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To: Richard-SIA

Sorry, I do not buy it.


I'm disappointed that you don't see the obvious bad idea in there.


32 posted on 05/07/2005 3:27:24 PM PDT by Darksheare (There is a flaw in my surreality, it's totally unrealistic.)
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To: Darksheare

I have worked for several years to get a bill similar to this one introduced, my only disappointment is that it does not provide an "amnesty" for everyone, but is limited to veterans only.

I have worked with and encouraged congressman Gibbons to introduce this bill.
I realize that the issues it addresses are arcane to most Americans, but that is no reason to not support it.

Flaws in language can be corrected, if you are expert enough to do so please post the improved language and I will send sit to the congressman.


39 posted on 05/07/2005 3:44:53 PM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Darksheare

Unbelievble.
The lack of knowledge on this issue is stunning...

This bill is a GOOD THING.
This bill is a GOOD THING.
This bill is a GOOD THING.

I will be forced to explain things in detail, just so maybe a few of you will understand. I am going to shear a lot of specifics to make it easier for the laypeople to understand.

First off, Fully Automatic weapons have been federally registered since 1934. This will likely never change.
Each transfer of these weapons requires fingerprints, photographs, signatures from authority figures (usually) and a one time $200 tax.

In 1968, a general 30 day amnesty was declared to allow people who were in posession of unregistered automatic weapons to register them legally. Many WWII, Korea, and Vietnam vets registered their bring-back machineguns to be in accordance with the law.
It is worth mentioning that up to this point, your average police department viewed a WWII veteran with a bring-back Sten gun much in the same way they view jaywalking.

In 1986, as a part of the "Firearms Owners Protection Act" (oddly enough), a moratorium was declared on the registry of new machineguns for civilian sale. The existing ones could be transfered, in full accordance with all federal regulations.

So, those are the dates you need to know for the pop quiz on this issue.
1934, 1968, and 1986.

Here are a few other pertinent details.

Due to the moratorium on registry of new machineguns in 86, the supply of available machineguns was fixed at a certain number. Over the years, as demand increased and people actually learned that it was legal to own a machinegun (albeit with much more paperwork than you or I fill out to purchase a pistol or an AR15) the demand skyrocketed.
Fixed supply + High Demand = Stratospheric prices.

That WWII era BAR that grandpa snuck back is worth upwards of $30,000 as a lawfully registered weapon.
It's worth nothing unregistered.

That Korean Era M3 Grease Gun that uncle has up in his closet might be worth $20,000 as a transferrable, collectable registered machinegun- it's worth nothing unregistered.

As WWII vets make their departure from this world, a number of these weapons are coming to light from attics, closets and basements. The realitives are in posession of an immensely historical and tremeandously valuable object, but they are unable to register it due to the way the law is written.

This law allows these people to register these firearms in accordance with the laws that already govern them.

No, it doesn't mean that you have to go and register your deer rifle.
No, it doesn't mean that "all of a sudden" there is some new registry and we are heading headfirst down the slippery slope...

On the other side of the spectrum- to those against gun ownership, no, this won't affect "crime".
These people already posess these firearms and are doing nothing wrong with them. This bill simply allows them to comply with the law and retain an important family heirloom.

I apologize for getting windy, but I hope I cleared some of this up.

THIS BILL IS A GOOD THING!
PLEASE WRITE YOUR SENATORS ABOUT THIS!
IT TAKES ONE MINUTE TO MAKE A PHONE CALL.
DON'T BE AFRAID. TELL THEM THAT YOU SUPPORT THIS!
THIS BILL IS GOOD FOR US ALL!

Thanks for your time


47 posted on 05/07/2005 9:45:40 PM PDT by NFA
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To: Darksheare
I'm disappointed that you don't see the obvious bad idea in there.

I'm disappointed that you don't understand what the current laws are. Bad as the gun grabbers who think 20,000 laws (actually that's an old number, more now) indicate that guns are less regulated than teddy bears.

To repeat, this is not a new law, but rather an improvement and clarification of existing law, albeit one that is completely and totally unconstitutional.

50 posted on 05/07/2005 10:02:21 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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