Posted on 05/09/2005 5:54:15 PM PDT by 45Auto
As I joke to my liberal friends who say "well, I won't move to canada like
I promised because we only have 4 more years of w"...the constitution says
one cannot be *elected* to office of the president more than twice, but
one can *serve* more then two times.
If the people who claim that W was not truly elected in 2000 can make
their case sufficiently in a court of law, then he could run in 2008:)
Personally though, I'd prefer someone who supports the rule of law.
Exactly. I am afraid that for a variety of reasons we have unfortunately allowed the issue to be focused from the perspecitves of legality and national security. This gives the elites an easy out: assure us that immigrants will be screened to weed out potential terrorists, cobble together some sort of pro-forma documentation and let the flood continue. Yes, national security is an issue. But simply providing a way to screen the millions of third world immigrants flowing into the country to ensure they present no national security concerns ignores their economic and cultural impact.
This is already Dubya's "legacy" -- he doesn't believe the United States of America is a sovereign nation.
Sorry for the confusion...Ill try to clear things up a bit...
I said that allowing illegal immigration to go unchecked will eventually result in establishing a socialist power base for the democrats / leftists.
Do you agree with that for starters?
I never mentioned Bush by name...nor did I assign motive or agenda to him. I dont know why Bush is inattentive to the illegal immigration issue. If you know...you can educate me and others....clear up my confusion as it were.
Sometimes people do the right things for the wrong reasons...or the wrong things for the right reasons. Sometimes people make misjudgements. Bush has misjudged the immigration issue. That doesnt mean Bush has a socialist agenda. But Big Labor, and other leftist groups...who favor unchecked immigration do have a socialist agenda. Bush's inattention to this issue enables those who have a socialist agenda.
Does that help?
"Oh, really? I guess that's why West Coast author, columnist, NewsMax contributor and talk show host Kathleen Antrim told me that the porous Mexico-California border is "drowning our state's economy, to the tune of about $10.5 billion a year." Sixty-five emergency rooms in Southern California had to shut down, "hung out to dry on millions and millions of unpaid medical bills." "
Wait until a few FReepers have to admit their mother or father to the emergency room for a stroke or a heart attack, and have the emergency room full of illegals with superficial cuts and head colds.....like what happened to me with my dad at St John's Hospital 4 years ago. I had to physically threaten an orderly to have him examined. I was almost arrested. I am no longer a Republican; at least not until they clean up their act big time. I will never vote for any other party either, I will just stay home, and hope we clean out the polluted vermin in our party.
Bush's failure to confront the issue of border control is the biggest failure of his Presidency. Conservatives in Congress need to stand up to him on this issue.
This is how it is going to happen. Our leaders will pretend to be shocked! shocked! when the courts spring the trap, after our leaders have laid the bait.
Fernando Ortiz was a ‘landscape engineer’ on Long Island who had demanded to be able to vote, on the basis that he had been paying state and federal taxes for ten years. Actually, he had been stopped from casting a ballot by a poll watcher who had suspected his citizenship status, and (illegally, as it turned out) demanded proof of his identity and legal qualification to vote. Ortiz had won a multi-million dollar settlement against the Republican Party of New York in the subsequent “racial profiling and ethnic intimidation” civil suit, but he did not stop there.
Instead, with massive support from the ACLU and various Hispanic “immigrants rights” foundations, he had pressed his demand to be allowed to vote all the way to the Supreme Court…and he won. The Supreme Court, in its famous 5-4 decision, ruled that negligence in securing America’s borders against illegal immigration on the part of the federal government, could not be held against “undocumented workers who played by the rules and paid their taxes,” once they were established in America—legally or not. The federal government had not taken reasonable efforts to secure the border, and had not pursued "undocumented workers" in the USA. Instead, it openly permitted them most of the benefits of citizenship, and it collected their taxes. "No taxation without representation!" was the cry heard all the way to the Supreme Court. The State of New York had then sleep-walked through an aimless and desultory case for denying the vote—and citizenship—to “undocumented workers.”
Following Ortiz v. New York, a stunned America woke up to discover that there were not only an amazing twenty-two million illegal aliens hiding in plain sight across the land, but that eight million of them immediately qualified to vote. In a nation split 50-50 down party and ideological lines, these eight million new voters were recognized to be the certain majority-makers in future elections, and both parties set record lows for cravenness in pandering to their “needs.” Chief among their “needs” were liberal new family reunification laws, and these instant citizens—illegal aliens only a year before—began bringing the remainders of their families to the USA. Legally.
See my last about how millions of illegals are going to be given the vote, and soon.
I never intended to get "crossways with you" just didn't understand. I do agree that the immigration problem helps the lefties. While you may not have mentioned Bush's name, the name of the thread does. I am very confused by GWB's inaction on the border. That is my main source of confusion. The real big problem now is that it is no longer just an immigration issue, but a matter of CRITICAL national security. Why is he fiddling around ?
It is important to get the masses worked up again to vote AGAINST the evil that the opponent represents. Too bad the politicians don't believe their own BS. Do a google of Hillary and Bush. See the happy little faces. Do these people look like they are afraid of each other? NO!??? That is because they are of the same class. Whether it matters or not which side wins office, I don't believe it does, and a growing number believe just like me.
Some Republican in the senate needs to utter the word "Impeachment".
I watched the author on C-Span back in the nineties. His premise was quite believable to me even back then. I never found his book, but always wanted to read it. You are right about the country ALREADY being changed drastically..
Medved today was speaking of how it is "cheeky for Americans to gripe about the latinos coming here, California belonged to them first". Although he softened that statement later, it stands as the mans true thoughts. This comment was in a conversation about the teaching of history about the Alamo, on Nickelodion.
and I up the moratorium to 20 years.... any seconds???
This author MIGHT be part of the white supremacy crowd. No accusation here, but the word came up up when I did an IXQUICK METASEARCH.
And we will be told that although they acknowledge the problem, there is "nothing" that can be done to rectify it. Each side will blame the other side, and the butt-covering will go on and on...while America sinks into third world status.
And that is why we must not settle for anything less than zero tolerance on the immigration issue. Our culture is superior to their and their influx is destroying ours. Unacceptable.
If you own a private jet and live in a walled compound, and can afford to travel in armored SUVs with armed bodyguards, third world nations can be even more fun than first world nations. You have an unlimited supply of slaves, and you can pick all the pretty slave girls you want.
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