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Automotive supplier cracks down on absenteeism (Delphi wants access to medical records)
MLive.com ^ | May 11, 2005 | The Associated Press

Posted on 05/11/2005 4:59:40 AM PDT by wmichgrad

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To: Skooz

Oh, good. It's the COMPANY'S fault! What's your incentive to go to work? Mine's a paycheck.


21 posted on 05/11/2005 6:10:19 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Trust but Verify

So is mine.

But, you still have not made the case that a company should have access to it's employees PRIVATE MEDICAL RECORDS.

My wife cannot even see my medical records. What gives some boss the right to even have the temerity to ASK, much less demand?

My wife had an OB/GYN appointment last week. At the end of the office visit, she asked the nurse for a doctor's excuse for her absence from work.

That did the trick.


22 posted on 05/11/2005 6:13:22 AM PDT by Skooz (Jesus Christ Set Me Free of Drug Addiction in 1985. Thank You, Lord.)
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To: Trust but Verify
Would your chronic jock itch keep you from going to work? How about some Micatin?

That's my point! Jock itch would not prevent me from showing up for work, at least I hope not. But, if I did stay home to go to the doctor (for whatever) and HR requests my records, does someone HR need to have access to my personal jock itch issue? What if an employee perceives their illness as embarrassing or possibly puts their employment on the line? Some will forgo treatment fearing that work find out. BTW, jock itch was just an example. As a female, I have yet to experience that. : )

23 posted on 05/11/2005 6:15:22 AM PDT by Woodstock (<------- is a BIRD)
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To: Lazamataz
If you are sick, stay home. Just let's see some proof, is all.

Most people don't usually run to a doctors office to treat a head cold or a stomach upset. So would you rather have them puking and sneezing in the office, or running off to run up a medical tab? I am willing to bet that, unless you are dealing with hypochondria, 90% of the of the illnesses this covers are the stuff that is treated at home with over the counter medications. It would be kinda hard to get a validated medical report on that stuff...if not nearly impossible to even get a medical appointment. Would a half-empty bottle of Asprin satisfy you as adequate "proof"?
24 posted on 05/11/2005 6:16:11 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Skooz

Like I said before, we don't know that that approach hasn't been tried. Your wife can see your medical records; if you sign a waiver. Delphi can't see their employees medical records, unless they sign a waiver. See how that works?


25 posted on 05/11/2005 6:17:51 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Trust but Verify

Chinese handcuffs.


26 posted on 05/11/2005 6:17:52 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Trust but Verify
...you could be removed from further suspicions.

Guilty until proven innocent...welcome to the new America.
27 posted on 05/11/2005 6:18:10 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: ARCADIA

Some years ago, my grandfather worked for an auto manufacturer. Much of his job could best be described as the "drunk wrangler." Absenteeism was so high on Mondays that his job was to go out and roust enough employees out of bed so they could start the assembly line.

The problem isn't illness, it's laziness -- and union contracts.


28 posted on 05/11/2005 6:18:53 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: ARCADIA

Exactly. I have be on the verge of death before I go to the doctor. The last few bouts I have had with a bad case of influenza have been in the bed, throwing up, popping flu pills, and groaning a lot.

Maybe I should have made audio tapes of my groans and saved a sample of my vomit for my employer's scrutiny.


29 posted on 05/11/2005 6:20:59 AM PDT by Skooz (Jesus Christ Set Me Free of Drug Addiction in 1985. Thank You, Lord.)
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To: MediaMole
Absenteeism was so high on Mondays that his job was to go out and roust enough employees out of bed so they could start the assembly line.

German automakers actually have a saying along the lines of, "Never buy a Monday Car."

30 posted on 05/11/2005 6:21:53 AM PDT by Woodstock (<------- is a BIRD)
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To: Woodstock
If you have a medical condition that requires time off from work, isn't that something you would normally have to disclose to your benefits manager? I know that where I work if you are going to be off work for more than a couple of days, you have to state what the problem is and what you're doing about it. I have been on leave-of-absence twice and both times, whether I liked it or not, whether it was for treatment of an embarrassing condition or not, I have to tell them what it is and have a doctor's excuse.

Please tell me you do not advocate people being able to be absent from work and not having to say why, even if it is embarrassing.

31 posted on 05/11/2005 6:22:08 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Trust but Verify

Yep. IF I sign a waiver.

If any employer demands that an employee sign such a waiver, the only correct response is hilarious laughter.


32 posted on 05/11/2005 6:22:55 AM PDT by Skooz (Jesus Christ Set Me Free of Drug Addiction in 1985. Thank You, Lord.)
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To: ARCADIA
There is nothing like encouraging people to go to work so they can help the spread of influenza, the common cold, and other maladies their friends move, the local ball team win and their favorite bar prosper. Within a few month they will have even lower attendance have reigned in these sick leave abusers, while incurring higher medical costs increasing productivity and improving the bottom line. What a winning solution! Its time to stick a fork in pin a medal on this company. It's management is showing itself to between inept and pathetic be responsive to stockholders and intolerant of employee theft of sick time.
33 posted on 05/11/2005 6:23:11 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: ARCADIA

Sorry, but these workers brought this on themselves.


34 posted on 05/11/2005 6:25:00 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Trust but Verify
Please tell me you do not advocate people being able to be absent from work and not having to say why, even if it is embarrassing.

Where I work, a doctor's not is sufficient. In fact, HIPAA regulations restrict doctor's offices from stating why. The only time medical information is provided is for legal disability or FMLA. Our company has third party that handles those, specifically for employee confidentiality.

35 posted on 05/11/2005 6:25:59 AM PDT by Woodstock (<------- is a BIRD)
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To: RGSpincich

I don't believe it. Another person on a conservative board who believes in integrity and personal responsibility.


36 posted on 05/11/2005 6:26:25 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Trust but Verify
What's your incentive to go to work? Mine's a paycheck..

If your paycheck is the same as my paycheck, and you show up for work while I goof off, then your paycheck is no longer an incentive for perfect attendance.
37 posted on 05/11/2005 6:27:30 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Woodstock
That was doctor's note.
38 posted on 05/11/2005 6:27:40 AM PDT by Woodstock (<------- is a BIRD)
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To: Trust but Verify
Personal responsibility is one thing.

People demanding access to others' personal medical records is quite another.
39 posted on 05/11/2005 6:28:24 AM PDT by Skooz (Jesus Christ Set Me Free of Drug Addiction in 1985. Thank You, Lord.)
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To: Woodstock
I'm not saying the doctor's office has to tell them why you're not there, but that you do, and depending on the length of time off, a doctor's confirmation.

I person should have to tell the employer why they are not coming to work, not just say, "I'm sick," and show up a week later.

40 posted on 05/11/2005 6:29:25 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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