Barnum on Steroids [The Kansas evolution "trial"]

The Baltimore Chronicle ^ | 09 May 2005 | Jason S. Miller

[Oztrich Boy]

It's a sorry situation when the MSM can attack conservatives without lying.

[savedbygrace]

I meant what I said, and I said what I meant.

Maybe so, but you were talking to yourself. If that's all you've got, then you are seriously stuck at the Begging the Question step.

I'm beginning to think that's all you've got.

[Oztrich Boy]

1) publish it in a scientific journal,
2) wait for it to be refuted,
3) refute that,
4) wait for your refutation to be refuted,
5) refute the refutation of your refutation,
6) wait some more,
7) when it's quiet, declare victory.

8) Wait as the rest of the scientific world says they thought you had the better case all along

[microgood]

It's a sorry situation when the MSM can attack conservatives without lying.

It's a scary situation when some "conservative" freepers endorse an article written by a guy who is to the left of Stalin.

BTW, there were many lies in the article, but most was just atheist evolutionist political spin, as evolution has become a political and not scientific theory. How do I know? Many atheist evolutionists on FR worship guys that write articles like this, and worst of all, worship the ACLU.

[Gumlegs]

A lot of new age cranks have been trying to make the Vedic/Taoist/ESP/You-Name-It link to quantum physics for years. They have nothing whatever to do with each other, and any similarities which appear to exist are because of imprecision in the English language.

I do not disparage philosophy. I merely point out that it isn't science.

[PatrickHenry]

I merely point out that it isn't science.

Who cares if it's science? This is a democracy. Teach the controversy. What are you afraid of? Let the children decide.
</flaming idiot mode>

[Gumlegs]

Let the children decide.

I did!! My son wrote that!

[exDemMom]

In the beginning the universe was created.

This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

See Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy recently? (Don't panic!)

[js1138]

It's a scary situation when a "conservative" Kansas school board endorses the science policies of an Islamic terrorist.

[jennyp]

It's a sorry situation when the MSM can attack conservatives without lying.

LOL!

I'm laughing through my tears. <sigh>

[exDemMom]

I do not disparage philosophy. I merely point out that it isn't science.

I think that somewhere along the line, someone decided that science is, indeed, a philosophical pursuit. A person gaining enough knowledge in science is granted a "Doctor of Philosophy" degree. Science is not, however, the kind of philosophy that leads one to wonder idiot things like "if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?"

[microgood]

It's a scary situation when a "conservative" Kansas school board endorses the science policies of an Islamic terrorist.

I agree. That is scary.

[edsheppa]

I think Behe and Dembski have a little more intellectual integity than the DUmmies.

If they did, they'd be duking it out in the science journals, not in books and articles in popular magazines and certainly not before a school board.

[Gumlegs]

I know I'm going to regret posting this without checking first, but I believe what we now call science was once called "natural philosophy." The term "science" is rather new, all things considered.

[exDemMom]

I think, if you break down the words into their root meanings, they are not so different: philosophy = Greek philos (love) + sophia (wisdom) and science, from the Latin word meaning "to know."

I love etymology, but my graduate schooling was paid for by the department of entomology.

[furball4paws]

I wonder what the article would have been like if Mencken had written it.

[PatrickHenry]

I believe what we now call science was once called "natural philosophy." The term "science" is rather new, all things considered.

That's my understanding. The Beginning of Modern Science.

[Oztrich Boy]

I wonder what the article would have been like if Mencken had written it.

Not being a liberal, he would have been sympathetic to the KC Creationists battle against Darwinism

[furball4paws]

"If I recall, they are saying that the generally accepted principles of microbiology provide no explanatory tools for what evolutionists claim to have happened. "

I am a microbiologist and I have no idea what you are saying. Would you care to elucidate?

[furball4paws]

Mencken was a democrat, although the democrats of a 100 years ago are quite extinct and probably fossilizing right before our very eyes.