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Top Vermont Democrats Not Ready To Back Sanders’ U.S. Senate Bid (Socialist Bernie Sanders)
The Vermont Guardian ^ | May 9, 2005 | Shay Totten

Posted on 05/09/2005 6:48:17 PM PDT by MisterRepublican

The two top Democrats in Vermont — former Gov. Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee and U.S. Sen. Patrick Leahy — are not ready to endorse U.S. Rep. Bernie Sanders in his bid for the U.S. Senate in 2006.

Sanders, who has launched his 2006 campaign in cyberspace and is talking up his bid outside of Vermont, has remained relatively quiet at home about the pending race.

Conventional political wisdom holds that Sanders will get the backing of Democrats, support he has seen in almost all of his seven congressional races. Only once did a Democrat formally oppose Sanders, but that candidate did not have the full support of the state party.

Sanders hopes to become the first independent ever elected to the upper chamber, replacing Sen. Jim Jeffords. Although Jeffords will retire as an independent, he was elected to the post as a Republican. He left the party in 2001 over differences with the Bush administration. Jeffords announced his retirement from Vermont politics on April 20.

To date, Sanders has received favorable comments from Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-NV, and Sen. Charles Schumer, D-NY, who is heading up the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. However, there has been no official support offered.

Leahy, who has held Vermont’s other Senate seat since 1974 and ranks as the titular head of the state party, isn’t ready to throw his support to Sanders.

"Senator Leahy and Congressman Sanders have had a long, close and successful working relationship together on behalf of Vermont's agenda. [Leahy] has discussed the upcoming Senate vacancy with Congressman Sanders and with party leaders and others in Vermont, and I'm sure there will be many more such discussions,” said spokesman David Carle.

(Excerpt) Read more at vermontguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: 2006; berniesanders; chairmandean; dems; electionussenate; sanders; vt
Likewise, former Gov. Howard Dean, who won his first election to the Vermont legislature against a Progressive, is not yet ready to throw the weight of the DNC behind Sanders either.
1 posted on 05/09/2005 6:48:17 PM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: MisterRepublican

I read somewhere that this seat has been in GOP hands since the Civil War...anyone know if that's true?


2 posted on 05/09/2005 6:52:25 PM PDT by Guillermo (Vote for Pedro)
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To: Guillermo

Since the current occupant is not a Republican, I guess not.


3 posted on 05/09/2005 6:57:09 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: MisterRepublican

First they have Jumpin' Jim Jeffords and now they'll get Bolshevik Bernie Sanders. Not to mention Screamin' Dean. What a state.


4 posted on 05/09/2005 7:00:15 PM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: Brilliant

Well, when he was elected, he was.


5 posted on 05/09/2005 7:06:55 PM PDT by Guillermo (Vote for Pedro)
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To: Guillermo

That is true. In fact, Leahy is the only Democrat Senator in Vermont history.


6 posted on 05/09/2005 7:14:29 PM PDT by writmeister
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To: writmeister

So are there any credible Republicans running?


7 posted on 05/09/2005 7:15:22 PM PDT by Guillermo (Vote for Pedro)
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To: Guillermo

There have been a series of RINOs in that seat going back to at least the 1950s -- George Aiken, Bob Stafford, and Jumping Jim. Vermont was one of only two states to vote against FDR in 1936, and was of course home to Calvin Coolidge, so it does have some glory in its distant past. But not much lately.


8 posted on 05/09/2005 7:15:38 PM PDT by speedy
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To: MisterRepublican

It is true that the seat was in GOP hands since before the Civil War until Jumpin' Jim Jeffords stabbed his party, his colleagues, and his supporters in the back in 2001. Sanders will probably win the seat. Dems are just posturing, and will not run a candidate against Sanders. GOP Lt. Governor Brian Dubie may run if he does not blink and opt for the US Representative seat being vacated by Sanders. Dubie is popular and about as conservative a candidate as you will find in overwhelmingly liberal Vermont. He is pro-life(unusual in Vermont). He is good looking but not a remarkably effective campaigner. Sanders is a hard worker who tempers his internationalist extreme left beliefs with plenty of populist rhetoric.
The fact that Sanders first move is to crank up the leftist funding machine outside of Vermont should be seized upon as an issue by whoever becomes the GOP nominee. Vermonters are notoriously independent and sensitive to outside influence.


9 posted on 05/09/2005 7:17:00 PM PDT by billndin
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To: MisterRepublican

It says a lot about the Democrat Party that they will end up endorsing and voting in an avowed Socialist. The regular Dems are too coy to be so open about their beliefs. can the GOP make some points nationally, in other races, by pointing out this as an example of what the Democrat Party has become?


10 posted on 05/09/2005 7:17:05 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: speedy

A RINO from a lefty state is OK.

Now, a RINO from a state that elects conservatives, like Arizona, Nebraska and Penn...they are not tolerable.


11 posted on 05/09/2005 7:17:18 PM PDT by Guillermo (Vote for Pedro)
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To: Guillermo

I can't believe the Republicans wouldn't be able to win the seat, even in Vermont. When your opponent is an open and avowed Socialist, you could really hang this noose - even nationally - around the Dems' necks.

"See....we told you they supported Socialism!"

I have to believe this is a winnable seat....


12 posted on 05/09/2005 7:20:29 PM PDT by TitansAFC ("It would be a hard government that should tax its people 1/10th part of their income."-Ben Franklin)
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To: TitansAFC

Well, if History is any guide...

And, the Governor is a GOP'er.


13 posted on 05/09/2005 7:21:42 PM PDT by Guillermo (Vote for Pedro)
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To: Guillermo
Well, when he was elected, he was.

And when I was born I was a virgin.

14 posted on 05/09/2005 7:25:11 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Guillermo

Yep, it's a matter of settling for the best you can get. Jesse Helms would not get elected in MA, so the best we can hope for is a Mitt Romney. AZ and NE can do better, though, and we expect them to.


15 posted on 05/09/2005 7:27:30 PM PDT by speedy
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To: DeweyCA

"It says a lot about the Democrat Party that they will end up endorsing and voting in an avowed Socialist. The regular Dems are too coy to be so open about their beliefs. can the GOP make some points nationally, in other races, by pointing out this as an example of what the Democrat Party has become?"

During the Age of Enlightenment (1700 - 1800) there were utopian-socialist writers. None influenced nor inspired America's founding patriarchy.

Ref:Early Socialism Lecture Notes http://www.faculty.goucher.edu/history231/early_socialism_notes/htm

I believe it was Mark Twain who said, in effect, there are no new thoughts nor original ideas in philosophy under the sun.


16 posted on 05/09/2005 7:35:23 PM PDT by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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To: MisterRepublican

Hey - at least Bernie is honest - he's a freakin' socialist and proud of it. All the other liberals have to lie and call themselves 'progressives.'


17 posted on 05/09/2005 7:36:09 PM PDT by GianniV
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To: DeweyCA

"It says a lot about the Democrat Party that they will end up endorsing and voting in an avowed Socialist. The regular Dems are too coy to be so open about their beliefs. can the GOP make some points nationally, in other races, by pointing out this as an example of what the Democrat Party has become?"

During the Age of Enlightenment (1700 - 1800) there were utopian-socialist writers. None influenced nor inspired America's founding patriarchy.

Ref:Early Socialism Lecture Notes http://www.faculty.goucher.edu/history231/early_socialism_notes/htm

I believe it was Mark Twain who said, in effect, there are no new thoughts nor original ideas in philosophy under the sun.


18 posted on 05/09/2005 7:36:21 PM PDT by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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To: speedy

Good mention of Coolidge, who is one of the best Presidents of this century. He was one of the last true federalists; he would not involve the federal government in matters that were not outlined to it in the Constitution. Once, there was a major natural castrophe somewhere in the Southwest and the state requested funds from the government; Coolidge said no way; the government had no power to take $$ from one state and send it to another.

Can you imagine any politician saying that today?


19 posted on 05/09/2005 7:39:25 PM PDT by GianniV
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To: GianniV

The party with which Sanders is affiliated (the Socialists) is called the "Progressive Coalition" party. It solely exists in VT and has several legislators and the Mayorship of the largest city of Burlington. So even in this case, they don't have the cajones to officially call themselves the "Socialist" party.


20 posted on 05/09/2005 7:43:28 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (*Gregoire is French for Stealing an Election*)
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To: GianniV

Coolidge and Grover Cleveland -- a Democrat, amazingly enough -- were probably the two most consistent limited-government Presidents of the post-Civil War Era (or of any era, for that matter.) Coolidge was a highly intelligent man who, despite his simple and rather homely modes of expression, translated from Latin and Greek for recreation and had a firm grasp of economic theory. BTW, Coolidge's hometown of Plymouth Notch is a beautiful place to visit and should be a Freeper shrine.


21 posted on 05/09/2005 7:49:08 PM PDT by speedy
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To: Guillermo
So are there any credible Republicans running?

As of now, no. However, the Republicans have a candidate for the House seat that have Democrats sweating, albeit she is a RINO like Jeffords was.

22 posted on 05/09/2005 7:54:12 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: speedy
Coolidge was a highly intelligent man who, despite his simple and rather homely modes of expression, translated from Latin and Greek for recreation and had a firm grasp of economic theory.

He was probably one (if not the most) underated president in this history of this nation.

Its a shame too.

For gods sake, at one point, unemployment dropped below 2%. Today, if it even got anywhere near that number, left wingers would be screaming bloody murder thinking that would cause inflation.

23 posted on 05/09/2005 7:59:44 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M

Absolutely. Of course, the Smart Set of his day heaped ridicule on him, too. Like Reagan and Bush, he took it all good-naturedly and never struck back in kind. He was a very decent man, too. He took the Constitution very seriously and tried to the best of his ability to make all of his actions consistent with its stated intention. Leftist historians, starting with the New Deal, have attempted to paint him as a bumpkin who was in over his head as President. Reagan helped to revive his reputation by putting his portrait in the Oval Office. I think most Conservatives now rate him as one of our truly fine Presidents.


24 posted on 05/09/2005 8:37:55 PM PDT by speedy
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To: speedy
I think most Conservatives now rate him as one of our truly fine Presidents.

No doubt about that.

Though one must also concede, he may have also been one of the funniest presidents, his sense of humor would probably rival any presidential contender today, and was in the same league as President Reagans.

25 posted on 05/09/2005 8:40:34 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: fieldmarshaldj; GianniV

They're all Marxist commies to the core and there's nothing honest about them in the least. I love the fact that Dean and Leahy slapped Bernie in the face. Implode you leftist scum. There's no place for you in a republic.


26 posted on 05/09/2005 8:49:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: writmeister
That is true. In fact, Leahy is the only Democrat Senator in Vermont history.

So that means he could/would/will also be the 'first' ex-Democrat Senator in Vermont history?

27 posted on 05/09/2005 8:50:03 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; GianniV

Er, in case that wasn't clear, I meant those final comments for Dean, Leahy, Sanders and ilk, not you two.


28 posted on 05/09/2005 8:51:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: quantim

Not for six more years at least. He was just re-elected last fall.


29 posted on 05/09/2005 8:53:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: Sonny M

Yes, he tended to be light-hearted and did not take himself, or his critics, too seriously. If you have not been to his home, you really should go -- you get a great feeling for what he was like -- the plainest, simplest of people who through a series of unlikely events found himself President. I first went there in the late 70s and actually met his son John, who ran the family cheese business. They used to say it was the only place on earth where you could get a Coolidge Burger.


30 posted on 05/09/2005 8:55:36 PM PDT by speedy
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To: MisterRepublican

If Reps aren't going to run a good candidate in Vermont than I welcome Bernie to the U.S. Senate. I cannot tolerate the man, good news is the majority of Americans will feel the same. Perfect face to join Kennedy, Kerry, Hillary, Boxer, Reid and Pelosi.


31 posted on 05/09/2005 9:32:22 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: TigersEye

Who said Vermont is a republic ? They've gone to Quebec in a handbasket.


32 posted on 05/09/2005 9:37:30 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (*Gregoire is French for Stealing an Election*)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I was speaking of the country as a whole. But then your comment would still fit wouldn't it?


33 posted on 05/10/2005 4:19:37 AM PDT by TigersEye ("Terri put the lie to them all. She wanted to live and she proved it." - 8mmMauser)
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