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Was Wisconsin Stolen? [Does A Bear Do His Business In The Woods?]
Powerline ^ | May 11, 2005 | Mr. Hinderaker

Posted on 05/11/2005 8:33:57 AM PDT by conservativecorner

We'll never know, because the records aren't good enough to tell us. But a joint federal-state investigation of last November's election in Milwaukee has found incontrovertible evidence of voter fraud. Fraud seems to have permeated the election in Milwaukee, where John Kerry got his margin of victory; he carried Wisconsin by around 11,000 votes.

The Milwaukee investigation has revealed that the number of ballots counted there exceeds, by 4,609, the number of people recorded as voting. There is no evident explanation for this other than ballot box stuffing. In addition, investigators found "more than 200 cases of felons voting illegally and more than 100 people who voted twice, used fake names or false addresses or voted in the name of a dead person."

And that's just the fraud that has been specifically identified. Approximately 70,000 voters registered in Milwaukee on election day, and they voted overwhelmingly for John Kerry. Altogether, Kerry received 71% of the 277,000 votes cast in Milwaukee, a margin of 116,000 votes. There is no way to be sure whether more than 11,000 votes--less than 10% of Kerry's Milwaukee margin--were fraudulent. But it is entirely possible that voter fraud swung Wisconsin into the Democrats' column.

As we've said before, it is only a matter of time until voter fraud determines the outcome of a Presidential election. (Indeed, this may well have happened in 1960.) It could have happened last fall; that it didn't was entirely a matter of luck.

Meanwhile, Wisconsin Republicans are trying to adopt a photo ID requirement for future elections. So far, their effort has been successfully blocked by the Democrats.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2006; 2006election; aliens; citizenvoice; driverlicenses; felonvote; illegals; nosameday; votefraud; voterfraud; wi; wisconsin
Demoncrats are crooks and theives!!
1 posted on 05/11/2005 8:33:57 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner
Now for the million-dollar question: Is this going to lead to any real prosecutions, or is it just going to be used as a poster child for national ID?
2 posted on 05/11/2005 8:36:48 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: conservativecorner

Vote fraud in Florida almost swung the 2000 election. Wonder why he didn't mention that one?


3 posted on 05/11/2005 8:37:11 AM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton.)
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To: conservativecorner

WI. MI. PA. WA. but the republicans got the votes they needed so they don't need us anymore.


4 posted on 05/11/2005 8:38:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Anyone who thinks we believe Hillary on any issue is truly a moron.)
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To: conservativecorner
As we've said before, it is only a matter of time until voter fraud determines the outcome of a Presidential election.

Expect it in 2006, and by 2008, everyone will be in on this little game.

5 posted on 05/11/2005 8:39:00 AM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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To: conservativecorner

Fellow Freepers, this is a problem that won't go away. If you are concerned about vote fraud you can 1) Organize a local group to fight it. 2) Sign up to help run the polls, e.g., in 2004 I became an Alternate Election Judge. I was the lone Republican in an all dim crew on the big day when W won. Boy, were they surprised when I showed up. 3) Sign up to be a Poll Watcher. That's what I did during Early Voting in 2004 as well as the 2000 election. 4) Start scrubbing the voter rolls for felons, dead people, multiple registrations, and phantoms. You'd be amazed at the number of phantom voters who simply don't exist yet vote absentee.


7 posted on 05/11/2005 8:43:19 AM PDT by darth
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To: conservativecorner

We're STILL fighting here in Washington, the State....here's a poll from a local msm rag...."seattlepi.nwsource.com"

What do you think gubernatorial candidate Dino Rossi should do at this point? (See related article.)
43.2%
Concede

54.9%
Keep fighting

1.9%
Not sure

Total Votes: 1154


8 posted on 05/11/2005 8:44:52 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: conservativecorner

We're STILL fighting here in Washington, the State....here's a poll from a local msm rag...."seattlepi.nwsource.com"

What do you think gubernatorial candidate Dino Rossi should do at this point? (See related article.)
43.2%
Concede

54.9%
Keep fighting

1.9%
Not sure

Total Votes: 1154


9 posted on 05/11/2005 8:45:01 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: conservativecorner
Call the FBI.
Wait; it took the Bureau 20 years to crack a mob hit case in Chicago.
10 posted on 05/11/2005 8:45:20 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: inquest

That's a good point...Republicans will tend to benefit more due to limiting of the voter fraud. Especially King County, Washington. What a sham.


11 posted on 05/11/2005 8:45:58 AM PDT by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: darth

Excellent advice. Thanks for posting that. Us, individual people, must fight the fraud! Thanks for being a great American :)

Have a great day!


12 posted on 05/11/2005 8:46:05 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: conservativecorner

They're also, in large amount, communists, traitors, and terrorist supporters and enablers.


13 posted on 05/11/2005 8:48:31 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: UB355

The only real reformers of government are conservatives these days. We have to hope that Scott Walker will defeat Jim Doyle in 2006. I think that he will for three reasons:

1. Taxes
2. Election reform
3. Guns


14 posted on 05/11/2005 8:49:07 AM PDT by SaintThomasMorePrayForUs
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To: goodnesswins

And you have one of the best sources in the U.S. for understanding how elections are stolen, SoundPolitics.com. Recommended reading for anyone interested in this issue, especially in states that probably did have elections stolen. Sharkansky is dogged and meticulous. He deserves a medal for the work he's done.


15 posted on 05/11/2005 8:49:22 AM PDT by cosine
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To: conservativecorner

Milwaukee was also an area where a 527 activist organization, that had actively campaigned against Bush, changed its "mission statment" a few weeks before the election and got a contract with the Milwaukee school district to manage a project using school kids on school time to "get out the vote" (sounded like a USSR style "young pioneers" project to me).

Wisconsin, I believe, is also where some people with elderly parents with Alzheimers found that their nursing home staff had sent in the parents' absentee ballots for them, claiming that the patients "had a right to vote"; ignoring of course who it was that actually decided what their vote should be.

The Dims have Marxist morals; whatever they do is right because their cause is right.


16 posted on 05/11/2005 8:49:23 AM PDT by Wuli (The democratic basis of the constitution is "we the people" not "we the court".)
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To: JesseJane

It already did in the Kenedy/Nixon election. I believe it was 1960. That was the famous dead voter win in Chicago.


17 posted on 05/11/2005 8:49:44 AM PDT by UB355
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To: UB355

Well, the dead will rise again.


18 posted on 05/11/2005 8:50:55 AM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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To: conservativecorner
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1400800/posts

Another thread. They cheated big time..... look for the old Dem./lying/socialist media to ignore it.... so that MAYBE only anout 10% of American voters ever learn of this!

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The old Dem./liberal/socialist media is America's most ruthless, relentless, and destructive enemy.

19 posted on 05/11/2005 8:53:40 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Cops to Jenn: Can we stop looking for the blue van now and talk about the flatware deficit?)
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To: JesseJane
.....everyone will be in on this little game......

The game must be played in the Blue Zone cities firmly under Rat control.

Conservatives can't play the game, they must eliminate the game.

The national ID is absolutely essential to conservative dominance.
20 posted on 05/11/2005 8:53:55 AM PDT by bert (Rename Times Square......... Rudy Square.)
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To: conservativecorner
MILWAUKEE - The sons of a first-term congresswoman and Milwaukee's former acting mayor were among five Democratic activists charged Monday with slashing the tires of vans rented by Republicans to drive voters and monitors to the polls on Election Day.
21 posted on 05/11/2005 8:54:41 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: conservativecorner
The Milwaukee investigation has revealed that the number of ballots counted there exceeds, by 4,609, the number of people recorded as voting. There is no evident explanation for this other than ballot box stuffing ------

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DUH!!!!

22 posted on 05/11/2005 8:55:00 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Cops to Jenn: Can we stop looking for the blue van now and talk about the flatware deficit?)
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To: bert
The national ID is absolutely essential to conservative dominance.

As if the Rats wouldn't love that idea, too?

23 posted on 05/11/2005 8:56:10 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: conservativecorner
As we've said before, it is only a matter of time until voter fraud determines the outcome of a Presidential election.

I think we're already there. I live in Ventura County, CA near L.A. I read last week in the local paper (Democrat Party Newsletter) there will be a big push from the Legislature to make this county, along with 2 others, a "vote by mail only" country. These will be test cases and of course it will be only a matter of time until the whole state goes to mail balloting.

It will be justified by lower costs and "wider voter participation." What won't be mentioned is the horrendous potential for voter fraud! The "wider voter participation" -- up to an estimated 30%! -- is where the fraud will occur among illegal aliens, felons, double or triple votes, phony registrations, and on and on. The United States of America is on the verge of becoming just another Banana Republic

24 posted on 05/11/2005 9:02:00 AM PDT by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: bert

The game must be played everywhere. I have no doubt the OTHER TEAM will be bringing in their players everywhere.

Though I'd love conservative *principles* to dominate, true conservatives need to lead, with a clear message, and I believe people would follow. The RNC has been hijacked by PC, and the DNC makes no bones about the former FRINGE being in control. Both parties have left their patriotic, law abiding base, and don't seem to give a rats-*ss.

So, people of all political stripes are going to do what it takes to get their country back first. And that is to ensure that the government is run by the American people, FOR the American citizen.

A clear leader for American Principles sovereingty, security, and strong economic futures for well educated children CAN win the hearts and minds of a disgusted, disheartened and threatened American voice. The people will rise up. If the Federal Government will not abide by the constitution, then we need change all the players on the board.


25 posted on 05/11/2005 9:29:47 AM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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To: Rabid Dog

Ping to comment 24.


26 posted on 05/11/2005 9:30:41 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: conservativecorner

Punctured tires of GOP campaign workers and same day registration in Wis. also need to be addressed.


27 posted on 05/11/2005 9:38:46 AM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: conservativecorner

Now I know why the Democrats are so angry. They cheated and still lost. They think it's just not fair. They're the ones who feel cheated. They're "UNBELIEVEABLE".


28 posted on 05/11/2005 10:14:24 AM PDT by batmast
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To: Bernard Marx
OREGON: Court Won't Rule on Vote-By-Mail

On News/Activism 04/15/2002 10:36:42 AM PDT · 1+ view

Yahoo ^ | 4/15/02

The Supreme Court refused Monday to weigh in on the legality of voting by mail. The court passed up a chance to review Oregon's one-of-a-kind program, which has eliminated most polling places. The system gets more people involved in elections, Oregon leaders contend. Voters have multiple days, not just one, to make their choices. Some residents challenged the process, arguing that it violates federal election laws that spell out how states handle federal elections. The law says that congressional and presidential elections must take place on the same day in November. A ruling could have affected about 20 states that...


CA: Mail-in ballots may replace polls in county [seven counties in Calif.]<
29 posted on 05/11/2005 10:19:03 AM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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To: inquest
Now for the million-dollar question: Is this going to lead to any real prosecutions, or is it just going to be used as a poster child for national ID?

The fact that the US Attorney (Steve "Hang'em" Biskupic) is the lead investigator is encouraging. He's bagged 3 Milwaukee alderpersons and a state Senator for corruption. The bad news is, at least according to the "see no evil outside of Republicans" Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, he saw no widespread pattern.

30 posted on 05/11/2005 10:29:48 AM PDT by steveegg (Bring back Hoosier, Firestone; SOMEBODY to get Badyear off their duffs and make a good tire.)
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To: conservativecorner; All
Crosslinked:

-The Vote Fraud Archives--

31 posted on 05/11/2005 11:07:29 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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