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'Kingdom of Heaven' – Truth in Limbo - (tour de force review!)
NEWSMAX.COM ^ | MAY 9, 2005 | JAMES HIRSEN

Posted on 05/09/2005 4:47:54 PM PDT by CHARLITE

These days it seems that whenever Hollywood meets history, history gets the squeeze.

Last year "King Arthur," "Troy" and "Alexander" were put through the revisionist wringer. Today it's the factually challenged movie "Kingdom of Heaven" whose historical content appears to have been schmushed.

"Kingdom of Heaven"'s director Ridley Scott recently took a cue from Cecil B. DeMille and chose the Crusades as the subject of his latest epic. This is the same fellow who brought us "Gladiator" and "Blade Runner," which makes me wonder: How did a talented filmmaker like Scott get stuck with an incoherent script like this? It's understandable that a film dealing with the ancient battles that took place between European Christians and followers of Islam might seek to make some modern-day comparisons. But is it really necessary to stuff the screen with the kind of pseudo-humanistic claptrap that could make a knight dump his armor on eBay?

As is typical of today's Tinseltown chronicling, fiction is fused with fact, much to the chagrin of the more informed filmgoer.

The movie takes place in 1184, sometime between the Second and Third Crusade. At the top of the film the audience is introduced to a young blacksmith named Balian (played by Orlando Bloom). Balian receives a visit from Godfrey of Ibelin (played by Liam Neeson), who claims to have fathered him and is seeking forgiveness for having done so illegitimately.

After a few conversations with Godfrey, Balian switches out of his horse-shoeing duds and opts for Crusader couture instead. In a Middle Age minute, the guy transforms himself into the most formidable knight in town. He also starts stealing a page from MoveOn.org and some guidance counseling tips from Dr. Phil.

While on his deathbed, Godfrey knights Balian and instructs him to pursue the vision of a "kingdom of heaven," where Christians, Muslims and Jews can peacefully party together. Balian eventually finds himself as a stand-in for the king of Jerusalem and in a position to surrender the city to the Muslim army. But this doesn't happen until he's killed a creepy priest, given up on organized religion, tossed his faith out the door and joined the ranks of the "can't we all just get along" crowd.

The film has a certain cinematic allure for some. If you like lots of head-splitting, side-piercing, gut-wrenching, limb-flying battling between foes, then this flick is for you. If you like a hefty dose of accuracy with your historically based entertainment, then it's not. In part, here's why.

The film depicts Muslim leader Saladin's conquest of Jerusalem, with his forces breaking through the wall of the city during the final battle. But the actual battle was outside the city in a place known as Hattin. That's why it's called the Battle of Hattin.

On another note, in order to provoke Saladin, the knights knock off his sister. The truth is she was held up but never snuffed out.

But to me, the real problem with the movie's authenticity is the way it interjects sappy messages into the story line. Exceedingly clear is who the heroes are, and likewise who the villains are. Saladin (who, in one scene, respectfully cradles a fallen cross) is portrayed as a wise, seasoned and noble leader.

In contrast, Guy de Lusignan, crony Sir Reynald, and the Knights Templar are shown as bloodthirsty, empty-headed warmongers. And as you might have predicted, the Christian clergy are cast as cowardly hypocrites who want to kill "infidels."

Many who see the "Kingdom of Heaven" may not realize that the Crusades were actually defensive in nature. Christians didn't act until the Muslims had conquered two-thirds of the Western World, and the Crusaders believed that they were restoring formerly Christian territories to their rightful status.

In the film the only Christian good guys are Balian, leper-King of Jerusalem Baldwin IV and his minister Tiberius. But unlike other Christians in the flick, these folks aren't motivated by religious faith. Instead they spout a form of modernist egalitarian drivel that sounds like it was written by Dennis Kucinich.

Balian makes a dramatic speech before the final battle where he tells the assembled throng that the Muslim army, which is about to attack and kill all of them, has just as much right to rule as its Christian counterpart does. Rather than a call to arms, Balian gives his troops a call to multiculturalism. If a real medieval commander had given such a speech, he'd have been chopped into tiny little pieces.

Which is probably what should have happened to that section of the footage, along with all the other PC portions.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christendom; christians; crusades; director; european; infidels; jerusalem; jimhirsen; kingdomofheaven; knights; moviereview; muslims; ridleyscott; saladin
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Gotta love this line! "If a real medieval commander had given such a speech, he'd have been chopped into tiny little pieces."
1 posted on 05/09/2005 4:48:00 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

good find!!


2 posted on 05/09/2005 4:49:22 PM PDT by dennisw (2¢ plain)
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To: CHARLITE

Now now...from just this review I can guess this is a film about tolerance and the validity of all ideas, not just those extreme western principals.


3 posted on 05/09/2005 4:52:50 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: CHARLITE

Orlando Bloom practices some kind of trendy Buddhism, which kind of tells you all you need to know.


4 posted on 05/09/2005 4:57:37 PM PDT by ikka
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To: CHARLITE
I Slam Islam !!!
5 posted on 05/09/2005 5:00:33 PM PDT by GeekDejure ("That may be too late!" -- Laura)
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To: CHARLITE
I wonder when they're going to do a cinematic adaptation of one of Bat Ye'or's books. Maybe The Decline of Eastern Christianity under Islam: From Jihad to Dhimmitude would be good.
6 posted on 05/09/2005 5:04:06 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: CHARLITE
"In a Middle Age minute, the guy transforms himself into the most formidable knight in town."

Well hells bells, if Tom Cruise can become an extraordinary Samurai, then Orlando Bloom can become an extraordinary Knight. God wills it!

7 posted on 05/09/2005 5:04:56 PM PDT by Enterprise (Abortion and "euthanasia" - the twin destroyers of the Democrat Party.)
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To: ikka

"Nichiren Shoshu" Buddhism


8 posted on 05/09/2005 5:05:51 PM PDT by dennisw (2¢ plain)
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To: CHARLITE
Just last night we were talking about this. A friend who is a History major said he can't watch these movies, because he ends up yelling at the screen. I told him I'm not a History major, but I know exactly what he means. The most recent one, 'Troy' was mentioned.

We agreed the actual history of any era one wants to discuss is so much more interesting than any Hollywoodized crap, why do they continue to do those things.

9 posted on 05/09/2005 5:06:45 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Jane Fonda might as well make her gravestone a urinal. Semper Fi)
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To: CHARLITE
Hi Char.

Can anyone who saw this movie tell me if this is an accuate portrayal? Would be much appreciated, since I don't "go to the movies"...I buy them for home entertainment.

TIA!

FMCDH(BITS)

10 posted on 05/09/2005 5:11:27 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: CHARLITE

Anyone who thought this movie was going to be even remotely representative of history needs a massage.

In the meantime, I'm going to load up my DVD of "Lawrence of Arabia"...

11 posted on 05/09/2005 5:11:29 PM PDT by Fintan (Someday we'll look back on this moment and plow into a parked car.)
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To: CHARLITE

I was looking forward to this film.
Im glad I got a review before I wasted my money on it.
hollywood claptrap indeed :(


12 posted on 05/09/2005 5:13:38 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: CHARLITE
My 23-year-old son went to see it. He said it was historically confused and the story went nowhere after the first half. He's getting depressed about the abysmal talent putting out these "screedplays."

I told him he should try his hand at it.

He said "I don't have a history degree."

"All the better," I said.

13 posted on 05/09/2005 5:13:51 PM PDT by cookcounty ("We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the Courts" ---Abe Lincoln, 1858.)
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To: Fintan

LOA is a classic maybe I rewatch my DVD as well L0L


14 posted on 05/09/2005 5:16:02 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: CHARLITE

Have to agree, this Scott film didn't even get close to being another "Gladiator". Everything that was real to being human, which a viewer could relate to in Gladiator, (the evil emperor,the burning desire for just revenge, the passions of the man with his losses and his triumphs, his role as adopted son,friend and leader, etc.)was lost in "Kingdom".

Pondering on it, I first thought the cause was a bad screenplay. At times it was so formula. And the words coming out of the actors' mouths, how lofty and sometimes highbrow..."A king does not kill another king." It was as if everyone wanted to believed what they were espousing, but there was no tension, no sense of fear, no rousing inner spirit to gives way to moving speeches, those whichh touch the human emotions of the other characters, there wasn't even any fanatical passion (on either warring side, Christian or Muslim) before, during or after their bloody battles.

Wish it had been a better film, I went to see it wanting to be inspired as I was at Scott and Crowe's collaboration of Gladiator.


15 posted on 05/09/2005 5:16:44 PM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: dennisw
"Nichiren Shoshu"

Is this a new take-out dish? Does it come with fortune cookies?

16 posted on 05/09/2005 5:17:42 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I have a fabulous harlequin Great Dane named "Lucy!" :))
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To: nothingnew
Hi there, nothingnew! Greetings to your lovely wife!

Char :)

17 posted on 05/09/2005 5:18:43 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I have a fabulous harlequin Great Dane named "Lucy!" :))
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To: mylife

Well I saw the movie this past saturday and I did like it. But then I do not go to movies to have them verify my world view.

The heros in the movie were courageous, the villians vile. The last stand by Baelin and his handful of knights at Jeruselem was inspiring.

As a historic document, the movie left a lot to be desired. As a sword and sandal flick, it was quite good. I was entertained, and that is what I spent my money for.


18 posted on 05/09/2005 5:21:14 PM PDT by speed_addiction (If you expect the worse out of everybody, you won't be disappointed___Frank Castle)
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To: speed_addiction

I sure hope it was better than Troy


19 posted on 05/09/2005 5:25:48 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: CHARLITE

Soka Gakkai, which literally means “Establishing Value Education Society”, was founded in Japan in 1930 as a fraternal auxiliary to Nichiren Shoshu, the largest sect of Nichiren Buddhism. One of the results of this outreach is that Soka Gakkai has been much more effective than any other group at attracting non-Asian minority converts, chiefly black and Latino, to Buddhism. It has also been successful in attracting the support of celebrities, such as Tina Turner, Herbie Hancock, and Orlando Bloom.


20 posted on 05/09/2005 5:26:32 PM PDT by dennisw (2¢ plain)
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