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To: BearWash; Judith Anne; Domestic Church; ThePythonicCow; Oorang
That is why NAC (N-Acetyl Cysteine) is high on my list (e.g. reference from Swedish Medical Center

Thank you for this addition. Also, thank you for the reference. We now have peer-reviewed journal articles for every single item.

The location where I buy Turmeric has it as a supplement, not a spice. It is standardized to 95% curcuminoids.

Thank you all for your responses.

BTW, all of the items we have discussed I have purchased very inexpensively at: Swanson Vitamins, and no I don't own stock or anything. The entire list can be had in reasonable quantity for under $100.

The revised list is then:

Vitamin C
Resveratrol
Sambucol (this is somewhat controversial, but I like it)
Cinnamon
Turmeric (standardized to 95% curcuminoids)
St. Johns Wort
Ginger
N-Acetyl Cysteine

By the way, an interesting observation I have made about all of this. Most of these items are listed as antioxidants in the nutritional catalogs, in fact, all of them are antioxidants except Sambucol, St. Johns Wort, and maybe Cinnamon.

2,164 posted on 11/27/2005 8:22:32 PM PST by 2ndreconmarine (Horse feces (929 citations) vs ID (0 citations) and horse feces wins!!!!!)
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To: 2ndreconmarine
I hadn't seen that NAC-Sustain product before, interesting! Time release is always a nice feature.

The reason I brought up standardization and percentage of active ingredient is that some people will buy a product just because they see the name, when in fact the potency varies wildly. We have seen the articles indicating that standardization isn't a perfect science either, but it's a start.

When I went through my lists and purchased OTC products, I first ordered two of each. Then I went back and ordered four of each. Now I'm going to order another four (I'll order the NAC-Sustain this time). With a product like NAC, if you have a few people in the family and take it twice a day, a bottle doesn't last long!

Same with Elderberry extract. I did choose the Planetary Formulas brand because it had twice the potency per volume, but it has since gone up twice in price!

2,165 posted on 11/27/2005 8:40:00 PM PST by steve86 (@)
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To: 2ndreconmarine
I will second the recommendation of Swanson Vitamins,

"Antioxidants" has become a strong marketing word in vitamin/nutrition sales. Perhaps someday someone can explain it to me in a way that I find persuasive. For now, that word triggers my hype-sensor more than it satisfies my understanding.

2,171 posted on 11/27/2005 10:15:59 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine
There seems to be a significant controversy over whether most resveratrol supplements are worth a darn. The claim of one producer of resveratrol supplement, Longevintex, is that all the other supplements are nearly inactive, due to how easy it is to oxidize resveratrol. That one product uses air tight, nitrogen packed, opaque capsules, and costs about one dollar a cap.

But elsewhere, I saw speculation that the claims of the uselessness of most resveratrol supplements was a ploy by the big pharmaceuticals to reduce the impact that that supplement risked having on their drug sales.

Do a Google search for Longevinex for more details.

As best as I can tell, the jury is still out.

We need some lab or clinical trials on the usefulness of ordinary resveratrol supplements, not lab grade, nitrogen packed stuff.

2,172 posted on 11/28/2005 12:05:54 AM PST by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine
If you do a Google search for "suppression TNF alpha synthesis Cat's claw cytokine", you will find reference to some studies that conclude that Cat's Claw is affective at suppressing TNF-alpha synthesis, hence reducing cytokine storms.

I'm adding Cat's Claw to my collection.

2,174 posted on 11/28/2005 12:55:54 AM PST by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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