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U.S. Spy Pollard Claims Torture in Prison
AP ^ | 5/8/5

Posted on 05/08/2005 9:34:25 PM PDT by SmithL

JERUSALEM, Israel -- Jonathan Pollard, an American imprisoned in the United States for spying for Israel, is seeking to be declared a Prisoner of Zion — a status that would require Israel to do all it can to get him released, his lawyer said Sunday.

Israel, which has pressed the issue of releasing Pollard with the U.S. government, has so far refused to assign him that status, which was originally created for Jewish activists imprisoned in the Soviet Union in the 1970s and 80s.

Pollard's petition alleges he was kept naked for more than a year in solitary confinement in subzero temperatures. It claims his U.S. jailers also soaked him with ice water, forced him to sleep on a bare concrete slab, and lied to him that the Israeli government had arranged his release.

His lawyer, Nitzana Darshan-Leitner, said Pollard has complained about torture to the U.S. Embassy since the outset of his imprisonment nearly 19 years ago, but this is the first time the complaints have been included in a legal document.

The document asks Israel's Supreme Court to force the government to declare Pollard a Prisoner of Zion, she said.

Asked what took Pollard so long to go public with the alleged torture, Darshan-Leitner said he did so after despairing of persuading the Israeli government to declare him a Prisoner of Zion.

Pollard was a civilian intelligence analyst for the Navy when he copied and gave to his Israeli handlers classified documents. He was not paid when his spying began in 1984, but acknowledged that Israel later began paying him a few thousand dollars a month.

Pollard was caught in November 1985 and arrested after unsuccessfully seeking refuge at the Israeli Embassy. His case has strained U.S.-Israeli relations.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: babylon; espionage; fffffrreeeezing; israel; pollard; spy; spying; teethchatteringcold; zion
Boy did he pick up the wrong hymnal.
1 posted on 05/08/2005 9:34:25 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
Dumbass lies. Guess it should be expected from a traitor.
2 posted on 05/08/2005 9:38:10 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (To hell with Mexico, its policies, and its leaders)
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To: SmithL

What? No underwear on the head? What a wimp.


3 posted on 05/08/2005 9:39:27 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: SmithL

Change your religion to Muslim, Pollard, and you'll get heard...


4 posted on 05/08/2005 9:39:44 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (All it takes for evil to triumph is for Republicans to befriend, act like, and give in to, Democrats)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

"Pollard's petition alleges he was kept naked for more than a year in solitary confinement in subzero temperatures."

Numb-ass lies is more like it.


5 posted on 05/08/2005 9:42:39 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Get back into your closets, you pinkos! We're setting the way-back machine for the fabulous fifties!)
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To: SmithL
Pollard's petition alleges he was kept naked for more than a year in solitary confinement in subzero temperatures.

A guy tough enough to survive that could just eat through the walls.

Strange, in his pictures he just looked like a little weasel.
6 posted on 05/08/2005 9:42:50 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (All grey areas are fabrications.)
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To: SmithL

"Pollard was a civilian intelligence analyst for the Navy when he copied and gave to his Israeli handlers classified documents."

It doesn't matter if they call him a "Prisoner of Zion" or "Susan" (like his cellmate); the best way to refer to Pollard is "traitor."


7 posted on 05/08/2005 9:42:56 PM PDT by New Orleans Slim
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To: SmithL
Pollard's petition alleges he was kept naked for more than a year in solitary confinement in subzero temperatures. It claims his U.S. jailers also soaked him with ice water, forced him to sleep on a bare concrete slab, and lied to him that the Israeli government had arranged his release.

It's amazing he's still alive after such alleged torture. Naked in solitary in subzero temperatures for more than a year? Soaked with ice water, sleeping on concrete, and he's still alive? I'm afraid Mr. Pollard is exaggerating a little in order to try and force Israel to demand his release. The only problem from the American point of view is that Pollard is an American traitor, regardless of which country he sold classified documents to.

Pollard knew better, and perhaps his sentence was more harsh than other traitors, but he continues as a gadfly in U.S. - Israeli relations.

8 posted on 05/08/2005 9:45:41 PM PDT by xJones
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To: Captainpaintball

He sure sounds like he already has changed his religion.


9 posted on 05/08/2005 9:46:08 PM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: xJones; Pan_Yan

10 posted on 05/08/2005 9:57:15 PM PDT by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: Texas_Jarhead; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; Smartass


Playing a tired old race card

You're not in NYC Pollard

Pollard's defenders assert the USA should have been giving the secret info to Israel and therefore he cannot be prosecuted

I won't bring up the King David Hotel bombing or the sneak attack on the USS Liberty - anyone not aware of the details can look them up themselves

He should have been shot as a traitor



Send him to Gitmo and let him get some sun




11 posted on 05/08/2005 9:57:33 PM PDT by devolve (My WWII Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WWII.html - more traffic than DU-Koz-LDot)
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To: devolve
The King David Hotel in 1947? And the USS Liberty? Good Lord above! What the h*ll are you babbling about?

Pollard spied for Israel. He gave them classified information. That wasn't his choice to make. I wonder if an Israeli offered us information that was equally as vital, if we would turn it down.

Simply put, he gave them the information, he was caught, he was sentenced. What on G-d's green earth does the King David Hotel have to do with that?

12 posted on 05/08/2005 10:05:44 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: SmithL

What happened? Did we cut off this lardass's supply of taxpayer provided Twinkies? I'll pay for the Twinkies if I get to jam them down his worthless trairtorous throat until he explodes. What a waste of skin this turd is.


13 posted on 05/08/2005 10:07:05 PM PDT by Octar
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To: devolve
I won't bring up the King David Hotel bombing or the sneak attack on the USS Liberty - anyone not aware of the details can look them up themselves

And it's just as well that you won't, because neither event has anything to do with Pollard. Or do they, what do you think?

14 posted on 05/08/2005 10:14:25 PM PDT by xJones
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To: endthematrix

That's good.:)


15 posted on 05/08/2005 10:15:58 PM PDT by xJones
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To: endthematrix

LOL.


16 posted on 05/08/2005 10:26:14 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: SmithL
U.S. Spy Pollard Claims Torture in Prison

So shoot him and end his "torture".

17 posted on 05/08/2005 10:38:39 PM PDT by Penner
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To: SmithL

I think the more important question to be asked regarding this incident..among many others...is why does the US continue to put so much support behind Israel?


18 posted on 05/08/2005 10:42:31 PM PDT by Dr. Marten ((http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com))
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To: Dr. Marten
"is why does the US continue to put so much support behind Israel?"

so that SFB's like you in China can keep track of your money in the US through secure routers developed in Israel, while you likely use a computer whose chip was co-developed in Israel, to allow you to look at those transvestite pictures from Thailand you like so much.

You can pick up your check from Osama whenever you want, at least till your chicomm masters tell him your real interests.
19 posted on 05/08/2005 11:05:10 PM PDT by Yehuda (America: Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE! [" Choke on it, pinkos!"])
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To: SmithL

Pollard is a traitor. Period.


20 posted on 05/08/2005 11:08:15 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("My guvnor don't got the answer")
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Gee, I would have thought the unrelenting, huge steaming load of BS he has been passing would keep him very warm


21 posted on 05/08/2005 11:19:41 PM PDT by commonasdirt
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To: SmithL
The question "IS"...
Is Pollards lawyer a traitor also.?.
22 posted on 05/08/2005 11:38:16 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: Captainpaintball

Free Jonathan Pollard!

Jonathan Pollard is accused of having given Israel information about the Iraqi nuclear reactor and the Iraqi program for attacking Israel with nuclear weapons. Why the U.S. had not shared this info with Israsel is an important question for future historians and theologans to grapple with. It's clear that Jonathan will be exonerated by history. The shocking double cross by prosectors with whom he struck a plea bargan is a travesty of justice.

Israel used the information to preempt the Iraqi nuclear threat to Israel and the West. Perhaps the U.S. would have provided the same information to Israel soon after Jonathan did in any case; one would hope that would have been the case. While the ends do not necessarily justify the means, Jonathan's law breaking was far, far lesser than others', yet his sentence was the harshest - life in prison. He loves the U.S. In contrast, those who were in fact out to harm the U.S. and passed information to the enemies of the U.S. walk free.

Jonathan was accused on passing information to the very strongest ally the U.S. has anywhere in the world - that was true then and remains true.

Actual traitors - people who have tranferred information to the enemies of the U.S. receive a fraction of the sentence that Pollard has received. Jonathan has been singled out and a life sentence is vastly disproportionate and a travesty of justice.

There is no other conclusion to come to but that Pollard's extreme Kafkaesque situation derives from anti-Semitic bias, a pattern for which there are, sadly, precedents in history.

A Christian finding religion in prison is seen as a positive development. Not so for Jonathan Pollard's increased practice of Judaism.

There are other reported instances of prison officials refusing Pollard humane treatment, even small requests, such as not allowing anyone to get him a new pair of frames for his old glasses to replace the broken ones whose metal digs into his face.


23 posted on 05/09/2005 12:25:43 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: SmithL

Too bad his accusations aren't true. The traitor would be dead.


24 posted on 05/09/2005 12:26:43 AM PDT by BinaryBoy
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To: Texas_Jarhead

He and his then-wife also profited nicely from their treachery as they were paid tens of thousands of dollars for the information Pollard filched from his position of trust. So much for his supposed idealistic motives. I think he should be put in the same cell as Moussaui, birds of a feather flcok together.


25 posted on 05/09/2005 12:53:11 AM PDT by laconic
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To: Yehuda
so that SFB's like you in China can keep track of your money in the US through secure routers developed in Israel, while you likely use a computer whose chip was co-developed in Israel, to allow you to look at those transvestite pictures from Thailand you like so much. You can pick up your check from Osama whenever you want, at least till your chicomm masters tell him your real interests.


Well, I nominate your post for idiot of the year.
I guess a reasoned, educated response would have been too difficult for you to handle. Instead, you result to name calling and personal attacks at someone you know nothing about.
What a sad, little individual you are.
26 posted on 05/09/2005 12:58:24 AM PDT by Dr. Marten ((http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com))
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To: SmithL

Now we know why this Spy was caught - He will not shut up.

Every six months there's another "why we need to free Pollard story".

Just STFU and serve your time.


27 posted on 05/09/2005 1:00:43 AM PDT by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: laconic
He and his then-wife also profited nicely from their treachery as they were paid tens of thousands of dollars ...

My knowledge would also profit nicely, if You kindly provided it with information in support of Your claim.

28 posted on 05/09/2005 4:47:13 AM PDT by Words
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To: Dr. Marten

yeah yeah yeah: it's your posts that are filled with whining about atms in china and looking at tranny festivals online, all done while you are using IT tech developed in Israel.

STFU.


29 posted on 05/09/2005 10:19:29 PM PDT by Yehuda (America: Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE! [" Choke on it, pinkos!"])
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To: Yehuda

For one, I don't sit and look at tranny festivals. My reply on that thread was made as a joke to Killjoy because he is a photographer.

Second, I don't even know what the heck you are talking about...ATM's in China? WTF?

Last, none of the technology on my laptop was developed in Israel and I could care less if it were.

Why don't you grow up and get a life you poor little pathetic moron.


30 posted on 05/10/2005 1:58:46 AM PDT by Dr. Marten ((http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com) A "user friendly" program doesn't have a 600 page manual!)
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To: SmithL
RIVERS OF BABYLON by The Melodians
(B. Dowe - F. McHaughton, adapted from Psalm 137:1)
By the rivers of Babylon
Where we sat down
And there we wept
When we remembered Zion

But the wicked carried us away in captivity
Required from us a song
How can we sing King Alfa song
In a strange land
Cause the wicked carried us away in captivity
Required from us a song
How can we sing King Alfa song
In a strange land

Sing it out loud
Sing a song of freedom sister
Sing a song of freedom brother
We gotta sing and shout it
We gotta talk and shout it
Shout the song of freedom now

So let the words of our mouth
And the meditation of our heart
Be acceptable in Thy sight
Over I
So let the words of our mouth
And the meditation of our heart
Be acceptable in Thy sight
Over I

Sing it again
We've got to sing it together
Everyone of us together

By the rivers of Babylon...

31 posted on 05/10/2005 2:06:51 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Dr. Marten
Second, I don't even know what the heck you are talking about...ATM's in China? WTF?
Posted by Dr. Marten to TigerLikesRooster On News/Activism ^ 05/08/2005 1:10:02 AM EDT · 5 of 10 ^

I'm kind of curious about this myself. I have quite a bit of money stashed in my bank back in the US and for the most part, I don't need to touch it right now, but there have been a few times when I've had to make a trip to the Bank of China to pull some of it out at the ATM.

Last, none of the technology on my laptop was developed in Israel

No instant messenger? (developed from ICQ which was invented in Israel...).

And unless you use a Mac laptop instead of windows...

The Pentium MMX Chip technology was designed at Intel in Israel. Both the Pentium 4 microprocessor and the Centrino processor were entirely designed, developed, and produced in Israel. Voice mail technology was developed in Israel. The technology for the AOL Instant Messenger ICQ was developed in 1996 in Israel by four young Israeli whiz kids. Both Microsoft and Cisco built their only R.& D. facilities outside the US in Israel...

... Cell phone technology was also developed in Israel by Motorola, which has its biggest development center in Israel. Most of the latest technology in your mobile phone was developed by Israeli scientists.

and I could care less if it were.

Yeah, your arab and chinese friends could steal the designs for you, and then you could be consistent in your hate for Israel and your refusal to profit from their inventions.

32 posted on 05/10/2005 8:50:23 AM PDT by Yehuda (America: Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE! [" Choke on it, pinkos!"])
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

He spied on the United States of America. End of story. He is a traitor to our nation, and anything less than death by firing squad is too good for that turd. Maybe he should have thought about the potential ramifications before he stole our secrets. I support our relationship with Israel, but NO ONE has the right to betray America, even for our allies.


33 posted on 05/10/2005 9:01:47 AM PDT by Deo et Patria (Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: Yehuda

My comment to TLR was not a complaint about ATM's. Had yout read it carefully insted of shooting from the hip with your rabid unintellectual mind, you would have noticed that.

Second, I don't have AOL instant messanger installed on my computer. I used the web program. Nor do I have a Pentium chip.

Don't get your panties in a wad and start putting words in my mouth that I didnt say you little pipsqueak.

I never said I hate Israel and I just dare you to point out otherwise or STFU.

I'm just sick of the US giving them blind support when they also like to contribute to our enemies such as China. If it weren't for OUR support, they wouldn't have any..so why do they continue to sell us out?

Now, if you can respond in an intellectual, rather than rabid and ignorant manner..I will continue this dialogue. Otherwise...GF.


34 posted on 05/11/2005 8:21:11 AM PDT by Dr. Marten ((http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com) A "user friendly" program doesn't have a 600 page manual!)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
There is no other conclusion to come to but that Pollard's extreme Kafkaesque situation derives from anti-Semitic bias, a pattern for which there are, sadly, precedents in history.

The are only two things "Kafkaeske" about Pollard's "situation".

First, his own fantasies about torture and inhumane treatment.

Second, your fantasies about anti-Semitic bias.

Get a life. Pollard is a traitor who should have been shot.

35 posted on 05/11/2005 8:52:25 AM PDT by O6ret ("Experts" can be paid to say anything)
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To: Dr. Marten
"I'm just sick of the US giving them blind support when they also like to contribute to our enemies such as China."

The U.S.doesn't give Israel blind support;

The Israelis stopped selling to China when the U.S. asked them to stop;

The U.S. has at least as much investment in "our enemy such as China" as anyone, AND YOU ARE OVER THERE, YOU HYPOCRIT.

"If it weren't for OUR support, they wouldn't have any..so why do they continue to sell us out?""

""sell us out"?

What's the "us" stuff coming from a guy living in CHINA?

Israel doesn't "sell America out" anymore than America sells out Israel, WITH AMERICA CONSTANTLY ARMING ARABS.

"you little pipsqueak"

KMA, panty boy.
36 posted on 05/11/2005 9:18:42 AM PDT by Yehuda (America: Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE! [" Choke on it, pinkos!"])
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To: O6ret

"Experts" can be paid to say anything.

Are you an expert?


37 posted on 05/11/2005 7:52:16 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Nobody here cares; we all think he should have been shot years ago.


38 posted on 05/11/2005 7:57:38 PM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
Not so for Jonathan Pollard's increased practice of Judaism.

You should be embarassed to post that tripe; he didn't care one whit about being a Jew until he decided it was his way out if he can convince a bunch of gullible people he's a martyr.

This guy is a player till the end. You're being played.

39 posted on 05/11/2005 7:59:25 PM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: Words

Ah, he admitted it himself. How's that?


40 posted on 05/11/2005 8:01:54 PM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: Yehuda

You're being exceptionally nasty on this thread. Why?


41 posted on 05/11/2005 8:05:28 PM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: SmithL
Pollard's petition alleges he was kept naked for more than a year in solitary confinement in subzero temperatures

Do we have a prison on the South Pole, or do we just have great freezers with pipes at that prison?

42 posted on 05/11/2005 8:06:25 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: O6ret

Bump.


43 posted on 05/11/2005 8:07:01 PM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: Dog Gone

How about Door Number Three, Monty:

Pollard is a liar, always has been, always will be?


44 posted on 05/11/2005 8:08:54 PM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: Howlin

Moi?


45 posted on 05/11/2005 9:40:59 PM PDT by Yehuda (America: Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE! [" Choke on it, pinkos!"])
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