://heidisblogs.blogspot.com/ Visit the ads, thanks.)
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To: TAdams8591
"Americans are sick of it. Such has been suggested to the Party leadership again and again. But they NEVER listen."

We, we'll just vote the SOB's out!!

18 posted on 05/07/2005 11:11:25 AM PDT by blam
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To: bahblahbah

I don't know if the dems would win over the illegals. The dems use to have a large PTA/Soccer mom base of support. The introduction of homo agenda's to the school curriculum is a major issue they won't be forgetting anytime soon.


19 posted on 05/07/2005 11:11:37 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: two134711

>>>The citizens are the ones hiring them.

I can't speak for CT; but in NJ, it is the politicians that hire them, Pay for Play contract bids.

They pay the illegal workers peanuts and then bill the general fund the top going market price for the jobs they do.

Don't know where the price difference goes.

Maybe if former Gov Whitmann is a member of this forum, she might come over and explain it to us.


20 posted on 05/07/2005 11:14:32 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: two134711
The illegals are their maids, child care providers, landscapers and gardeners and drivers. They fix and build their homes.

The article says that this is a blue collar community. It is unlikely they are hiring maids and nannies. I would check out the larger industries in the area.

Do they have any chicken processing plants in the area? There have been cases were large companies have actually imported illegals to provide cheap labor. The large influx into this community suggests that this is likely the cause.
21 posted on 05/07/2005 11:16:41 AM PDT by redheadtoo
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To: ikka
In one home, the task force found 30 cots in the basement, each one being rented for $5 a night.
30 X $5 = $150 per day = $1050 per week = about $4200-4500 per month. Was the homeowner or the person renting the place out, charged?

That's about as much as it would take a US citizen to live in Danbury each month, while paying taxes and paying for all the freebies which the immigrants get. Especially considering the impossible road situation now.  What used to be a very well laid out system is now congested and hazarded at every turn by illegal immigrants driving, without license or insurance, yet damaging property everywhere.

see: Vehicle impound exemption proposed for illegal immigrants

DPS arrests 2 after mile-long chase (Driver deported 17 times)

 

22 posted on 05/07/2005 11:21:53 AM PDT by antonia ("Democracy is the worst type of government, excepting all others." ~ Churchill)
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To: antonia; All
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23 posted on 05/07/2005 11:24:42 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: antonia

You know the illegal Brazilians you keep reading about?

This is another one of their footholds.


24 posted on 05/07/2005 11:28:57 AM PDT by TFine80
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To: bahblahbah
Republicans would lose both houses of congress if the Democrats really pushed this issue.

Probably, but could they ever really do that. Aren't they counting on illegals someday becoming future Democrat voters? The unions have flipped on this along time ago, recognizing that immigrants -- legal or illegal -- provide them with growth opportunities.

25 posted on 05/07/2005 11:31:49 AM PDT by x
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To: x

Illegal immigration, free trade, and the retiring of the baby boomers will bankrupt this country, kill the middle class, and put us towards the fast track to communism. These issues can be managed with but our government just seems to be run by bumbling idiots. I truely believe these are the last great days of America with the types of people we have running this country.


26 posted on 05/07/2005 11:36:33 AM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: Baynative
"Because the illegal residents aren't counted in the U.S. census, Danbury doesn't receive any federal aid for them. "

But they are counted. There is is box on the questionnaire for the census taker to mark "Hispanic", but not for "illegal", or "citizen"

This is just another bottom feeding local politician whining for more federal money and shifting the blame from his incompetence and corruption to the scapegoat group de jure.

27 posted on 05/07/2005 11:40:31 AM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: redheadtoo
The article says that this is a blue collar community. It is unlikely they are hiring maids and nannies.

Many of the towns near Danbury are exceedingly rich. New Caanan, Ridgefield, Wilton. Many maids work in those towns -- and, of course, must find a nearby town in which to live.

28 posted on 05/07/2005 11:45:43 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: TFine80
You know the illegal Brazilians you keep reading about? This is another one of their footholds.

Tell me about it... I'm not that far from Danbury, and the place was awash in Brazillians ten years ago.

Now? Forget it.

29 posted on 05/07/2005 11:47:39 AM PDT by Legion
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To: Calpernia
Oh, certainly the politicians are hiring them and often allowing them to live on government assistance (??). But we have to be honest, even middle class communities use illegal labor, if not as maids and gardeners, then at least as busboys in restaurants and day laborers. Try going to a McDonalds and you find yourself longing for the days of a stoned teenager serving you instead of someone who can't even understand "hold the ketchup."

A few towns over from where I live, in the working class community of Farmingville, NY, they are having a huge problem with illegals. These folks line up along the main intersections, blocking tarffic, and causing accidents. So how do the local politicians want to handle this? They want to build a "safehouse" where all the illegals can amass so that contractors can pick them up safely! It's insane.

30 posted on 05/07/2005 11:49:54 AM PDT by two134711 (If you're too open minded, your brains will fall out.)
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To: two134711

You are right. I should have used better wording. Citizens do hire them too. But the facilitators are the corrupt politicians that skim the difference from the actual billing.


31 posted on 05/07/2005 11:52:35 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: two134711
Downtown Danbury used to be mostly Black, Portuguese and Vietnamese who churches brought in as refugees after the fall of Saigon. The Vietnamese took care of a pigeon problem which had plagued Danbury after the building of  i84. All these people are no longer visible, only the Mexicans and South Americans, who were brought up by their Portuguese's communities ties, which now dominate Danbury as if someone just brought them en mass. Downtown Danbury is Spanish speaking, signs are in Spanish, and many 'help wanted' ads are looking only for those who can speak Spanish.

I have been looking for this cheap housekeeping which all these pro illegal immigration people seem to promise, and all I can find is the usual $60.00 a shot variety.

Danbury has Illegals who have opened up their own business's. They can significantly underbid the rest of us because they pay no insurance, taxes, Medicare, unemployment etc. They are not sources of cheap labor for anyone who is obeying the law, however they have created a considerable rich underground and illegal economy which is a parasite on the legitimate local economy. They are using all of the infrastructure free and sending much of their proceeds out of country, they are not even putting it back into Danbury. The government's failure to stop this is the only reason that it persists. It is not good for any native. I can see no reason why our leaders seem to believe that it is fine, other than that they believe that communities such as Danbury are disposable.

32 posted on 05/07/2005 11:55:41 AM PDT by antonia ("Democracy is the worst type of government, excepting all others." ~ Churchill)
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To: two134711
the people of this community should ask themselves if they too had a hand in this influx

Give me a break. Danbury is just over the CT border from Westchester/Putnam counties, and this article exactly describes the situation in virtually every town here. These are normal American villages just overrun with illegals. INS, or ICE, or whatever it's called these days, does squat. The townspeople are sick of it, but the local governments' hands are completely tied. In our town, there's a "Hispanic Coalition" - local version of ACLU - that springs to alert when cops try to enforce the law. In fact, there IS no more loitering law in our town, thanks to the Coalition. Before you blame ordinary Americans, try investigating just how completely check-mated ordinary Americans are on stopping "this influx."

33 posted on 05/07/2005 11:57:23 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: antonia

15,000 ILLEGALS in one town? Who's hiring them and why aren't they being prosecuted?


34 posted on 05/07/2005 12:06:02 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: ikka
Their water bill must be horrendous. Seems to me flop houses could be discovered merely by checking ultrahigh water usage in residences. Same way marijuana grow operations are outed by electrical usage.

Nam Vet

35 posted on 05/07/2005 12:07:16 PM PDT by Nam Vet (MSM reporters think the MOIST dream they had the night before is a "reliable source".)
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To: bahblahbah
Republicans would lose both houses of congress if the Democrats really pushed this issue.

What are the Democrats proposing?

36 posted on 05/07/2005 12:08:36 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
I dunno. If I were a democrat I would start up a fake anti-illegal 3rd party and let it fracture the republicans.
37 posted on 05/07/2005 12:09:35 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: redheadtoo

Ye-es, Danbury is basically a blue collar town that once produced a goodly percentage of the nations' hats. The fortunes of the city declined along with the number of derby wearers and today Danbury is a working-class enclave surrounded by some of the priciest(and fastest developing)real estate anywhere. McMansions are popping up in western Connecticut...well, like McMansions in western Connecticut, and the wealthy liberals who inhabit them hire bargeloads of illegals to maintain their property and look after little Megan and Evan and Rachel while Mummy and Dah-dy are out voting for Democrats. Believe me, not many immigrants work in Danbury itself, and there are no large meat processors or other labor-intensive industries in the area. Construction is a huge draw, and if an immigration agent walked onto a building site in Ct., the place would look like a ghost town in a split second. Connecticut has become a massive yupscale bedroom community/Olde New England shopping mall, and such places always need lots of illegals,or so it seems.


38 posted on 05/07/2005 12:14:54 PM PDT by infidel dog (nearer my God to thee....)
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To: bahblahbah

People aren't going to switch until someone comes up with a plan.


39 posted on 05/07/2005 12:17:02 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: lonevoice

Look what just happened in Great Britain. Many seats were picked up by very conservative leaders in the latest election, because of their position on illegal immigration. I read and heard that one of the main issues driving the election this year was illegal immigration. The British people sent a very clear message to their elected officials - fix the problem. We have to do the same through elected officials who are willing to actually do something about the problem here in the US.


40 posted on 05/07/2005 12:24:43 PM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: AppyPappy

Construction firms are the biggest contributer to the problem.

Also thought about going to where the Mexicans congregate to pick-up construction work with about 5 or 6 of my friends and just congregate with them. That should be fun :-)

Or even going to construction sites and taking pictures of the job site, formen, workers. Not to prove anything, just to be obnoxious.

Heck, even call into ICE after passing by your favorite construction site and seeing the same two dozen workers who don't speak English there day after day, week after week. Report that the company is hiring illegals.

Finally, I've thought about going to Mexican run stores and snapping pics of the license plates of the cars sitting out front.

The trick is not to do anything illegal, just be a huge pain in the rear.


41 posted on 05/07/2005 12:54:56 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: redheadtoo
As I said in another post, I live not far from Farmingville, NY another middle-class town that has also gained notoriety for this problem. Although many illegals live in Farmingville, they work all over the county for rich and working class alike.

There are several farms around here, and they hire immigrant labor. Strangely, just down the road is the local Cornell University Cooperative Farm which sponsors 4-H clubs, numerous children's programs and summer camp, and some of the workers are inmates from the minimum security prison. I wonder why instead of using cheap illegal labor on farms we just don't use non-violent minimum security convicts? It's certainly not cruel and unusual punishment.

Surprisingly, the new County head, a Democrat, Steve Levy has been working hard to bring this problem to national attention and is promoting laws that will allow police officers who've arrested known illegal immigrants to detain them until INS deports them (currently they are not required to do so). Unlike his Republican predecessors, he is taking action. He may be posturing to make Hillary look good in the upcoming election, but it's still a start.

42 posted on 05/07/2005 1:12:19 PM PDT by two134711 (If you're too open minded, your brains will fall out.)
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To: M. Thatcher

The wealthy folks of Westchester DON'T GIVE A SH-T ABOUT IMMIGRATION. Its basically a more urbanized version of Manhattan. Do you REALLY expect the folks in Scarsdale, Chappaqua, etc. to leave their liberalism behind to join together with the lunch pailers from places like Yonkers in some "anti-illegal" coalition?


43 posted on 05/07/2005 1:17:03 PM PDT by Clemenza (I am NOT A NUMBER, I am a FREE MAN!!!)
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To: M. Thatcher

I'm not blaming the towns people for the problem, but in many places citizens don't help themselves by continuing to to vote for pols who renege their promises. I'm simply stating that even though it's the government who aids and abets their entry and stay, we are also enabling them by hiring them for our menial jobs or doing business with companies that hire them.


44 posted on 05/07/2005 1:22:18 PM PDT by two134711 (If you're too open minded, your brains will fall out.)
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To: bahblahbah

"Republicans would lose both houses of congress if the Democrats really pushed this issue."

Each democrat and Republican will take a stand, based on local circumstances.

At the federal level, Hillary, with a get tough stand, WILL beat any Republican that runs on Bush's record.

Now I'm not saying she will be able to sell her brand of "get tough" and I'm not saying the Republican candidate will adopt Bush's record.

But the time seems to be clearly NOW that America demands changes.

Connecticut wants the Governor to enable deputizations, for what the feds won't do.

Arnold is moving for same, in California.

But we can pass and have laws at all levels, to no avail, unless resources (money and manpower) are devoted to enforcement.

Is Bush's latest solution to ADD another 50 immigration agents? 150, 550, 1,050?

When we need 25,000 or 50,000 or 200,000 added?

Bush wouldn't dare enflame his donor base of business interests, would he?

We currently have a no fault system. The employers NEVER go to jail, or pay huge fines.

The immigrants NEVER are punished enough, to convince others to not try.


45 posted on 05/07/2005 3:25:20 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

Yeah. The liberal voters are the ones who should be the most upset because its their social programs which will crash.


46 posted on 05/07/2005 3:34:42 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: Clemenza
The wealthy folks of Westchester DON'T GIVE A SH-T ABOUT IMMIGRATION. Its basically a more urbanized version of Manhattan. Do you REALLY expect the folks in Scarsdale, Chappaqua, etc. to leave their liberalism behind to join together with the lunch pailers from places like Yonkers in some "anti-illegal" coalition?

Actually, they do.

I live in Mount Kisco, and there are dozens of working class towns like mine in Westchester - we do not all fit your caricature of rich snobs. (And what on earth could be "more urbanized" than Manhattan??) The illegal immigrant population strains social services to the breaking point and tremendously increases crime. Virtually everyone here is fed up - but stymied, since everything the law-abiding citizens have tried has been thwarted by the illegals' legal victories, ironic enough.

47 posted on 05/07/2005 5:09:22 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: two134711
I'm not blaming the towns people for the problem

Oh, really? Read your post 5 again:

I think the people of this community should ask themselves if they too had a hand in this influx. If so many illegals are in this town, they have to ask themselves, why? The citizens are the ones hiring them. The illegals are their maids, child care providers, landscapers and gardeners and drivers. They fix and build their homes. Go to the posh Hamptons in NY and when you see who rides the buses in and out town, you know that it's not just fast-food chains, Mega-Stores and construction workers hiring them. Even obscenely wealthy people want to save a few bucks.

48 posted on 05/07/2005 5:12:51 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: bayourod
This is just another bottom feeding local politician whining for more federal money

You obviously didn't read the article very closely. That line you quoted was from the author of the article, not the mayor. From the article: "The mayor says he wants state police officers to be deputized as federal immigration officers — giving them access to a federal database and helping them track illegal immigrants."

And:"Boughton has set up a task force to inspect neighborhoods that have received a lot of complaints about buildings housing illegal immigrants. In one home, the task force found 30 cots in the basement, each one being rented for $5 a night."

Hardly a politician who's just waiting for someone else to give him money.

49 posted on 05/07/2005 5:17:45 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: antonia
My company has a foundry in Kansas City Missouri called Stahl which employs approximately 1000 employees. 2 weeks ago the INS announced they were going into the plant to check the documentation of all aliens working there. The next day 106 workers never showed up for work.

The plant now has approximately 200 job openings. One of our guys was sent down there to do the hiring and as of the day before yesterday, he said that of the 40 people he has hired so far, 20 have quit.

If there are any FReepers in that area looking for work, let me know and I can certainly guarantee you an interview........

50 posted on 05/07/2005 5:24:29 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (After 32 years of dealing with stupid people I still haven't earned the right to just shoot them.)
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