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SPECIAL REPORT: INSIDE AN ILLEGAL ALIEN RALLY
Michelle Malkin ^ | May 07, 2005 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 05/08/2005 8:26:22 AM PDT by MisterRepublican

On Saturday afternoon, I drove to Rockville, Md., for a large "gathering to condemn the REAL ID Act." (The act will tighten driver's license standards to prevent illegal aliens from obtaining the IDs, close asylum loopholes, and provide funding to fix a huge gap in a border fence between California and Mexico.) Casa de Maryland, a government-funded open-borders group, organized the protest on the public school athletic field at Richard Montgomery High School.

You can see the rally photos I took at my new Flickr site. Here's a sample: www.flickr.com

Several hundred "documented" and "undocumented" workers attended, demanding driver's licenses and blanket amnesty. Maryland is one of ten states that don't require applicants to prove they are citizens or legal residents. Nevertheless, militant CASA leader Gustavo Torres complained: "The MVA [Motor Vehicle Administration] has absolutely no right to ask for people's Social Security number or immigration status to get a driver's license." The illegal alien advocates led protesters in a chant demanding that the "MVA Obey The Law!"

No kidding.

A contingent of Montgomery County police officers were dispatched to the scene--not to help with immigration enforcement, but to protect the protesters, help direct traffic, and manage the parking lot for illegal aliens who (ahem!) drove to the event. Our tax dollars at work.

With Casa de Maryland organizers shouting "No license, no justice! No justice, no peace!" in the background (the only time I could understand them as they exhorted the crowd), I interviewed Montgomery County, Md., police lieutenant J.R. Hack (yeah, that's his real name). Lt. Hack amiably told me the protest was "a good thing." When I asked him why, he said "everyone should have a voice."

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1 posted on 05/08/2005 8:26:22 AM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: MisterRepublican

The illegal alien advocates led protesters in a chant demanding that the "MVA Obey The Law!"

Law breakers chanting that the government "Obey The Law!. Only the left can understand such "reasoning".


2 posted on 05/08/2005 8:30:36 AM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: MisterRepublican
militant CASA leader Gustavo Torres complained: "The MVA [Motor Vehicle Administration] has absolutely no right to ask for people's Social Security number or immigration status to get a driver's license." The illegal alien advocates led protesters in a chant demanding that the "MVA Obey The Law!"

I wonder how far this POS would get if he tried that in Mexico City!

3 posted on 05/08/2005 8:30:38 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: MisterRepublican

Our party better get serious about illegal immigration, or Hillary is going to do it for us.


4 posted on 05/08/2005 8:31:30 AM PDT by nj26
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To: MisterRepublican
Has anyone figured out how to access the photos at:

You can see the rally photos I took at my new Flickr site. Here's a sample: www.flickr.com ?

5 posted on 05/08/2005 8:39:24 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: MisterRepublican
Those who have gotten to this point and haven't read the entire article - you are really missing a lot. I encourage you to go back and read the entire thing.

But while doing so, suck on an ice cube so your blood doesn't boil.

6 posted on 05/08/2005 8:43:16 AM PDT by Gritty ("A nation that cannot control its borders also cannot control its destiny"-Congressman Billybob)
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To: nj26

Yes, Hillary may succeed in duping people into believing she is against illegal immigration. But it was her co-president who made it easier for them to get here and vote Democrat. And if she would get in power (God forbid) she would do her utmost to undermine whatever efforts we have made to thwart the invasion.

President Bush's ridiculous stance on this issue, undermines his credibility on issues of national security and the war on terrorism. I hope that it doesn't take an election upset to make Republicans sit up and take notice of how important this issue is to many Americans.


7 posted on 05/08/2005 8:46:47 AM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: MisterRepublican
These "police" do not represent the majority of American citizens and are actually facilitating illegal activities. This is the type of behavior whereby the citizenry loses respect for the government and starts such initiatives as the Minuteman Project. There will be more such activity, much more, as long as the GOP continues to so obviously fail to enforce existing laws.

As another poser has already pointed out, Hillary will move into the void and promote immigration enforcement. Bush and the rest of the pubbies are endanger of losing significant support in 06 and the WH in 08 if they don't wake up. Yes, I know Hillary is lying, but she will peel off a significant percentage of those who voted for Bush in 2004.

8 posted on 05/08/2005 8:46:55 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Truth29

Oops "poser" = "poster"


9 posted on 05/08/2005 8:48:34 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Publius6961

Go to michellemalkin.com and click on the link she provides or click on this link:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/michellemalkin/


10 posted on 05/08/2005 8:49:53 AM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: MisterRepublican
!el no licenso .... !el no justico .... !el no frijoles

(gringos, muy mucho food estampos, por favor)

_________________________________

press 2 for English

11 posted on 05/08/2005 9:02:42 AM PDT by Tuba Guy (' Only YOU Can Prevent Hillary! ')
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To: Publius6961
Wow. Read this sign from the protest.
12 posted on 05/08/2005 9:11:16 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: MisterRepublican

The exchange with the police Lt. is rather interesting. Especially when Michael Graham showed up.


13 posted on 05/08/2005 9:20:13 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (To hell with Mexico, its policies, and its leaders)
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To: MisterRepublican
Thank you!

That was educational

14 posted on 05/08/2005 9:21:54 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


15 posted on 05/08/2005 9:23:12 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: MisterRepublican

A little off topic, but, what do you do when the police, like Lt. Hack, start rounding up personal firearms from legal owners. Do you hide them?, refuse to surrender your weapons and get arrested?
Ask a policeman you know. He will most likely say he will enforce such an unconsitutional order.
That's called a police state folks.


16 posted on 05/08/2005 9:31:31 AM PDT by ampat
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To: nj26
I would seriously consider voting for Hillary if she firmly come out against illegal immigration.
17 posted on 05/08/2005 9:31:40 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: nj26
Our party better get serious about illegal immigration, or Hillary is going to do it for us......

You're spot on with this remark.And she'll do it by energizing the African American voters by reminding them who suffers when ilegals take these jobs. Hillary is a smart rutheless politician with no regard for anything but her own advancement( DUH). She'll ride illegals to a 350 electoral vote victory in states the Dems haven't won since LBJ.

18 posted on 05/08/2005 9:32:47 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (Peace, Love, Brotherhood, and Firepower. And the greatest of these is Firepower!)
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To: MisterRepublican
Why are drivers licenses IMPORTANT.?..
Massive voter fraud in 2006 and 2008...
In most places a drivers license and address is all you need.. to get a voter ID.. Then VOTER fraud isn't fraud at all.. Wonder how many votes in 2004 were counted this way..

Lets see 10 to 20 million illegals probably many more (their illegal you see) counting them ain't easy.. and is probably wrong.. Lets see, 20 million illegals say 1/2 of them get legit.. to vote.. Bush didn't win by 10 million votes..

Voila! Madaam PRESIDENTE'... The Coup D'Etat follows soon after that.. unless all those rich fat republicans get off their couches and waddle into a revolution... but that won't happen will it.. Would screw up the football season, might even cancel Oprah and Dr. Phil..
Nah! ain't happenin..

Hmmmm, Wonder what enrolling in Spanish lessons costs at my local City College these days.. Spanglish is too hard to pick up.. unless you know Spanish first..

19 posted on 05/08/2005 9:40:10 AM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: MisterRepublican; All
Crosslinked- click the bottom link for more annoying photographs:

  Thunder on the Border-- (Minuteman Project)
 

Illegal alien rally

The real agenda behind opposition to the REAL ID Act.

 

Illegal alien chant sheet

 

--more pictures here:   flickr.com

20 posted on 05/08/2005 9:41:22 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: nj26

No, shewon't DO it; she'll campaign on it.


21 posted on 05/08/2005 10:10:48 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...you da man!!)
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To: ampat
That's called a police state folks

Yup. A police state that represents the interests of foreign nationals, not the citizenry it supposedly derives its legitimacy from.

22 posted on 05/08/2005 10:17:07 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: MisterRepublican

"No license, no peace."

Is that a threat. What are they gonna do, riot in the streets? Good, then maybe Marylanders will see what all this pandering to illegals will get them.

This Lt. hack sounds like a real wuss too. if he can't enforce the laws then he should turn his badge in.


23 posted on 05/08/2005 10:23:01 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: FreedomSurge
I would seriously consider voting for Hillary if she firmly come out against illegal immigration.

Precisely the kind of (uninformed)voter she is trying to reach. You might want to better educate yourself on the specifics of her proposals. She isn't really opposed to what you think she is. She (double)speaks with a very forked tongue on the subject of illegal aliens.

24 posted on 05/08/2005 10:24:52 AM PDT by Ron H.
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To: MisterRepublican

Just a friendly FReeper Clarification: we know the leftie/bolshevik MO of getting the laws and LEOs tied in pretzel knots by any means ,...it is their old "tried and true" playbook , deception and changing things by small incremental steps UNTIL ,"OMG how did things get like this??" , the Judiciary is so very VERY important


25 posted on 05/08/2005 10:27:17 AM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: MisterRepublican; 1 Olgoat; 103198; 10Ring; 11Bush; 1stbn27; 2SterlingConservatives; 2yearlurker; ..
Michelle Malkin's blog report on this "event" should be read in its entirety. Here's just one small part...

With Casa de Maryland organizers shouting "No license, no justice! No justice, no peace!" in the background (the only time I could understand them as they exhorted the crowd), I interviewed Montgomery County, Md., police lieutenant J.R. Hack (yeah, that's his real name). Lt. Hack amiably told me the protest was "a good thing." When I asked him why, he said "everyone should have a voice."

Asked if the Department of Homeland Security had been notified of the illegal alien rally, Lt. Hack emphatically said no. "We're here to help them."

Even if they're here illegally? I asked. "We don't want to initimidate anyone," said Lt. Hack.

Shouldn't you report people to DHS if you know they are here illegally? I asked. "That's not my responsibility," he said.

26 posted on 05/08/2005 10:27:19 AM PDT by tgslTakoma
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Completely unnecessary, and very distracting from the important thread topic, but nonetheless mandatory Michelle Malking picture posting:



I now return you to this important thread.
27 posted on 05/08/2005 10:37:13 AM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: MisterRepublican
Rule 1902.7(b) of the FReeper code (xref the Coulter Rule, the Dodd Rule [love that one], et. al., et. seq., et. em. all?)!


28 posted on 05/08/2005 10:41:00 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (First you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women (HJ Simpson))
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To: tgslTakoma

ping again on this thread , What a Distracting Day , LOL!! for dads,that is,....


29 posted on 05/08/2005 10:43:38 AM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: Ron H.
"Precisely the kind of (uninformed)voter she is trying to reach. You might want to better educate yourself on the specifics of her proposals. She isn't really opposed to what you think she is. She (double)speaks with a very forked tongue on the subject of illegal aliens."

I understand her ability to double talk. If she were, and I understand this to be a long-shot, to unequivocally and specifically come out against illegal immigration I would seriously consider voting for her. I view illegal immigration to be that important of an issue.

30 posted on 05/08/2005 10:51:06 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: F15Eagle

"Malkin". Dang typos!


31 posted on 05/08/2005 10:52:00 AM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: nj26
Our party better get serious about illegal immigration, or Hillary is going to do it for us.

Both the RINOs and the RATs are in cahoots when it comes to illegals.

32 posted on 05/08/2005 10:54:34 AM PDT by 12 Gauge Mossberg (I Approved This Posting - Paid For By Mossberg, Inc.)
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To: hosepipe

You hit the nail on the head. The Dems got the Motor Voter act passed as
a back door way to allow illegals to vote. Cutting them off from getting
drivers licences will help this problem some. The main problem though is
that many localities have very loose (or no) documentation standards. In
many cases, one just has to claim to be a citizen to be allowed to vote.
Personally, I'd get real suspicious if the person registering spoke litte or
no English. But one is not allowed to use common sense in our PC culture.


33 posted on 05/08/2005 11:12:59 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: backhoe
Yes but the Einsteins give us security, not dead beats.
34 posted on 05/08/2005 11:17:11 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: gitmo

Round them up, DNA tag them, deport them, and then SEAL THE BORDERS!!!


35 posted on 05/08/2005 11:27:04 AM PDT by Bombardier (Ready to suit up for one more mission.....)
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To: tgslTakoma

Lt. Hack will go far in law enforcement. He’s very PC.


36 posted on 05/08/2005 11:41:59 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Tuba Guy

Heck you don't need a drivers license to run a weed wacker.


37 posted on 05/08/2005 12:43:13 PM PDT by eternity (From here to...)
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To: MisterRepublican
a government-funded open-borders group

Stop the insanity!

38 posted on 05/08/2005 1:02:05 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Truth29

"These "police" do not represent the majority of American citizens and are actually facilitating illegal activities."

No, but they DO represent Montgomery County, Maryland (c. 2005)PERFECTLY. Remember Chief Moose? He ran that department for years. He let the DC area vipers continue for weeks because he refused to let the profile show that the shooters might have been black, and not white rednecks. That's Montgomery County ... where Moose is considered a HERO. Enough said.

Montgomery County, Maryland is populated with government workers, glib libs, and upscale pundits. You really wouldn't want to live there.


39 posted on 05/08/2005 1:55:43 PM PDT by EDINVA (i)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


40 posted on 05/08/2005 2:07:43 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: MisterRepublican

I have no problem with giving them amnesty. However, in order to do that the border will be shut down and they will need to:

1. Register as legal citizens
2. Hold a job that pays both social security and income payroll taxes
3. Must file income taxes
4. Be sponsored by a citizen
5. Not have any outstanding arrest warrants in the country of origin

Pretty simple


41 posted on 05/08/2005 3:17:44 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: nj26

Let's settle this once and for all.

The Hildeb!tch and Billybubba Deliverance man are scumbag leftist marxists traitors. The Demoncr@p solution to illegal invasion is to let them all in and naturalize them. The B1tch may talk tough on borders but when she gets the reigns of power, she'll let them in like a flood.

With the GOP we have a sieve. With the DEMons, we have a river.

At least the Repubs are doing soemthing, even if it's not much. If you care about borders, DO NOT let a single DEM win in 06, 08 ,10 ,12, 14, 16, 18, 20 , 22...

DEMs are a hundred million times more invested in an open borders policy. If a good compromise between security and laor can be made, REpublicans will jump on it wiht both barrels. The people with the biggest open borders incentive are the DeMs NOt the 'Pubs.


42 posted on 05/08/2005 4:04:53 PM PDT by Killborn (Playing Russian Roulette with a Loaded Semi-Auto)
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To: MisterRepublican

"Yes, Hillary may succeed in duping people into believing she is against illegal immigration. But it was her co-president who made it easier for them to get here and vote Democrat. And if she would get in power (God forbid) she would do her utmost to undermine whatever efforts we have made to thwart the invasion."

GMTA.

"President Bush's ridiculous stance on this issue, undermines his credibility on issues of national security and the war on terrorism. I hope that it doesn't take an election upset to make Republicans sit up and take notice of how important this issue is to many Americans."

HE hasn't proposed anything concrete yet, like NCLB. That's how he works. HE wants a debate and discussion that would lead to a policy that brings consensus between those secrity and labor demands.

Personally, I don't care whether the Guest Worker Program or Israel-Palestine option is implemeted. As long as the borders are ecure, I'll be happy.

One thing that is absent in this debate is the new American work (un)ethic. All of us here grew up on the Horatio Alger/American Dream where we get success through hard wrok and dedication. With the perversion of our culture, we end up with spoiled rich boys who expect a six-figure income when they get out of college. These whiny brats will see jobs like fariming, dish washing, etc as beneath them and they want the latinos to take such jobs.
If Americans took any job offered, we wouldn't even be arguring about the invasion.

When the PResident talks about jobs Americans won't take, our first reaction is BS. But this statement is more true than we think. You or me will gladly take almost any job, because we need to succeeed and feed ourseleves (and our families, if you lucky people have one :P). But there is a large contingent of people who will not take jobs "that are meant for undocumented workers."

One key of the GWP is that Americans don't lose employment opportunities. Fine and dandy. If this plan comes along, it is up to us to make sure that every available job slot is taken by Americans. This way, illegals won't be hired. Bring up charges on employers who deliberately employ aliens before hiring a citizen. And tell the stupid louts to get off their lazy asses and get that d@mn job. You want to be a money broker? Go to a McDonalds. Some kid went into space and he got that job flipping burgers.


43 posted on 05/08/2005 4:19:19 PM PDT by Killborn (Playing Russian Roulette with a Loaded Semi-Auto)
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To: FreedomSurge

I would seriously question your sanity if you believe ANYTHING that lying, traitorous, Marxist, POS rugmuncher tells you.


44 posted on 05/08/2005 4:21:53 PM PDT by Killborn (Playing Russian Roulette with a Loaded Semi-Auto)
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To: freedumb2003

Whjat is rule 175.2(x)?


45 posted on 05/08/2005 4:24:38 PM PDT by Killborn (Playing Russian Roulette with a Loaded Semi-Auto)
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To: MisterRepublican
Law breakers chanting that the government "Obey The Law!. Only the left can understand such "reasoning".

Or that the organizing group, Casa de Maryland, is government-funded! Amazing!

46 posted on 05/08/2005 5:06:38 PM PDT by LNewman
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To: tgslTakoma

Yeah Okay... so my question is what does 'No Peace' mean? Are they threatening violence if they dont get licenses? Why do they get away with threatening remarks.


47 posted on 05/08/2005 5:32:26 PM PDT by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: rbg81

here in calif, you don't even need to read or write in english to get a DL, and it does't matter if your here legaly or illegaly.


48 posted on 05/08/2005 5:43:48 PM PDT by markman46
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To: Killborn
Whjat is rule 175.2(x)?

The Helen Thomas 72 Virgins Rule (please don't invoke!)

49 posted on 05/08/2005 6:37:39 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (First you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women (HJ Simpson))
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To: EQAndyBuzz

You left out:

6. Return to Country Of Origin and Request Immigration to the Unites States like all the LAWFUL immigrants do.


50 posted on 05/08/2005 6:39:02 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (First you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women (HJ Simpson))
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