Posted on 05/12/2005 5:23:06 AM PDT by rdb3
How much difference is there, really, between the far-Left, the far-Right, and overt white supremacists? How do the public stances of Michael Moore, Pat Buchanan, and David Duke compare? Proponents of both extreme views now think and sound so much alike, they sound like soulmates. Somehow these fringe characters have moved so far around the edges that they have arrived at the same territory, spouting identical positions in copycat rhetoric on such issues as Iraq, the broader War on Terror, and the Jewish state of Israel.
Their own words are the best evidence. Take their view of America's war against terrorists and Islamic fascism. The two camps, if they can even be distinguished as such, are rabidly antiwar in precisely the same, delusional fashion:
There were no WMD's. There was no connection to 9/11. This war was a malevolent hoax. - Llewellyn H. (Lew) Rockwell Jr. (libertarian head of LewRockwell.com)
There is no terrorist threat in this country. This is a lie. This is the biggest lie we've been told. - Michael Moore (leftist)
Iraq had not attacked us, did not threaten us, did not want war with us, could not defeat us. - Pat Buchanan (paleoconservative)
There is no credible evidence that Iraq poses any real threat to the United States. Dozens of other nations have weapons of mass destruction. - David Duke
But the extremists pacifist anti-Americanism just scratches the surface. Dig deeper and youll find that, for these fringe members, the current war only provides more proof of the cunning and manipulative nature of the Jewish race:
It's all part of the same ball of wax, right? The oil companies, Israel, Halliburton. - Michael Moore
Who would benefit from a war of civilizations between the West and Islam? Answer: one nation, one leader, one party. Israel, Sharon, Likud. - Pat Buchanan
So, for whose benefit does America wage this war? The answer is Israel, Israel, Israel! - David Duke
The Israeli puppeteer travels to Washington and meets with the puppet in the White House. He then goes down Pennsylvania Avenue and meets with the puppets in Congress ... It is time for the United States Government to stand up and think for itself. - Ralph Nader
The Founding Fathers of the United States deeply feared that a foreign government [like Israel] might gain this level of control over a branch of the United States government, and their fears have been vindicated. - Juan Cole (leftist University of Michigan history professor)
The Jews are particularly adept at seizing or insinuating themselves into strategic positions in our society where they wield power far beyond the extent of their numbers....We White people of America have done nothing so far which would frustrate the Jews expectations or their ambitions of becoming the worlds slavemasters. - Neo-Nazi author and publisher Ernst Zundel (Canadian neo-Nazi)
That the fringe adherents, both Left and Right, are most fundamentally anti-Jewish can be summed up in a favorite and pregnant Anti word: neocons:
Neo-conservatism...has unleashed a series of wars against foreign countries that posed no threat whatever to the U.S. - Lew Rockwell Jr.
President Bush...was to exploit the attack of 9/11 to launch a series of wars on Arab regimes, none of which had attacked us. - Pat Buchanan (paleoconservative)
The warmongers anxiously want this war NOT to appear to be a result of the Israeli Fifth Column trying to strike down Israel's enemies one by one. - David Duke (white supremacist/former neo-Nazi)
We still tiptoe around putting a name to...the neoconservatives agenda on U.S.-Israeli relations...It's time, however, that we say the words out loud and deal with what they really signify. Dual loyalties. - Kathleen and Bill Christison (left-wing columnists for Counterpunch)
Neocons say we attack them because they are Jewish. We do not. We attack them because their warmongering threatens our country, even as it finds a reliable echo in Ariel Sharon. - Pat Buchanan
Jewish roots and currents...make the neocon movement nothing more than a Jewish supremacist apparatus. - David Duke
These gadflies, though, won't concede that they are first and foremost anti-Semites. As they would have it, they're just honest critics of malevolent Jews:
They charge us with anti-Semitism i.e., a hatred of Jews for their faith, heritage, or ancestry. False. The truth is, those hurling these charges harbor a passionate attachment to a nation not our own that causes them to subordinate the interests of their own country and to act on an assumption that, somehow, what's good for Israel is good for America. - Pat Buchanan
Certainly, there are a number of stories sloshing around the news now...The purveyor of anthrax may have been a former government scientist, Jewish...with the intent to blame the anthrax on Muslim terrorists. Rocketing around the web and spilling into the press are many stories about Israeli spies in America at the time of 9/11.... - Alexander Cockburn (columnist and editor of far-left magazine Counterpunch)
But if you care to lay out the clear and copious evidence of ... Israel's obvious foreknowledge of the attacks of 9/11, then you are automatically labeled anti-Semitic, probably the most hateful and onerous title that can be conferred on a human being. - David Duke (referring to a theory popularized by Antiwar.coms Dennis Justin Raimondo)
Anti-Semitism is no longer a problem, fortunately. It's raised, but it's raised because privileged people want to make sure they have total control, not just 98 percent control. That's why anti-Semitism is becoming an issue. Not because of the threat of anti-Semitism; they want to make sure there's no critical look at the policies the U.S. (and they themselves) support in the Middle East. - Noam Chomsky
I have no plan whatever for challenging the Jews for what's done in their name. At the same time, I understand the...unnaturally bloated Jewish influence in American cultural affairs and political life (particularly relating to the Middle East) .... - Bradley Smith (Holocaust revisionist)
Revisionists are not at all irrational hateful people but scholars who offer legitimate criticisms of the Holocaust story. - David Duke
Indeed, it is the charge of anti-Semitism itself that is toxic. - Pat Buchanan
Their point is that if Jews really are the enemies of the state, one cannot be charged with anti-Semitism merely for pointing that truth out. This convenient argument expunges the record of anti-Semitism these forces have so justly earned. After all, one cant be accused of holding to a venomous worldview that doesn't exist. This frees them to pursue their toxic, anti-Jewish agendas.
Take the above-mentioned Juan Cole, who accuses Zionists of holding romantic notions of eternal peoples and mystical connections to a land:
Nineteenth century romantic nationalism of the Zionist sort posits eternal peoples through history, who have a blood relationship (i.e. are a race) and who have a mystical relationship with some particular territory...But there are no eternal nations through history...Since there are no eternal nations based in blood, they cannot have a mystical connection to the land. People get moved around.
He all but screams at Jews, You were dispossessed. Get over it! Yet in the same breath, Cole argues that Zionism is evil because it deprives Palestinian peoples of a land to which they're apparently mystically connected:
Personally, I think that the master narrative of Zionist historiography is dominant in the American academy...Usually the narrative blames the Palestinians for their having been kicked off their own land, then blames them again for not going quietly.
Such incoherent arguments show their thinking is warped with an animus against a certain group of people. This allows Cole and all the above to conclude, if the Jews have a home, they must have displaced others and are therefore oppressors; and if Jews are displaced, well, thats life.
Little wonder, then, that the far-Left is now ready to embrace the Buchananite Right:
Over the past few years I have been gaining much respect for one Patrick J. Buchanan...[America] has been high-jacked by a neocon cabal that does not have their best interests, or this country's best interests, at heart. - Web column by Craig Colbert, A liberal's second look at Pat Buchanan.
And thus do hateful minds meet, far round the fringes of the political spectrum.
I'd be willing to offer a few appropriate suggestions.
LOL! Have you looked at the thread, "Was World Was II Worth It"?
Buchanan fans crawling all over it like a nest of cockroaches.
Wow! What a thought provoking presentation of variations in thought patterns in a common theme!!! Incredible!!!
Just common sense and truth telling.
An apt (and entirely appropriate) simile, under the circumstances. :)
"As I said I could be wrong. :-) I just have a knee-jerk reaction to conspiracies."
It really isn't conspiracies. What we have seen from the Opecker Thugs since Iran seized our embassy are well financed organizations here and around the world setting up the unwary for their Jihads.
Now that we are waking up to what Soros and his fellow super rich limo libs have been doing to us for close to two decades, we again see well run organizations working via the phoney non profits to weaken America and our real allies.
They'll do it anyway.
I can't believe you aren't cognizant of what a "rare and endangered" commodity those have become in our society!!!
Bttt! Good find!
The Patsies showed they were in bed with the radical left back in the 2000 election, when Buchanan allied himself to Lenora Fulani.
There is absolutely no excuse for it.
Regards, Ivan
David Duke.
Patty tries to use illegal immigration to get real conservatives to take him seriously. The only difference between David Deuschebag and Patricia Buchananut is that Davie was openly a Nazi.
I had totally forgotten what he looked like.
Lucky you. :)
True, and this is an emotional issue that I wish we Republicans get a handle on or it can be a wedge that will sting.
The only difference between David Deuschebag and Patricia Buchananut is that Davie was openly a Nazi.
Ouch!
TERRORISM: THE RITUAL OF THE DEVIL (This Muslim better watch his step!)
Pat Buchanan and company say they can't be anti-Semitic for simply pointing out the "truth" that the Jews are evil and plotting to rule the world. What an excuse, Pat. That changes everything.
And Juan Cole wins the Hypocrite of the Year Award for condemning in Jews what he, his fellow Leftists, and their "palaeoconservative" allies defend in all other nations (ie, a mystical connection to a land). Zak's demolishing of his two-facedness is a masterpiece!
To Buchanan, Raimondo, Cockburn, Chomsky, Nader, Cole, and all their fellow travellers:
Drop dead.
Drop dead.
I can't argue with you there, for if you are Jewish, that would be their wish for you.
TERRORISM: THE RITUAL OF THE DEVIL (This Muslim better watch his step!)
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