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Rush Limbaugh: Why I Stay Out of Washington
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 5/9/05 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 05/09/2005 5:35:00 PM PDT by wagglebee

If you're a welfare recipient just getting up, and you may have missed the first hour of the program, once again, we're talking about the judicial nomination harangue going on in the Senate. Roll Call magazine is suggesting that Trent Lott, Republican, Ben Nelson, Democrat, are approaching six senators from each of their respective parties with a deal and the upshot of the deal is that the Democrats would get what they want. They get to cream three of the seven current nominees, the other four would be given floor votes and future nominees would not be filibustered unless a Democrat thought there were extreme circumstances involved which of course you can guarantee will be the fact that such will be raised, so it's essentially the Democrats deal. As I've always said, "What in the world is it that happens to these Republicans when they get to Washington and they forget who wins elections out there and who's in trouble?" They get to Washington, DC, and it's almost like they forget that it's the Democratic Party in trouble in this country, the Democratic Party is imploding.

I think it's sort of like the ghost of '94, you know, Newt and the gang take over the House, quote, unquote, that's the lingo, and then the government shutdown in '95 came, and then the impeachment of Clinton came. I think the Republicans in the Senate and I bet that Senate impeachment trial is something that does still scare the hell out of these guys because they think they ate a lot of excrement sandwiches after that and they're afraid of opposing any Democrat because they think the country is going to turn around and make them pay for it. And I think they're probably having the same reservations about confronting the judicial tyranny that the Democrats in the Senate are foisting on the country because they're afraid that the people of the country are going to take it out on them, the Republicans, if they do anything to stop this. In the meantime, the party that is imploding out there, the party that's not building, the party that is not doing one thing to expand its reach, is the Democrat Party. Robert Novak had a piece in his Saturday column. "Democratic National Committee fund-raising under the chairmanship of Howard Dean shows a disappointing $16.7 million raised in the first quarter of 2005, compared with $34 million reported by the Republicans."

Now, if you do the math the Republicans have raised twice as much money, the RNC has raised twice as much money as the Dean-led Democrat National Committee. "That tends to confirm dire predictions by old-line Democratic fund-raisers of a fall-off in money if Dean became chairman. He had promised to bring in heavy individual contributions, as he did in his 2004 campaign for president. But the DNC in the first quarter received only $13 million from individuals, compared to $31 million for the RNC. A footnote: A recent DNC fund-raising appeal promised to send field workers to North Carolina, which does not have a major statewide election until 2008." There's no major statewide election next year. Now, this is an indication of just how far behind they are. The Republicans have raised more than twice the money the Democrats have in the first quarter. The Democrats are imploding all over the place out there, and yet you get to Washington and the Republicans act like, "If we stand up for ourselves the people of this country are going to take it out on us." There has to be a long-held institutional reason for this belief, and as I keep saying it's something that's shrouded in fear. But this inability to recognize who's on the ropes. I mean, the Senate lost its minority leader in the 2004 elections. Tom Daschle, who led a similar effort that Dingy Harry is leading now, is now a lobbyist. Doing something in Washington. But he's out. He was defeated in the Senate. Everybody expected that the Democrats would realize this and maybe tone it back, but they've done nothing but the opposite. They have increased the inflammatory rhetoric; they have expanded their opposition. It is their only agenda item. There's nothing else on the agenda. They don't have one idea for anything. They don't have an idea on Social Security, they don't have an idea on North Korea, they don't have an idea on virtually any big issue of our times.

All they do is stand in the way. And yet the Republicans end up going to Washington, get caught up in the attitude that is that town, and somehow continue to think of themselves as the ones with the crosshairs trained on them. It's an amazing sight to behold. It makes me so happy that over the course of my many broadcasting years I have refused to spend significant time in Washington because I don't think the same circumstances would befall me but I don't even want to take the chance. It's a poison atmosphere there apparently and something a lot of people have trouble fighting, not everybody, but enough Republicans do that they want to be on the in, they want to be in the big clique, they want to be invited to the prom in May every year by the Democrats and so you get the Chuck Hagels, John McCains, George Voinoviches and all the rest.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beltway; congress; democrats; dhpl; dittoheads; filibuster; goldeneibmicrophone; gop; maharushie; republicans; rush; rushlimbaugh; senate
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It's a poison atmosphere there apparently and something a lot of people have trouble fighting, not everybody, but enough Republicans do that they want to be on the in, they want to be in the big clique, they want to be invited to the prom in May every year by the Democrats and so you get the Chuck Hagels, John McCains, George Voinoviches and all the rest.

This is a little discouraging, but it's also true.

1 posted on 05/09/2005 5:35:07 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

term limits would stop a whole bunch of that crap


2 posted on 05/09/2005 5:50:34 PM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: wagglebee

Washington has stringent Drug Laws?


3 posted on 05/09/2005 5:54:02 PM PDT by The_Republican
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To: wagglebee
..take the Votes, up or down...then we'll know to whom to defeat in the Congressional (Primary) Elections next time...and get rid of the G*d D@mn Scum.
4 posted on 05/09/2005 5:57:05 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: sure_fine

I think that after you're out of federal office--elected or otherwise--you shouldn't be allowed to set foot in the District for six years.

Not just lobby in. Set foot in.

That would almost make up for the ridiculous privileges shown to members while they're there.


5 posted on 05/09/2005 5:57:05 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: sure_fine

How true, but you know they will never go for that, they won't give up their cushy job.


6 posted on 05/09/2005 5:57:08 PM PDT by Bossy Gillis
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To: sure_fine

How true, but you know they will never go for that, they won't give up their cushy job.


7 posted on 05/09/2005 5:57:35 PM PDT by Bossy Gillis
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To: wagglebee

Voinovich was a piss poor Governer and he makes an even worse Senator.

God save us all if Taft runs for Congress...


8 posted on 05/09/2005 6:06:23 PM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: wagglebee

Rush is on target. Hope Hagel, etc., feel some heat.


9 posted on 05/09/2005 6:10:32 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: The_Republican
LOL! Yeah, and that too; though he won't admit it (like he doesn't admit a lot of things until the [stuff] hits the fan).
10 posted on 05/09/2005 6:21:14 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Well said!


11 posted on 05/09/2005 6:27:32 PM PDT by SIDENET (Yankee Air Pirate)
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To: wagglebee

Rush often gives simplistic explanations for things. Supposedly the media and the air in Washington corrupts these people. No, they are scared by some of the polls, and by the independent, moderate, or even liberal vote in their states, which they think they need. Sad fact is the country is not the big red bouldozer the conservative commentators paint it as. There are plenty of damn moderates/ liberals in them there hills.


12 posted on 05/09/2005 6:39:35 PM PDT by Williams
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To: solitas; The_Republican

Rush laughs at airhead females and metrosexuals - is that why you two have a problem with him?


13 posted on 05/09/2005 6:40:44 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (The DemocRAT Party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Williams; sure_fine

I agree with Sure_fine, term limits would go along way to preventing the problem.


14 posted on 05/09/2005 6:41:28 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Matchett-PI

Some people just don't like anyone smarter or more successful than they are.


15 posted on 05/09/2005 6:45:03 PM PDT by beandog (The only time I was wrong was the time I thought I was wrong)
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To: beandog

And I'm not too crazy about (self-inflicted) deaf, drug-headed liars either. :)


17 posted on 05/09/2005 6:49:25 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
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To: MikeWUSAF

Voinovich bad Governor......and worse Senator...

I called Voinovich's office re the Constitutional Option and was astounded by the rudeness of the woman I spoke with. She essentially hung up on me the first time I called, and when I called back she put me on hold....I tried to explain to her that we were..or, should be..on the "same side" so I didn't understand why she was so rude. Her explanation was they get a lot of calls....
Gee, and her job is ??? Guess, the Senator sets the tone for his staff.


18 posted on 05/09/2005 7:00:22 PM PDT by 4integrity (AJ)
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To: 4integrity

Voinovich = crook and Taft = RINO Moron

Thus Ohio = screwed


19 posted on 05/09/2005 7:03:46 PM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: sure_fine

Term limits...and perhaps devising a voting method of "involuntary mandatory drafting" to public office of the "best qualified" instead of having a career politician class.


20 posted on 05/09/2005 7:12:55 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: wagglebee
enough Republicans do that they want to be on the in, they want to be in the big clique, they want to be invited to the prom in May every year by the Democrats

Maybe this is leterally the case. The Dems have all the best hookers (male and female) under contract, and the Pubbies that "behave" the best get to party the most

21 posted on 05/09/2005 7:17:13 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (What does the wolf care how many sheep there be?)
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To: wagglebee
It's a LEADERSHIP issue! Even if we don't have the votes Frist has to bring it to the floor and resign as majority leader if they don't end the filibuster. If the blue blood country club Pubs think they can lead the party we will quickly go back to the days when they had 36 seats in the senate and the Rats immediately lowered the filibuster rule from 67 to 60. How stupid are these people. Don't they ever learn?
22 posted on 05/09/2005 7:18:42 PM PDT by wmfights (lead,follow,or get out of the way)
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To: sarasmom

involuntary mandatory drafting?



can not see that working


23 posted on 05/09/2005 7:18:44 PM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: b4its2late; Recovering_Democrat; Alissa; Pan_Yans Wife; LADY J; mathluv; browardchad; cardinal4; ...

24 posted on 05/09/2005 7:22:25 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("Mr. Chamberlain loves the working man, he loves to see him work" - Winston Churchill)
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To: wagglebee
RNC raises double what the DNC does? That surprises anyone? Lets see, the democrat base is full of people mostly living on entitlements, the Republican base is mostly middle class, and entrepreneurs. Believe me, there aren't enough wealthy single donors to the dems to offset all the Joe six packs out here.
25 posted on 05/09/2005 7:30:16 PM PDT by Boiling point (If God had not meant for man to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat!)
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To: The_Republican
"Washington has stringent Drug Laws?"

Yes. Upon entering the city, all drugs in one's possession must be personally surrendered to the mayor for immediate consumption.

26 posted on 05/09/2005 7:33:05 PM PDT by Majic (Internationalism is just nationalism on a more ambitious scale.)
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To: wagglebee

Whats really beginning to piss me off about the Reps is that when you look at it they have two main constituency's....the business conservatives and the social conservatives. Now they seem to have no problem getting their act together and ramming legislation through that the business conservatives want, yet when it comes to the issues of the social conservatives who actually make up the majority of their voters.....they suddenly get inept, disorganized, and willing to "compromise". They had better wake up and understand the social conservatives aren't stupid, and aren't going to continue to be played for fools.


27 posted on 05/09/2005 7:48:01 PM PDT by Dreagon
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To: sure_fine
Why not?

Lots of people keep bringing up an involuntary military draft.
Which, BTW, the military does not want.
Why not an involuntarily term limited representative government?
28 posted on 05/09/2005 7:52:41 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: sarasmom

Ted Kennedy is the perfect example of why we need term limits.When a politician remains in Washington too long he becomes a fat useless slob who spends too much money.By limiting them to two terms we limit the amount of damage they can do.


29 posted on 05/09/2005 8:04:17 PM PDT by rdcorso (To Fight And Win The War On Terror We Must Secure Our Borders Now.)
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To: sarasmom

Why not?



...thats a no brainer;
for the same reason the military don't want it, why have someone in there that don't want to be in there?


30 posted on 05/09/2005 8:14:28 PM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Majic

ROFL
"The b*tch set me up."


31 posted on 05/09/2005 8:16:42 PM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: sarasmom

Why not an involuntarily term limited representative government?






call it what it is, "forced in"....its PC to call it 'involuntary'


32 posted on 05/09/2005 8:16:46 PM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: sure_fine

Well, one could debate that those who actully actively crave political power over peers are the least likely to weild power wisely or properly.

USA military power structures, OTOH, are not designed to reward incompetants.


33 posted on 05/09/2005 8:23:03 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: sure_fine
"term limits would stop a whole bunch of that crap"

Well thank Dick Armey and other like-minded Republicans for killing that idea. Once they got the power, well then no need for that crap huh? Typical politicians.
34 posted on 05/09/2005 8:42:53 PM PDT by libertarianben (Looking for sanity and his hard to find cousin common sense)
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To: libertarianben
By the way, someone needs to tell Rush that his precious Republican Party is not much different than the Democratic Party he keeps bitching about. They enjoy spending, creating more government as well. Just for different reasons of course.
35 posted on 05/09/2005 8:47:39 PM PDT by libertarianben (Looking for sanity and his hard to find cousin common sense)
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To: Matchett-PI
Rush laughs at airhead females and metrosexuals - is that why you two have a problem with him?

I thought Rush hired a lawyer because he is facing possible criminal charges with illegal drug use.

36 posted on 05/09/2005 8:51:24 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981

"I thought Rush hired a lawyer because he is facing possible criminal charges with illegal drug use."

No, I don't think anybody sane has accused him of using any drugs that hadn't been prescribed for him, or of using drugs recreationally.

As I understand it, DemonRat operatives who happen to be in "public service" decided to go after him for something called "doctor shopping," which is sort of like using the RICO statutes to go after the Salvation Army.

The doctor shopping laws are supposed to punish people for exploiting real maladies to obtain multiple prescriptions from different doctors for the purpose of selling or giving away the surplus. Nobody has even alleged that Limbaugh did any such thing.


37 posted on 05/09/2005 9:14:19 PM PDT by dsc
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To: MikeWUSAF
God save us all if Taft runs for Congress

Well, yes, God save us indeed. But I don't see it. Taft would have a tough time being elected dog-catcher anywhere in Ohio about now. I think we pubbies are more enraged with him and his betrayals than the 'rats are.

38 posted on 05/09/2005 9:23:56 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: sure_fine
term limits would stop a whole bunch of that crap

39 of 55 gop senators have served less than 12 years. of those 39 are the promenient "rinos" voinivich, snowe, collins, and chafee.

39 posted on 05/09/2005 11:24:14 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: sarasmom

Your idea is the only constructive thing I found in this thread. I would hope we could start looking at the mess in Washington and try to come up with realistic solutions to the problem. Good ideas have a way of growing.

Here is mine: The root of the problem is that it takes a huge pile of cash to win an election to the House or the Senate. So inevitably a candidate must nearly sell his soul to big bucks supporters to have a chance. We need to go back to the original constitution where each representative represented about 30,000 people. This would create a huge congress of over 8,000 congressmen. We would eliminate all congressional staff, and each congressmen would only be part time and expected to continue with at least half time on their current job. Congressional salaries would be around $20K per year. Congressmen would stay home and vote via the Internet from their home offices. Turn Washington into a ghost town.

For the senate, I would go back to the original concept of each Senator is appointed by the Governor with the advice and consent of each state legislature. That would eliminate senate elections entirely. I would make senators work with only a staff of 2 and they would have to stay in their home state and vote via the Internet also.





40 posted on 05/09/2005 11:56:19 PM PDT by LloydofDSS (Christian supporter of Bush and Arnold.)
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To: staytrue

"39 of 55 gop senators have served less than 12 years. of those 39 are the promenient "rinos" voinivich, snowe, collins, and chafee"





then we should know who not to let serve another 12 years in our current setup


41 posted on 05/10/2005 3:44:33 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: wagglebee

While it may be discouraging, it's also cover for Rush not to put his actions where his talk is. It's easy to say how bad things are. It's hard to come up with workable solutions and then provide the leadership to see them through. It's give, take, move forward, step back. It's about representing your district or state and the wishes of those in those districts or states. Many districts and states aren't comprised of homegenous groups of people all desiring the same outcomes or their issues don't have the same priority.


42 posted on 05/10/2005 3:49:23 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: hinckley buzzard

Saw Shaft last year at a rally for GW in Cincinnati.

He was literally booed off the stage. The yelling and anger made the secret service nervous...

Blackwell would be a good choice. He differs from Shaft and wants to cut taxes.


43 posted on 05/10/2005 5:29:21 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: wagglebee
TERM LIMITS NOW!
44 posted on 05/10/2005 5:51:52 AM PDT by RushCrush (Never give in. Never, never, never, never!)
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To: solitas
Rush Limbaugh's hearing problems had nothing to do with his drug addiction.

But if you are so convinced, I'll look at your proof. Let me know.

45 posted on 05/10/2005 5:53:58 AM PDT by RushCrush (Never give in. Never, never, never, never!)
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To: solitas; beandog; RushCrush
And I'm not too crazy about (self-inflicted) deaf, drug-headed liars either. ..Isn't THAT special??
46 posted on 05/10/2005 7:18:08 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (The DemocRAT Party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: RushCrush
Rush Limbaugh's hearing problems had nothing to do with his drug addiction.

Sorry, I like Rush and am willing to stand with him when he makes mistakes, for all that he's done for the cause. But it's just too much of a coincidence that he went deaf at the same time he was taking huge doses of painkillers that just happen to have risk of deafness as a side-effect.

I really think Rush should bite the bullet and own up to this. Unfortunately, he had a "prestigious" hearing foundation in Los Angeles cover for him on this subject, so now whatever he says affects their reputation as well.

47 posted on 05/10/2005 7:20:55 AM PDT by Yossarian (Remember: NOT ALL HEART ATTACKS HAVE TRADITIONAL SYMPTOMS)
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To: RushCrush

"Rush Limbaugh's hearing problems had nothing to do with his drug addiction."

How do you know?

suppose it has everything to do with, do you expect him to admit that? Let's be realistic here. Rush says he is losing his hearing all of the sudden, and than has to admit that is addicted to the heroin equivalent.

http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/7051870.htm
"One case study in the research involved a man who took escalating doses of Vicodin for eight to nine years for migraine headaches, until eventually he was downing 35 tablets a day. The other patient in the study, also a migraine sufferer, took 60 pills a day. Both ended up with hearing loss in both ears.

"


48 posted on 05/10/2005 7:26:43 AM PDT by velyrorenry
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To: Yossarian; solitas; beandog; RushCrush; oldglory; MinuteGal; JulieRNR21; sheikdetailfeather; ...

"I really think Rush should bite the bullet and own up to this"

"Isn't that special"?? Hahahaha

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under live robber barons than under omnipotent moral busibodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good, will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~ C.S. Lewis

49 posted on 05/10/2005 7:28:16 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (The DemocRAT Party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: velyrorenry

Rush's hearing loss was due to a virus. It was not due to his alleged abuse of narcotics.

Yes I know the case histories. I am a physician.


50 posted on 05/10/2005 7:30:41 AM PDT by RushCrush (Never give in. Never, never, never, never!)
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