Posted on 05/08/2005 9:35:26 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan
Desperate for revenues, Detroit ponders fast-food tax 5/8/2005, 9:15 a.m. ET
By SARAH KARUSH
The Associated Press
DETROIT (AP) — Would you like fries with that? Either way, the Detroit city treasury would like a bite.
Faced with a $300 million budget hole, and with traditional revenue-raising options largely exhausted, Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick is hoping people won't mind forking over a few extra cents for their Big Macs and Whoppers.
Kilpatrick is preparing to ask Detroit voters to approve a 2 percent fast-food tax — on top of the 6 percent state sales tax already applied to restaurant meals. The mayor says consumers will barely notice the slight increase at the cash register, but critics say the tax would unfairly burden the poor and hamper economic development in the city.
Other cities and states have special taxes on prepared food, and some have tried "snack taxes" on foods such as cookies and chips. In New York, Assemblyman Felix Ortiz has proposed a 1 percent tax on junk food, video games and TV commercials to fund anti-obesity programs. But the Detroit assessment would be the country's first tax specifically targeting fast-food establishments if approved, the National Restaurant Association said.
Opponents of the Detroit idea have been quick to call it a "fat tax" — a penalty on unhealthy foods. Men's Health Magazine dubbed Detroit the nation's fattest city in 2004, though it slid to No. 3 in the 2005 rankings.
However, the tax would apply not only to fat-laden burgers, fries and desserts, but to anything sold at a fast-food establishment, even salads. City officials say the proposal, part of the draft budget Kilpatrick presented to the City Council last month, is more about Detroit's financial health than anything else.
Although the tax would not come close to fixing Detroit's financial problems — officials predict it would bring in $17 million in the next fiscal year — every dollar counts in a city already bracing for mass layoffs and service cuts.
Enacting the tax would likely require a change in state law. That could be a tough sell in the Republican-controlled Legislature, though city officials say they're confident they'll win the battle.
Kilpatrick's next hurdle would be convincing Detroit voters to give the necessary approval.
"Just tell him we're going to go to Bloomfield Hills to McDonald's if he puts a tax on it," said Ebony Ellis, 18, referring to the affluent Detroit suburb, as she and four friends ate at a Golden Arches in Detroit. The high school classmates eat at McDonald's every day after school because their schedule doesn't leave them time for lunch.
Young people and senior citizens are big consumers of fast food and would bear an unfair share of the tax's burden, some critics contend.
"It's really going to fall upon poor people harder," said Robert Wassmer, a professor of public policy and economics at California State University, Sacramento. Not only would the tax be regressive, but a lack of transportation could make it harder for some low-income residents to cross city boundaries to escape the tax, he said.
The restaurant industry says the idea is also unfair to businesses.
"We think it's extremely counterproductive to say to those people who have provided jobs, who have provided growth, `We're going to levy on you a special tax that we don't levy on anyone else,'" said Andy Deloney, public affairs director of the Michigan Restaurant Association.
But Kilpatrick insists an additional 2 percent — or a nickel on a $2.50 Big Mac — would have little effect on the pocketbooks of the average resident or the competitiveness of Detroit eateries.
"It's not really prohibitive," he said. "It doesn't overburden the family."
And the fact is there aren't many other options.
"With Detroit, you're kind of grasping at straws because the tax base is so tapped into," Wassmer said.
The city currently has five major revenue streams: state revenue sharing, an income tax, property taxes, a tax on its three casinos and a utility tax.
Michigan law limits Detroit's ability to raise income and property taxes. Few argue that such increases would help anyway: High taxes are frequently cited as a major reason residents and businesses have fled the city, further depleting the tax base.
In a study by the District of Columbia comparing Washington and the biggest cities in each state, Detroit in 2003 had the 10th-highest tax burden for a family of four with an income of $75,000. The total burden of state and local taxes combined equaled 11 percent, according to the study.
In addition to the fast-food tax, Kilpatrick also plans to ask voters to approve a property transfer tax, a flat $250 to $500 fee that would be split by the buyer and seller.
Other options, such as a municipal sales tax, might damage Detroit's efforts to revitalize itself after decades of population decline and business flight, Kilpatrick said.
The same goes for an overall meals tax not limited to fast food, Deputy Mayor Anthony Adams said. The mayor likes to boast that 22 new restaurants have opened downtown in the last three years. A tax on all restaurants might hamper this fledgling development, while the city's fast-food market is "pretty mature," Adams said.
Just how does one define the fast-food market? Besides the obvious chains like Wendy's and White Castle, officials have mentioned takeout pizza places and Detroit's ubiquitous chili dog restaurants known as Coney Islands.
But what about American Coney Island, a downtown establishment that has table service despite its simple and speedy fare? What about Starbucks or the corner deli? The administration says it is still working on a definition.
And the fact is there aren't many other options.
Yeah there is. Stop running up your company credit card with drinks, lay off your bodyguards and turn in your Navigator....
Who most often eats fast food, and therefore will be most impacted by this tax: Is it:
(1) Rich people?
or
(2) Poor people?
What about an elected official tax. Those that hold elected office must pay an additional 10% for the pain and suffering they cause to the residents.
Next they'll tax "thingy" ...
(At least it will make the CPA's job more interesting.)
Whet benefit (if any at all) did the "empowerment zone Federal multiple-millions grant do for the citizens of Detroit?
Where is this "empowerment zone"?
What did the Archer adninistration do with the money? What did Kwame do with any residual?
Looking around Detroit, there is no "empowerment zone", as advertised.......so WHO siphoned THAT money off?
This would explain the desperate "Discover Detroit" ads we are seeing on TV down here in Ohio right now....
somehow I am not surprised....
And NO perks; No expense account.
Its government that needs to go on a diet more than the taxpayers.
video games and TV commercials to fund anti-obesity programs.
In reality those funds will be diverted to pay for the local pols favorite projects and supporters, like raises for union employees.
Read all about it....5 years after they got the money....the article in #1 reflects the NEXT 5 years
http://www.freep.com/news/locway/dzone17_20000117.htm
Residents see no progress in 5 years
'They're not putting it in the neighborhood'
January 17, 2000
snips:
BY JENNIFER DIXON
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER
Broken glass crunches beneath her feet as Leontine Person takes stock of the east-side working-class Detroit neighborhood where she has lived for 51 years.
Abandoned homes, doors and windows gaping open, sit side by side with tidy bungalows. Household rubbish is heaped at the curb. Alleys are a tangle of weeds that shroud discarded appliances. Even Mrs. Person, as she is known in the neighborhood, doesn't want to venture too far down the alley that runs behind her block on Bewick Street.
"I know for a fact that President Clinton and Vice President Gore gave the money. Somebody's got to be putting it in their pocket because they're not putting it in the neighborhood," she says.
President Bill Clinton designated Detroit and five other urban areas as empowerment zones in December 1994 as part of a 10-year plan to rebuild inner cities by roping off their most distressed areas.
Each zone received federal tax credits to keep and attract business, and $100-million block grants to design and fund economic development, housing, job training and social programs. Three rural empowerment zones and 95 enterprise communities got lesser benefits
Five years later, $84 million in taxpayer money that should be making a difference in lives of the zone's 101,279 people is untapped.
A 6-month analysis by the Free Press found that many of the zone's 80 programs are making slow progress in living up to goals that are supposed to be reached by 2004
On the other hand, there's Brightmoor, Gratiot, and the area by the old City Airport.
In mid-2000, Mayor Dennis Archer reported that Detroit's Empowerment Zone had
enjoyed over $6 billion in new investment or commitments since its
http://www.crcmich.org/EDSurvey/fedzones/ez.html
Thanks for posting. SHEESH.
Theres some good news to this story. Things will get much worse before they get better if ever. Although I feel for the people left behind after all the producers have vacated, maybe someone will learn a lesson.
What's that song go - "You gotta lose your mind in Detroit, Rock City".
Sounds like Detroit is being ruled by third world leaders.
I they want more tax revenues, the smart thing would be to cut tax rates.
I'm thinking of "Felony Firearm Fines" and "Driveby Shooting Surtaxes". Instead of overburdening our prison system her in Michigan, slap'm with the hefty abuser tax and let them go. Should bring in some sizable revenue in no time at all.....
(1) Rich people?
Are there any rich people left in Detroit?
There are actually. Some downtown, the riverfront, and over in the Palmer Woods section.
"Michigan law limits Detroit's ability to raise income and property taxes. Few argue that such increases would help anyway: High taxes are frequently cited as a major reason residents and businesses have fled the city, further depleting the tax base.
Not to mention the crime rates. Shhhh ... don't mention the crime rates.
"In addition to the fast-food tax, Kilpatrick also plans to ask voters to approve a property transfer tax, a flat $250 to $500 fee that would be split by the buyer and seller."
That way they can get the goobers who move in, and the poor souls with sanity who move out.
You get 'em Kwame. You da man! ;)
The city is being run into the ground by a hip-hop mayor who drives around in a tricked out SUV.
executions will continue until moral improves
taxes will increase until revenues rise.
It the municipality confiscated 110% of all property and moneys it still would not be enough.
if wolfgang puck can call a pizza "pizza" by putting a mere three DROPS (literally) of tomato sauce, then I am sure these "fast food" owners can either slooooow down the "fast" (if fast is 2 minutes then food is delivered 2 minutes plus one second) or nutrition, then sprinkle 1 GRAIN of wheat germ on the food and make it "healthy".
Perhaps someone should think about just buying detroit for the "free state" project.
Small is right. There are no movie theatres or department stores in Detroit.
I met someone who fled detroit, he said some unrepeatable descriptions about the current "race baiting leadership" and insider corruption.
I get the impression, they WANT everyone of the "wrong skin color" to leave (ala Mandella's South Africa) so they can just "take" the abandoned properties or buy them at fire sale prices.
I wonder what is left?
WIll it get so bad that Michigan unicorporates the city?
Most of the money went to corrupt city council members, administrators, unions, and others who hide behind the "city official" banner.
it only gets worse since detroit has a shrinking population so it gets LESS federal dollars. Less in school, less from feds.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
Coming soon: surtaxes on Newports and "Forties." $$$!
Ha! If Mayor Kwame really wanted to raise more revenue to throw down the rathole that the city of Detroit has become, he's slap a hefty tax on any bottle of Mickey's Malt carried out as a short dog in a brown bag.
You mean poo-poos? ;-)
Oh bloody hell! How about this TAX? I want to put a tax on all communists, socialists, terrorists, traitors. murderers, rapists, child sex offenders, and anyone else serving life without parole and people on the death penalty
100% of their income. Should eliminate the entire Demonseptic party and take care of our national budget for years and years to come. Hell, might even solve our national deficit! Sounds like a good idea to me!
How in the world would you tax TV commercials?
Mark
Mark
How about a tax on sneakers costing over $100 ?
How about a 2% reduction in spending. I bet even fewer folks would notice that.
Or a 2% tax increase on politicians salaries. That will convert them to Reaganomics in a hurry.
When I went to high school in Detroit (back in the days when it was a French settlement), I got 20 whole minutes to eat my lunch.
Bloomfield Hills is 20 miles away, no way they will be scooting up to Bloomfield to save a nickle or two.
""We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Rodham Clinton June 2004"
Better think twice about super-sizing them fries.
"and you're working for no one but me" TAXMAN, the Beatles
The state is currently looking to put Detroit into receivership. There is a numbnut running for mayor who wants a law passed that would exempt Detroit from any takeovers.
Plow the whole town under ( except for the Institute of arts and stadium) and start over.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
"High taxes are frequently cited as a major reason residents and businesses have fled the city, further depleting the tax base."
From their own mouths and they still want more taxes.
What a joke!
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