Posted on 05/10/2005 6:23:48 PM PDT by M. Espinola
It's hard to "remain" something when you haven't even started.
absurd there are no young couples in Germany.
Well taken point.
It is now time for the Jews to rehabilitate all Germans. The Jew must accept the appologies of the German and move on. Most of the Jews bitterness towards the German, IMHO, is the rejection of them by the ordinary German in the late 1930's. The German Jew considered themselves Germans. The "country turned" on them just like a brother or sister might do. The Jew today, IMHO, is mostly bitter because of this "sibling" rejection.
Interesting opinion. No doubt the Jews of Germany considered themselves German, and one of the many reasons they did not awaken to the fate that awaited them was because they considered themselves German citizens, and many had fought for Germany in WWI.
I can sympathize with the Germans in a way, because there are many, many memorials all throughout Germany to the Holocaust 60 years ago, and it's more than enough of a time interval that most Germans had no part in the horror, but the simple truth, to me, is that we should NEVER FORGET what happened.
Those that do not learn from the past are cursed to repeat it.
I've been to Dachau and seen the memorial there. I think every European should visit it before graduating High School.
This whole holocaust thing would be so much more convenient if it just hadn't happened.
- is the typical German sentiment toward it, in my observation.
But I must qualify though; I know some Germans who are deeply grieved and remorseful for it.
To a 'young' person born after the core source of all of this, I would have to agree.
Look at the deep social, cultural, and psycological impact Slavery has in the USA. And this is after 3-4 generations and a civil war to end it.
Meanwhile there are 'young' people in Germany, whos fathers and grandfathers tried to take over the world, intentionally killing thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of innocent men, women, and children... driven by this ideology that could be described as 'racism of relgion', that genuinely feel they are on the "moral high ground" about Iraq and feel perfectly comfortable wagging a finger at the USA for 'human rights abuses' like the Pope on Sunday.
I'm not saying they aren't sorry for anything... but they certainly 'got over their sins' awefully quickly (probably has something to do with the permissive socialism)
Londoner here, domiciled Canada. Survived WW2 bombing. Says I, thank God yer missed me!. 70,000 British died. 500,000 Germans,in the bombing raids. I will wisely temper what I really want to say but.... "Man's inhumanity to man makes countless thousands mourn". Robert Burns, Scotlands own gift to human kind, plus Sir Alexander Fleming.
Sadly, there are those who wish to visit on ONE group of people a terrible crime,to the exclusion of others. We know them.
Incidentally, it has been placed very close to the site of Hitler's Reich Chancellory.
Sadly, there are those who wish to visit on ONE group of people a terrible crime,to the exclusion of others. We know them.
Are you trying to compare German who died in the bombing raids to the British who died in the German bombing raids or even people who died in the Holocaust?
All the Germans who died in WW2 got what they DESERVED! They democractically elected the Nazis, and they all took part in the mass mob attacks upon Jews! The Germans knew what was happening in the concentration camps and were GLAD! They gladly took the homes and wealth of Jews who were stripped naked and shoved into gas chambers and ovens.
Showing sypmathy for those Germans is like showing sypmathy for Muslims who danced on the streets on 9/11 when they get whats coming to them!
How many years more should Germans apologize for the Holocaust in your opinion ?
Interesting.
Surely you have heard of individual and collective guilt?
"IMHO, is mostly bitter because of this "sibling" rejection."
Yes, of the Cain and Abel type.
How about they're bitter because the Germans eliminated half their fellow Jews in the world.
You make the profound sound petty.
Its not about apologizing, but remembering so you dont repeat the same mistake.
I don't know or remember slavery in the south. I read it in a book.
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