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Dismay at US Koran 'desecration'
BBC ^ | 8 May 2005 | BBC News - World Edition

Posted on 05/08/2005 4:42:36 AM PDT by Cornpone

Pakistani officials say they are "deeply dismayed" over reports that the Koran was desecrated at the US detention facility in Guantanamo Bay. The latest edition of the American Newsweek magazine said such tactics were used to rattle suspects.

It says that US personnel on one occasion flushed a copy of Islam's most holy book "down the toilet".

Pakistan, a conservative Muslim nation, is also a key US ally in its war against terrorism.

'Highly objectionable'

Pakistani foreign office spokesman, Jalil Abbas Jilani, told the AFP news agency Pakistan was also concerned about "the highly objectionable and regrettable treatment meted out to the detainees at the Guantanamo Bay detention centre".

Mr Jilani said the reported act of sacrilege had shocked people of every faith around the world.

"The government of Pakistan condemns the incident and demands that an inquiry should be conducted to bring to justice the perpetrators of this shameful act," he said.

Insulting the Koran and Islam's Prophet Mohammed is regarded as blasphemy and punishable by death in Pakistan.

In an interview last week with the BBC's Haroon Rashid, Abdul Rahim Muslim Dost, an Afghan prisoner recently released from the Cuban detention centre, said a number of Arab prisoners had still not spoken to their investigators after three years to protest at the desecration of the Koran by guards.

Mr Dost also said inmates' beards were shaved and the prisoners were shouted at during interrogations.

The US is holding about 520 inmates at Guantanamo Bay, many of them al-Qaeda and Taleban suspects captured in Pakistan and Afghanistan following the 11 September 2001 attacks in the US.


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KEYWORDS: cary; gitmo; islam; koran; korandesecration; newsweek; pakistan; quran
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Boy these Muslims are stupid.
1 posted on 05/08/2005 4:42:37 AM PDT by Cornpone
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To: Cornpone

I would have flushed it one page at a time....after using the pages thoroughly.


2 posted on 05/08/2005 4:45:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I don't suffer from stress. I am a carrier!)
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To: Cornpone

It must be a pretty thick book...I doubt it was flushed down a toilet, unless it was one of those $20,000 DoD toilets.


3 posted on 05/08/2005 4:45:11 AM PDT by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Cornpone
..beards were shaved and the prisoners were shouted at during interrogations.

..and the panties. What about the panties?

4 posted on 05/08/2005 4:46:45 AM PDT by evad (No action to secure borders, No action on judges... NO MONEY!)
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To: Cornpone
It's impossible to "desecrate" the Koran.
5 posted on 05/08/2005 4:46:51 AM PDT by Jaysun (The road to despotism is paved with "fairness")
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To: Cornpone
"flushed a copy of Islam's most holy book "down the toilet"

LOL! Flush twice - It's a long way to Iran!

6 posted on 05/08/2005 4:47:31 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Pharmboy
I doubt it was flushed down a toilet

Heh..it depends on the definitions of "flushed" and "toilet".

I've seen some parta-pots that you could "flush" a box of Korans down with no problem.

7 posted on 05/08/2005 4:49:17 AM PDT by evad (No action to secure borders, No action on judges... NO MONEY!)
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To: evad

porta-pot


8 posted on 05/08/2005 4:50:07 AM PDT by evad (No action to secure borders, No action on judges... NO MONEY!)
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To: Cornpone

Clearly Flushing the Qu'ran down the crapper a FAAAAAAR worse than decapitating a hostage on video.

The horror.... the horror.......

SHeesh.


9 posted on 05/08/2005 4:50:45 AM PDT by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: Cornpone

Hey Jalil Abbas Jilani, shut up or we won't sell you the Harpoons and Sidewinders.

Um, wait nevermind..yes we will.


10 posted on 05/08/2005 4:51:31 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace
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To: Cornpone

Ashes to ashes is said at Christian funerals, I would think hat crap to crap would apply for the Koran.


11 posted on 05/08/2005 4:54:25 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Cornpone
" ... the prisoners were shouted at during interrogations ... "


The inhumanity!

12 posted on 05/08/2005 4:59:07 AM PDT by G.Mason ( Because Free Republic obviously needed another opinionated big mouth ... Proud NRA member)
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To: Cornpone

Whenever I read stuff like this, I can't help but think about how they're not supposed to worship images. And yet the Koran in the context of this article is an image. Disrespectful of the religion,ehhhh maybe, punishable by death? It's an image of the words Allah and they shouldn't be worshipping it.

Again this is an example of the firey words and twists to incite the muslim people.


13 posted on 05/08/2005 4:59:14 AM PDT by EBH
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To: EBH
Whenever I read stuff like this, I can't help but think about how they're not supposed to worship images

Be fair. Putting a crucifix in a glass of urine is the same sort of thing and if we're going to get indignant about the one, we ought to allow Muslims' indignation about the other.

14 posted on 05/08/2005 5:07:33 AM PDT by Grut
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To: EBH
Again this is an example of the firey words and twists to incite the muslim people.

If that is all its takes to stress them out, then I am going to find a copy of the Koran, an outhouse, and then serve myself an extra large serving of pork.

With all of the massacres and murders, you would think that reasonable people of all stripe would find something more worthy of their angst then the toilet practices at Gitmo.
15 posted on 05/08/2005 5:09:39 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Cornpone
Mr Jilani said the reported act of sacrilege had shocked people of every faith around the world.

Doesn't bother me one whit.

16 posted on 05/08/2005 5:11:47 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: Cornpone
Those interrogators are animals! Can you believe those poor prisoners were "shouted at" during interrogation?
17 posted on 05/08/2005 5:13:03 AM PDT by dis.kevin
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To: EBH; Grut

Urban legend intended to incite the ignorant, emotive masses...there are countless unsubstantiated versions of this lie to be found on the internet...and its always the Pakistanis who seem to be getting insulted...TS

BBC: 23 May 2001, Japan investigates Koran desecration

The police in the north-western Japanese prefecture of Toyama say they are investigating a number of anti-Muslim incidents including the alleged theft and destruction of a copy of the Koran -- an incident which has angered Pakistanis living in Japan.

The Muslim holy book was found damaged with pages torn out, outside a Pakistani-owned car dealership, along with derogatory leaflets slandering Muslims.

The Pakistani embassy has appealed for the arrest of anyone involved in the desecration of the Koran, which was allegedly stolen from a meeting-palce in a nearby town where local Muslims gather to pray. Police are examining whether there is a connection with a group of right-wing extremists, who last month drove vehicles rigged with loudspeakers through the streets of Toyama demanding that Pakistanis leave town.


18 posted on 05/08/2005 5:14:08 AM PDT by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: Cornpone

>>Mr Dost also said inmates' beards were shaved and the prisoners were shouted at during interrogations. <<

The horror. The horror. Oh, the humanity.


19 posted on 05/08/2005 5:22:05 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: evad

Yeah...you're right...I hadn't thought of Port-O-San types. You could drive a truck through some of them. LOL!


20 posted on 05/08/2005 5:22:14 AM PDT by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Cornpone

screw conservative muslamies in pakistan


21 posted on 05/08/2005 5:24:37 AM PDT by RIGHT IN LAS VEGAS
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To: Cornpone
Newsweek magazine said ... US personnel on one occasion flushed a copy of Islam's most holy book "down the toilet"

Pakistani officials should be reminded that much of what is said by the U.S. media is incomplete, inaccurate, or completely false.

22 posted on 05/08/2005 5:25:19 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Grut
Grut, I am sorry you felt I wasn't fair in my comment. I did give room for it to have been potentially disrespectful.

Disrespectful of the religion, ehhhh maybe, punishable by death?

But, I am of the belief that all these things are just things. Even the Bible talks about all things will pass away, no humans, no earth, no written word... One should be of the faith that the 'desecration' is to the object, if the belief system is true, the act of descration can't affect the God.

23 posted on 05/08/2005 5:26:46 AM PDT by EBH
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To: Cornpone

Flush the Koran down an Algore low-flow toity? Ha!


24 posted on 05/08/2005 5:27:50 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
'Course if it turns out they don't have low-flow toities at Gitmo, no doubt the libs will be up in arms over that, too.
25 posted on 05/08/2005 5:29:17 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: layman
"Pakistani officials should be reminded that much of what is said by the U.S. media is incomplete, inaccurate, or completely false."

But that assumes these 'officials' are rational...

26 posted on 05/08/2005 5:31:34 AM PDT by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: Cornpone
Insulting the Koran and Islam's Prophet Mohammed is regarded as blasphemy and punishable by death in Pakistan.

The Koran is useful only for toilet paper and I hereby insult it to the fullest extent possible.

And the "prophet" Mo Mo was a child molesting, goat lover whose only spiritual guidence was from his father, the devil. I hereby insult Mohammed, also to the fullest extent possible.

Pakistan can come and get me.

27 posted on 05/08/2005 5:33:08 AM PDT by Skooz (Jesus Christ Set Me Free of Drug Addiction in 1985. Thank You, Lord.)
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To: Cornpone

"Mr Dost also said inmates' beards were shaved and the prisoners were shouted at during interrogations."

WoW! The horror! They were shouted at? tsk,tsk,tsk.


28 posted on 05/08/2005 5:48:56 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Cornpone

I just may have to go out and buy a koran and use it to pick up the dog poop.


29 posted on 05/08/2005 5:50:48 AM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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"I just may have to go out and buy a koran and use it to pick up the dog poop."

Double whammy...dogs are unclean animals in Islam and not to be touched...how sweet the thought...

30 posted on 05/08/2005 5:55:52 AM PDT by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: tkathy
I just may have to go out and buy a koran and use it to pick up the dog poop.

Why waste your money to buy the 'book'? Go to your nearest Islamic center, mosque, ACLU, or any other Islaminatzie whacko organization, tell them you're 'interested', and get the free tissue-paper-book at the enemy's expense!

Oh, and one more thing, take your gun with you, and don't give anyone any address.

31 posted on 05/08/2005 6:25:40 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: evad

Maybe they put panties on the Koran? THAT would be rude.


32 posted on 05/08/2005 6:29:42 AM PDT by bboop
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To: Cornpone
"The government of Pakistan condemns the incident and demands that an inquiry should be conducted to bring to justice the perpetrators of this shameful act," he said.

Award the soldiers who did it an ARCOM (look it up). THAT would be appropriate!

Insulting the Koran and Islam's Prophet Mohammed is regarded as blasphemy and punishable by death in Pakistan.

How can one insult a lying, murdering, thieving, child molesting goat lover and pederast who makes up a cult with a book so obtuse and unintelligible that his own twisted followers can't even make it out? Seems to me that if telling the truth about an uncouth criminal charlatan who had the sexual tastes of a perverted psychopath is blasphemy, then these folks need to find a better cult to sell their souls to.

33 posted on 05/08/2005 6:40:32 AM PDT by Bombardier (Which direction is Mecca? I have to fart.....)
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To: Cornpone
What does a Muslim man say to a Muslim woman with two black eyes?

Nothing.

He already told her twice.

34 posted on 05/08/2005 6:51:54 AM PDT by Nachum
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But, I am of the belief that all these things are just things.

Oh, I agree and I wasn't aiming my criticism at you, but at the many Freepers who wax wroth over insults to our holy things and then mock Moslem indignation over similar insults to theirs. Whether things are 'holy' or just things, that much blindness to the other guy's viewpoint is a block to the eventual reconciliation of Moslems and the West.

35 posted on 05/08/2005 6:59:31 AM PDT by Grut
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To: Cornpone

How about the scum that flew planes into buildings in the name of Islam? Did they defame the Koran?


36 posted on 05/08/2005 7:06:12 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: Cornpone
Boy these Muslims are stupid.

They will believe any lie that leads to hatred. But you have to give them a break on this one. It is not as obvious to them that a book is too big to flush down a toilet, as most of them have never seen a toilet.

It's a 7th century thingie...

37 posted on 05/08/2005 7:32:25 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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"Putting a crucifix in a glass of urine is the same sort of thing and if we're going to get indignant about the one, we ought to allow Muslims' indignation about the other."

On the contrary. Since the MSM ridiculed us for expressing outrage about "PC", Gitmo mooselimbs can eat sh!t, or the Koran, whichever is served first.

If we should "Be fair.", show us where the BBC reported that "PC" had officials "deeply dismayed", "highly objectionable", "[Vatican] is a key US ally in its war against terrorism", "act of sacrilege had shocked people of every faith around the world", "act is regarded as blasphemy" -- and all within the same article.

38 posted on 05/08/2005 8:09:23 AM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: Grut

Furthermore, "PC" was partially funded by a $15,000 NEA grant. If our tax dollars are going to be used in such a way, then I fully support $15,000 to be used in the production of award medals for Gitmo interrogators who came up with the idea.


39 posted on 05/08/2005 8:26:27 AM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: Gunrunner2

"Mr Dost also said inmates' beards were shaved and the prisoners were shouted at during interrogations. "

Ohhh, the poor f*king dearies.


40 posted on 05/08/2005 8:48:56 AM PDT by Levante
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To: Bombardier

I'm thinking an MSM... ARCOM would be for the beard shaving.


41 posted on 05/08/2005 10:59:12 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: gogogodzilla

Good point. Also, the korans should be stocked as TP by the QM....just so there's no doubt.


42 posted on 05/08/2005 11:01:26 AM PDT by Bombardier (Ready to suit up for one more mission.....)
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To: Tuffymae; All
Looks like someone is trying to get zotted. Whatsamatter? Don't like it when the dhimmis speak the truth about the pedophile phony prophet?

Take your threats back to DU.

45 posted on 05/11/2005 9:31:47 AM PDT by Bombardier (Islam is the cancer, destroying it is the cure.)
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To: Pharmboy

Bingo! Impossible to flush a book down a toilet.


46 posted on 05/11/2005 8:49:40 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: justagirl80

so long troll


48 posted on 05/12/2005 5:35:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Anyone who thinks we believe Hillary on any issue is truly a moron.)
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To: justagirl80

Ooohhhh, this is going to get good.


50 posted on 05/12/2005 5:38:10 AM PDT by BTHOtu
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