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To: King Prout

No.
BAD idea, as it starts a gun registry of any firearms that veterans may have brought home from war.
That way, tehy can 'oops' teh amnesty and confiscate the EEEee-vil 'assault weapons', regardless of them being old WWII vintage 7 or 8 shot bangers.


4 posted on 05/07/2005 12:53:16 PM PDT by Darksheare (There is a flaw in my surreality, it's totally unrealistic.)
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To: Darksheare

I thought the RKBA supporting denizens of this board would be much more familiar with the VHFA, the sorry state of ATFE's existing registration records (NFRTR), and the plight of our veterans in regards to their War Trophy firearms.

To elucidate.

This is an EXCELLENT bill, in fact it's passage may be critical to preserving our RKBA and reforming ATFE abuses of law abiding citizens in the long run.

The ONLY guns to be registered under this bill are real MACHINE GUNS that our veterans who have served overseas brought back as war trophies.
It has no effect on standard Title 1 guns or politically defined "assault weapons".

Many veterans think their trophies are already registered, but ATFE has been very inconsistent on recognizing the War Trophy papers as legal NFA registration documents.
This legislation would allow for re-registration, and registration of previously unregistered trophies, removing any doubt as to the veterans (or heirs) legal ownership of very valuable personal property.

As a dealer in full-auto arms I frequently get request for appraisals of such guns.
It is sickening to have to tell a seriously ill veteran that without proof that his trophy is registered with ATFE I cannot so much as touch it, much less appraise or broker it for him.
These guys risked everything to defend America, now most of them are elderly and ill, yet ATFE continues to seek them out for the purpose of taking their valuable property from them for destruction, and possible prosecution of the veteran.

Perhaps the back round on this issue is too complex for full discussion here.
I suggest visiting the NFAOA site and perusing the many post there for more information.

Bottom line, this is an EXCELLENT bill that will be a great service to our veterans and their heirs, while also making badly needed corrections to the records of ATFE. It would also allow the veterans to 'cash in' on their valuable war trophies, they could buy medical treatment, pay for their kids college tuition, buy a new car, etc, etc.
So it would even help our economy, as collectors would put some of their hoarded cash back into circulation.


6 posted on 05/07/2005 1:24:48 PM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Darksheare

Yep, Bad Idea the way I read it. Looks like anyone owning any firearm for which a federal purchase record cannot be located is in possession of an illegal firearm. Veterans (+heirs)appear to be the only ones who can legally "register" firearms acquired outside the US (or for which proof of purchase within the US cannot be produced, as in most private sales) and only if they do so in the 90 day amnesty period. This puppy smells so fishy it should be DOA and clearly impinges on 2A which contains no mention of where firearms must be acquired before being kept and borne. Neither does it limit itself to the "machine-gun" denominations which are subject to transfer tax and registration.


8 posted on 05/07/2005 1:41:47 PM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: Darksheare

It does not "Start" any gun registry!

It allows for corrections to the badly flawed existing NFRTR registry.


23 posted on 05/07/2005 3:02:22 PM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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