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A Tribe Apart: Jews of the American South
The Jewish Press ^ | Jason Maoz

Posted on 05/12/2005 7:02:10 AM PDT by alan alda

They are not the Jews of bagels and lox brunches with the Sunday New York Times. They do not necessarily get the humor of a Woody Allen movie and are as likely to salivate over a dinner of fried chicken, collard greens, sweet potato pie and iced tea as they are to crave a repast of matzoh-ball soup, pastrami on rye, side knish and glass of Dr. Brown`s.

They are the Jews of the American South, fundamentally different from their Northern cousins, and not simply because, historically, they assimilated more quickly and intermarried more frequently.

If the South, as Wilber J. Cash puts it in his classic The Mind of the South, is “part of America and yet set apart most definitely from America, a nation within a nation,” then Southern Jews likewise are part of American Jewry but distinct, a people within a people.

Southern Jews have had a disproportionate effect on the history of their region. “Though Jews never comprised more than 1 percent of the South`s population,” writes Louis Schmier in the Encyclopedia of Southern Culture, “few phases of the Southern experience and few places in the South escaped their influence.”

And Southern Jews displayed an almost visceral connection to the land never quite equaled by their Northern counterparts. “In the North,” noted the Southern-born writer Eli Evans (whose landmark portrait of Southern Jewry, The Provincials, has just been reissued by University of North Carolina Press), “the seamstresses and tailors worked to get their children up and out of the ghettos and to Long Island. In the South the fathers wanted to build businesses to keep their sons at home.”

The key to understanding the Jews of the South is to grasp the sense of “otherness” that has always been at the center of their lives.

“Being Jewish in the South,” according to Evans, “is like being Gentile in New York. “What I mean by that is that Jews in the South live as a minority in a majority culture. The schools close on Jewish holidays in New York; they don`t in the South. The generation of my friends in New York played stickball in the streets of the East Side while I was picking blackberries in the backyard. They were upwardly mobile; we wanted roots.”

In the Beginning

How is the South best defined? The answer has changed significantly over the years, and in fact still depends largely on whom one asks.

The U.S. Census Bureau classifies as Southern a wide swatch of states that includes West Virginia, Maryland and Delaware. Others prefer a cultural to a strictly geographical definition, such as the one suggested by John and Dale Reed in 1001 Things Everyone Should Know About the South – “a solid core from the Carolinas to Louisiana; some shakiness in Florida, Arkansas, Kentucky and Virginia; and a sphere of influence along the border from Delaware to Missouri. Texas and Oklahoma are marginal...”

The first Jewish settlements of note in the South were those of Savannah, Georgia and Charleston, South Carolina in the closing decades of the 17th century. The numbers were minuscule – barely a handful of families – but in general Jewish immigration to the U.S. wa virtually non-existent: even a hundred years later, at the time of the Revolutionary War, the country was home to no more than 2,500 Jews, most of them residing in the Northeast.

Slowly, though, a Jewish presence was making itself felt in the lower colonies well in advance of the mass immigrations from Europe that commenced in the late 1800`s. In 1783, for example, Isaiah Isaacs and Jacob Cohen, a pair of Jewish merchants from Richmond, Virginia, commissioned the legendary explorer Daniel Boone to charter thousands of acres of land in Kentucky, thereby helping to open the vast, previously unclaimed territories of the West.

On the back of the receipt Boone signed in exchange for his cash payment, Isaacs noted and dated the translation in Yiddish – a historical tidbit left unmentioned in the various movie and television accounts of Boone`s exploits.

By 1800 there were more Jews in Charleston than in any other U.S. city, and South Carolina`s Jewish population exceeded 1,000 – making the state home to better than one in five American Jews. It was in Charleston that Germany`s Reform movement would establish its first American foothold, a harbinger of what by century`s end would be the near total dominance of Reform Judaism in the South.

Southern Jews were for the most part left alone by their non-Jewish neighbors, though life was far from easy for those who wished to maintain a ritualistically meaningful lifestyle. The flavor of the times is conveyed in a letter written in 1791 by a woman named Rebecca Samuels, whose husband owned a silversmith shop in Petersburg, Virginia, to her parents in Germany:

"We have a shochet who goes to market and buys treif food. On Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur, the people worship here without one sefer [Torah]. And not one wore the tallit, except my Sammy's godfather....We do not know what the Sabbath and the Holidays are. On the Sabbath, all the Jewish shops are open....

"As for the Gentiles, we have nothing to complain about. You cannot know what a wonderful country this is for the common man. People can live here peacefully."

Civil War and Aftermath

The Jews who lived in the South in the 18th and 19th centuries were almost without exception peddlers and merchants – by the 1890`s their importance to the region`s economic well-being was such that a Georgia newspaper noted, with clumsy gratitude, “Where there are no Jews there is no money” – but in the decades immediately following the Civil War they played an increasingly prominent role in the South`s political and social life as well.

The loyalties of American Jews during the Civil War were divided along geographic lines, with the contribution of Southern Jews to the Confederate war effort deemed crucial enough for General Robert E. Lee to turn down requests for High Holiday furloughs.

As Lee put it in a letter to a Virgina rabbi, “Neither you nor any other member of the Jewish congregation would wish to jeopardize a cause you have so much at heart by the withdrawal, even for a season, of a portion of its defenders.”

The dominant Jewish personality of the Confederate South was Judah P. Benjamin, described by one writer as the “most important American-Jewish diplomat before Henry Kissinger, the most eminent lawyer before Brandeis, the leading figure in martial affairs before Hyman Rickover, the greatest American-Jewish orator, and the most influential Jew ever to take a seat in the United States Senate.”

The son of an English Jewish father and a Portuguese Jewish mother, Benjamin became a senator in 1852 and a year later was offered a seat on the U.S. Supreme Court, an appointment he declined in favor of continuing his career as a legislator and one of the South`s most vociferous voices on behalf of slavery. Benjamin would fill several key posts in the Confederate government – attrney general, secretary of war and, finally, secretary of state – before escaping to England when the South lost the war.

Southern Jews were neither more nor less likely to own slaves than their Christian neighbors, though on an individual basis Jews tended to treat blacks with an empathy unusual for Southern whites of the era, and they would continue to do so long after the abolition of slavery.

In a perverse way, the persecution of blacks in the South served to deflect many potential problems from the region`s Jews. Bertram Korn, a prominent scholar of Southern Jewry, argued that blacks “acted as an escape valve in Southern society. The Jews gained in status and security from the very presence of this large mass of defenseless victims who were compelled to absorb all of the prejudices which might otherwise have been expressed more frequently in anti-Jewish sentiment.”

Approximately 40,000 Jews, most of them German immigrants, made their way to the South in the fifty years between the end of the Civil War and the beginning of World War I. The entrepreneurial and business skills of this group made the words “Jew” and “shopkeeper” synonymous in the Southern mind, and their names lived on long after they themselves were gone: the Rich brothers in Georgia, the Thalhimers in Virginia, the Godchaux family in Louisiana, the Levine brothers in North Carolina, Neiman and Marcus in Texas.

And then there were men like Oscar Straus and Adolph Ochs, who would go on to bigger and better things elsewhere only after their forebears had first carved a niche for themselves in the South. Straus, whose father was a peddler in Georgia, eventually became the owner of R.H. Macy`s in New York; Ochs, whose mother was a charter member of Chattanooga`s United Daughters of the Confederacy, bought The New York Times and turned it into a journalistic institution.

Further highlighting the accomplishments of the region`s Jews: no fewer than two dozen Southern towns are named for Jewish peddlers or landowners, among them Marks, Mississippi; Kaplan, Louisiana; and historic Manassas, Virginia.

At Home in Dixie

Of the various changes that marked the day-to-day lives of 20th century Southern Jews, two stand out, one internal, the other external.

Internally, the staunchly anti-Zionist mindset of the community – “For the majority of Southern Jews and their rabbis,” wrote Malcolm Stern, “America was their Zion, and they wanted no other” – was reversed over time, with the 1967 Six-Day War in particular triggering an avalanche of emotion and pride.

Externally, there was an appreciable drop in anti-Jewish sentiment among non-Jewish Southerners, and along with that a reduction in the number of anti-Semitic incidents.

Not that violence against Jews was ever a pressing problem in the South; even taking into account the infamous lynching of Leo Frank in Georgia in 1915 and a flurry of synagogue bombings at the height of the Civil Rights movement, attacks on Southern Jews and Jewish property were notable for their infrequency. Even the Ku Klux Klan, with rare exceptions, chose to harass Jews verbally rather than physically.

The phenomenon of hardened white racists harboring a relatively benign attitude when it came to Jews was typified by Eugene “Bull” Connor, the Birmingham, Alabama commissioner of public safety whose dogs and fire hoses became internationally recognized symbols of Southern racism in the 1960`s. At a law enforcement conference organized after the first wave of the aforementioned synagogue bombings, a perplexed Connor drawled, “Nigras, maybe, but Jews – why?”

Just as Israel`s military victories helped do away with Southern Jewry`s tradition of anti-Zionism, so too did the Jewish state`s success on the battlefield dispel some myths about Jews long held by the general public.

“The State of Israel,” wrote Eli Evans, “profoundly changed the image of the Jew in the South.The underdog region, celebrated for the fierceness of the [Confederate army] against the overwhelming odds of Yankee cannons and superior numbers, deeply admired the Israeli courage when outmanned and, above all, respected a winner.”

A legislator from a Southern state relished telling the story of the time, shortly after the Six-Day War, an admitted Ku Klux Klan member visited his office and noticed a newspaper photo of Moshe Dayan lying on the desk. The Klansman pointed to the picture and said, “I admire that man more than anyone else in the world today except for George Wallace.”

Fundamentalist, Bible-based religion has played a major role in the South`s embrace of Israel. When Flonnie Maddox, mother of the rabidly segregationist Georgia governor Lester Maddox, visited Israel in the late 1960`s, a hawkish Israeli boasted to her, “One day we`ll have Jordan.” To which the devout Mrs. Maddox replied, “You`ll have every inch of it. God said you would.”

With increased acceptance came the inevitable downside of intermarriage and assimilation, and in those departments Southern Jews had about a 50-year jump on Jews in the rest of the country. The result was an epidemic of synagogue closings throughout the South over the second half of the 20th century, particularly in towns whose Jewish populations were too small to sustain anything approaching a communal infrastructure.

And yet, thanks in no small measure to a resurgence of Orthodoxy in areas long thought inhospitable, vibrant Jewish communities can be found in a number of large Southern cities. The situation looks even brighter if one goes by the Census Bureau`s definition of Dixie and adds the Jews of Texas and Florida to the mix.

The South`s Jewish population, Evans recently noted, “has tripled in size since I first started writing about it in 1970 – from 382,000 to an estimated 1,200,000 in 2004. Atlanta is now one of the fastest growing Jewish communities in America, growing from 16,000 and three congregations when I first wrote about in 1969 to well over 100,000 and thirty-seven congregations today. Austin, Texas, has grown from 500 Jews when I was first writing about it to 15,000 to 18,000 today....The Research Triangle of the Durham-Chapel Hill-Raleigh area has quadrupled in the last twenty years and Charlotte is well on its way to becoming the Atlanta of the twenty-first century. The Jacksonville-Tampa-Orlando area is also growing dramatically.”

The late Harry Golden, editor of the Carolina Israelite and self-styled bard of Southern Jewry, liked to say that “there were Jews in the South before there was a South.”

Nearly a quarter-century after Golden`s death one can add that there are more Jews than ever in the South no matter how you define the South.

-- Jason Maoz is senior editor of The Jewish Press. He can be contacted at jmaoz@jewishpress.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: Kentucky; US: Mississippi; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina; US: Tennessee; US: Texas; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: dixie; history; jewishconfederates; jews; politics; south; southernjews
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1 posted on 05/12/2005 7:02:11 AM PDT by alan alda
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To: All

Shalom yall!


2 posted on 05/12/2005 7:25:30 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: alan alda

These folks were Sephardic Jews...wanderin' since 1492!
What he says, shalom y'all


3 posted on 05/12/2005 7:31:27 AM PDT by airforceF4
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To: alan alda; stainlessbanner; sheltonmac

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4 posted on 05/12/2005 7:33:21 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A Jovial Cad; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; adam_az; af_vet_rr; agrace; ahayes; ...
Jews in the Civil War

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5 posted on 05/12/2005 7:35:29 AM PDT by Alouette (The truth is not hard to kill, but a lie told well is immortal. -- Mark Twain)
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To: alan alda

thanks - very interesting


6 posted on 05/12/2005 7:36:12 AM PDT by Coast2Capitol
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To: alan alda

I found it quite surprising when I found small Jewish populations scattered around South Carolina.

Not just the university town and state capital Columbia, or the resort towns of Myrtle Beach and Hilton Head, or the historic Charleston, but seemingly odd places like Greenville-Spartanburg, Sumter and Florence.


7 posted on 05/12/2005 7:40:05 AM PDT by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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To: alan alda

Thanks for posting this. Good read.

I've always heard liberal whiney babies reference the supposed anti-semitism crap about the South, blah, blah.

My father was born in the heart of the "Heart of Dixie" and the culture that is supposed to entail. I've also heard him sing the praises of a jewish man he once worked for. This fellow was 'salt of the earth' and 'genius' rolled into one. In his life he'd made three separate fortunes. The first was taken by the Nazis in the 30's and his second was stolen by Mao and Co. Of this man, my (white, southern) father said: "That little Jew was the single, best man I ever did know."


8 posted on 05/12/2005 7:41:46 AM PDT by myheroesareDeadandRegistered (Ann Coulter/ Mark Levin tag team in '08)
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If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
9 posted on 05/12/2005 7:42:06 AM PDT by SJackson (The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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To: TR Jeffersonian

Judah Benjamin ping


10 posted on 05/12/2005 8:04:59 AM PDT by kalee
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To: alan alda; Alouette
A great article, dispelling a lot of groundless nonsense that sees the American South as the equivalent of (lehavdil) Nazi Germany.

Mr. Maoz is a good man whom I admire, but it took him a little while to get to the matter of Biblical Fundamentalism. This should have been stressed more, except that the article is about Jews in the South, and the South was not always the Bible Belt (originally, New England was). It is ironic that Orthodox Judaism is probably the most Fundamentalist religion in the entire family of "Biblical religions," yet this remains largely unknown. It is the only religion that insists that the Torah was written by G-d prior to Creation and was the "logos" through which the world was created, and that this Torah was dictated to Moses letter for letter. Similarly (aside from some modernity-influenced "orthoprax" philosophies) everything in the Torah is accepted as literal history, though the Torah does not necessarily narrate the events chronologically. There are times I want to pull the few remaining hairs out of my head at my people's own "Babylonian captivity" to chr*stianity when Judaism/Noachism would be so much more appropriate. Oh well. There is a small yet growing Southern Noachide movement (most contemporary Noachides are Bible-Belt Fundamentalists).

"Reform Judaism" might have suited the pre-Fundamentalist South, but Orthodox Judaism (especially as practiced by traditional 'Ashkenazim) is much more suited to the contemporary, Bible-Belt South with its "Roundhead" seriousness about religion ("that Teutonic Puritanism" as one rightwing Catholic critic called it).

My Southern ancestors fought against the Confederacy and I am not a Confederate. But the day may come when the post-Cavalier, Fundamentalist South may wish to indeed become an independent state. When that comes it should reject the "new testament" (how can anything "new" be conservative) and embrace the ancient, eternal Torah. I also suggest that adopting Hebrew as a new national language (as the Fundamentalist Puritans once thought of doing) would accomplish the most in creating a distinctive national identity apart from an English-speaking secular USA.

Teach your children Hebrew.

11 posted on 05/12/2005 8:11:08 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and altar--in Jerusalem!!!)
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To: MacDorcha; JohnPigg; smug; TexConfederate1861; peacebaby; DixieOklahoma; kalee; dljordan; ...

diXie Ping


12 posted on 05/12/2005 8:18:32 AM PDT by stainlessbanner (If you don't know your history, you can't know where you are going)
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To: alan alda
During the Great Confederate War southern Jews enlisted at a many fold rate higher than northern Jews.

While Grant,and Sherman banned Jews from their areas of operations, Lee and Davis granted every consideration and positions of trust to Jews.

I once read an article in a reprint from the "Confederate Veteran," To paraphrase as remembered ; "Rally on our Jewish major, enemy musketry and shot flying thick, there he sits his horse unperturbed, cigar clenched in teeth."

The only Hebrew war veterans cemetery outside Israel is located in Richmond, VA. and it is Confederate.

http://www.jewish-history.com/shockoe.htm

Jews in the Civil war, note the positions given to Soother Jews.

http://www.jewish-history.com/civilwar.htm

13 posted on 05/12/2005 8:31:42 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: stainlessbanner

Interesting read...very interesting the Jews were less prosecuted because the blacks suffered the blow.

I never understood anti-Semitism (I was born in the 50s). My grandmother did a great deal of business with the Schombergs. My best friend was Jewish. She and her dad ate Christmas dinner at our house. When the sanctuary in our Methodist church was being renovated, we held church in the synagogue down the street.

i didn't know there was anti-semitism until I was aware that a certain Jewish family wasn't invited to a debutante ball at the local country club which didn't accept Jews. It was a new, foreign, inexplanable world to me then.


14 posted on 05/12/2005 8:32:04 AM PDT by peacebaby (I am a marvelous housekeeper. Every time I leave a man, I keep his house. Zsa Zsa Gabor)
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To: Salem; SJackson; IAF ThunderPilot

Southern American Jews - very interesting Ping!


15 posted on 05/12/2005 8:34:10 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

fingers out ran brain, again. Soother SRA Southern.


16 posted on 05/12/2005 8:35:21 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: airforceF4

Not all were Sephardic, my Southern Jewish roots were from the St. Petersburg, Russia region, immigrate in the 1840's to Savannah. Survived the Civil War, Reconstruction, collapse in cotton prices, and finally lost most everything in the Panic of 1893, and moved to NYC.


17 posted on 05/12/2005 9:06:04 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: PetroniusMaximus
NEVER FORGET that SOUTHRON JEWS were singled-out for "ESPECIAL TREATMENT" by the invading UNION army.

one of the things that the damnyankees were REALLY good at, was ROBBING/LOOTING/BURNING synagogues & Jewish homes!

one of the first (if not THE first!)of those "mysterious fires" was the large & historic synagogue in yankee-occupied Alexandria,VA.

but of course, the "gubmint pubic screwls" don't/won't tell you that. NOT PC, don't you know?

free dixie,sw

18 posted on 05/12/2005 9:27:55 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: alan alda
I got a good view of Jewish Southern religious sociology as a conservative, pre-Vatican II Roman Catholic at Tulane University in the 1970's. Tulane has long had a strong Jewish contingent, and while times were a-changing, there were strong distinctions and some tensions between Southern and Northern Jews.

In my freshman year, I made some Jewish Northerner friends convulse with laughter when I admitted that I did not know what a bagel was until I came to Tulane -- and they were stunned into disbelief when a Jewish Southerner with us acknowledged the same thing. Jews from the North were distinctly, adamantly ethnic Jews and tended to be very liberal, while Jews from the South did not particularly see themselves as distinct from other Southerners except in faith, and many of them were instinctively conservative.

On the whole, the worst of the flaming leftists were Jews from the North and Presbyterians from the suburbs of the New South. My chosen circle of friends at Tulane was mostly conservative or apolitical and included a number of Jews from both North and South. With strong support from New Orleans' Jewish businessmen and professional, Tulane was unique among American universities in never having had a quota limiting the number of Jews admitted.

Several of Tulane (and Newcomb's) Jewish trustees, fund-raisers, and donors helped to ease them into abandoning the vestiges of Jim Crow early and without a serious fight or much publicity. This was an example of the practical and humane approach to divisive issues that Jewish Southerners are known for, often serving well both their communities and their faith. The Jews of the South have much to their credit.
19 posted on 05/12/2005 9:48:20 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham
i, too, went to grad school at Tulane in '76-'78.

NICE school, grand CITY, PURTY girls!

free dixie,sw

20 posted on 05/12/2005 9:51:53 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

There is a wonderful book called "Shalom, Y'All". It is a collection of photos from Southern Jewish communities.


21 posted on 05/12/2005 9:52:01 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (www.JewsforJudaism.org)
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To: alan alda; All
I just finished reading Eli Evans' biography of Judah Benjamin. What a remarkable individual! If he hadn't been on the Confederate side, I'm sure they'd have made a movie of his life.

More apropos, Evans also wrote a great book about southern Jews called "The Provincials."

22 posted on 05/12/2005 9:55:22 AM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: Salem; SJackson; IAF ThunderPilot; American in Israel; MississippyMuddy; Bombardier
"The only Hebrew war veterans cemetery outside Israel is located in Richmond, VA. and it is Confederate." http://www.jewish-history.com/shockoe.htm"

As a Virginian, I take some pride in the above information. And yes, the synagogue in Alexandria, VA, a few miles from where I live in Arlington, was burned down when the Yankees occupied that town. There is a plaque in Old Town Alexandria noting the original site of the synagogue.
23 posted on 05/12/2005 9:59:50 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: stand watie

Ping!


24 posted on 05/12/2005 10:01:06 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: alan alda
The movie, Driving Miss Daisy, is not just about an old Southern Lady, but an Old Jewish Southern Lady. Dan Arkroyd plays the son, a Jewish business man. Very good portayal of Southern Jews. Kind to folks all 'round, including blacks.
25 posted on 05/12/2005 10:01:33 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis



There is also a Jewish cemetary that is preserved in the Shockoe Bottom section of Richmond, Va. It dates to 1790, and is well preserved, with brick walls, manicured grass, and a wrought iron fence.

Down the street from it is a synogogue that has been closed, and converted to apartments. Thats a crying shame.


26 posted on 05/12/2005 10:22:10 AM PDT by judicial meanz
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To: Alouette

Thanks for the link! I am devouring it!

I love this:

Rabbi Hayim Tzvi Sneersohn, a great-grandson of Rabbi Shneur Zalman of Liadi, the "Alter Rebbe", visited the United States in 1869 on a mission for the Jewish community of Palestine. He was received at the White House by newly inaugurated President Ulysses Grant.

The Washington National Intelligencer described the reception of Rabbi Sneersohn, wearing traditional Yerushalmi costume, by the President of the United States.

Rabbi Sneersohn said, "Mr. President: Permit me to give my thanks to the Almighty, whose mercy brought me here to behold the face of the chosen by the millions of this great nation... I come to your Excellency from the East, to entreat you in the name of G-d, who created all men equal, to listen to the prayer of your humble servant, standing before you to advocate the cause of his oppressed brethren in the Holy Land. The Israelites in Palestine possess no political or civil rights whatever, and oftentimes deprived of protection by the representatives of the civilized nations which the Christians enjoy, are exposed to violence and arbitrary rule. The only shelter the Israelites occasionally find is in the courts of the different European consulates, where one of their co-religionists is employed either as interpreter or deputy consul, who convey their grievances to the proper channel. This free Republic alone, whose banner covers the oppressed, whose foundation is based on equality, toleration, and liberty of conscience, has no Israelites employed near the consul at Jerusalem. I do pray, therefore, your Excellency, to turn your attention to the deplorable condition of my brethren in the Orient, that the principles of this government may be truly embodied in its representatives abroad; and I do further pray that your Excellency may show me that mark of favor which will enable my brethren in the Holy Land in the hour of need to seek refuge under the Stars and Stripes, that this free country and its exalted chief should be blessed on the sacred spot of our common ancestors."


27 posted on 05/12/2005 10:53:23 AM PDT by tuckrdout (Is prayer your spare tire, or your steering wheel?)
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To: Alas Babylon!

A Jewish businessman who married a Christian and celebrated Christian holidays!


28 posted on 05/12/2005 10:56:35 AM PDT by tuckrdout (Is prayer your spare tire, or your steering wheel?)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

I used to have a t-shirt that said exactly that back when I was a kid.


29 posted on 05/12/2005 11:28:16 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: alan alda

The Goldring/Woldenberg Institute of Southern Jewish Life
http://www.msje.org/

Museum of the Southern Jewish Experience
http://www.msje.org/museum.html


30 posted on 05/12/2005 11:43:11 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: judicial meanz; Convert from ECUSA
That.s the only Jewish military cemetary in existance outside Israel.

Interesting site with pics and a list of burials.



31 posted on 05/12/2005 11:57:15 AM PDT by SJackson (The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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To: stand watie; stainlessbanner
Here's a trivia question to stump Yankees with:

The only Jewish military cemetery in the world outside of Israel is located here

32 posted on 05/12/2005 12:06:46 PM PDT by Alouette (The truth is not hard to kill, but a lie told well is immortal. -- Mark Twain)
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To: SJackson

GMTA!!


33 posted on 05/12/2005 12:07:17 PM PDT by Alouette (The truth is not hard to kill, but a lie told well is immortal. -- Mark Twain)
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To: Alouette; SJackson
Great links thank you both. An honorable sacrifice - they are not forgotton.

Another interesting note is the mysterious history of the Melungeons of East Tennessee. Some claim they are decendants from one of the lost tribes of Israel.

34 posted on 05/12/2005 12:16:13 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: SJackson

I couldnt find a picture, but here is a link that describes the cemetary I was talking about:

http://www.cvco.org/tourism/histrich/jews.html

Heres a comprehensive list of Virginia Jewish cemetaries and where they are located:

http://www.cvco.org/tourism/histrich/jews.html


35 posted on 05/12/2005 12:18:15 PM PDT by judicial meanz
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To: alan alda
They are not the Jews of bagels and lox brunches with the Sunday New York Times. They do not necessarily get the humor of a Woody Allen movie all of which any pagan could do and has nothing to do with being Jewish.
36 posted on 05/12/2005 12:19:59 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: alan alda

ping


37 posted on 05/12/2005 12:35:07 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: SJackson; IAF ThunderPilot

Thanks for posting the pictures and the links, SJ! Ping of interest to IAF ThunderPilot.


38 posted on 05/12/2005 12:44:04 PM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: Bella_Bru

"There is a wonderful book called "Shalom, Y'All". It is a collection of photos from Southern Jewish communities."

It was also made into a short documentary film in 2003 that often times shows on the Independent Film Channel and Sundance. It's very interesting and quite funny. Among many other folks, Kinky Friedman (currently running for the Governor of Texas) is interviewed and is, as usual, hilarious. When he was a full time musician, his rock band was called "the Texas Jew Boys".


39 posted on 05/12/2005 1:21:36 PM PDT by ILuvW
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To: Convert from ECUSA

!!!!!!!!!!!!


40 posted on 05/12/2005 2:27:34 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: judicial meanz
certainly IS!

free dixie,sw

41 posted on 05/12/2005 2:41:34 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: Alouette
YEP!

also the largest collection of BLACK CONFEDERATE soldiers buried ANYWHERE is in Atlanta, underneath Graves Hall on the grounds of MOREHOUSE COLLEGE.

those "barefooted,hungry,lads in tattered gray uniforms" died BRAVELY for dixie LIBERTY, during the Battle of Atlanta.

free dixie,sw

42 posted on 05/12/2005 2:44:44 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: japaneseghost
you will find this thread INTERESTING!

free dixie,sw

43 posted on 05/12/2005 2:46:39 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stainlessbanner
Damn! This was the topic of last night's discussion at our SCV Camp. Thomas Mandes was the speaker... he wrote and article on this very topic for the Washington Times a few years ago... Check it out!!

Here are some other interesting links:

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/ezekiel.htm

http://www.jewish-history.com/moses_ezekiel.html
44 posted on 05/12/2005 3:03:40 PM PDT by CurlyBill (Democratic Party -- Wimps without ideas whose only issue is to oppose Republicans)
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To: alan alda
There is a story I've read that in 1830s Savannah, there was a Jewish doctor name Philip Minis and State legislator named John(?) Stark, who got into a real nasty argument. The argument escalated over time, until there was talk of a duel.

One day, Stark and Minis ran into each other on the street. Stark started to reach in to a pocket. Minis, afraid that Stark was going to pull a gun, pulled the gun he had an fired, killing Stark.

Minis was put on trial, but only for manslaughter. Even that, he was found not guilty of.

I can't think of any other part of the world in the 1830s, where a Jew could have killed a Christian in self-defense and not been dragged of and executed.
45 posted on 05/12/2005 3:20:04 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: alan alda

Dixie Bump!


46 posted on 05/12/2005 3:30:27 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: alan alda

ping for later


47 posted on 05/12/2005 4:59:30 PM PDT by Voir Dire
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To: familyop

Ping!


48 posted on 05/13/2005 3:36:42 AM PDT by Alia
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To: alan alda
Thank you for posting this! WOW More great information I'm learning about the South (which I never learned while in the West). Saw a PBS-type show the other night on the Appalachians. Some of the data blew my (west-coast mind). Stuff that is never included in the usual tirades against the south by liberals. For example, Cherokees emulating the Europeans, ALSO bought and owned slaves to work their plantations. And... Appalachian boys who went but refused to fight for the Union, were hunted down and murdered in front of their families, which is why many to this day refuse to vote "democrat". And that such "northern aggressive action" more than likely lay the groundwork for the Hatfield-McCoy events.

The freespeech, the richness and fullness of history in the South continues to set me free.

49 posted on 05/13/2005 3:41:16 AM PDT by Alia
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To: alan alda
One of my college roommates at N.C. State was a Jew from Brooklyn. Aaron taught me a lot about Judiasm and American Jewish culture (language, holidays, dietary customs, etc.) including how to cuss in Yiddish. I do believe Aaron got a real kick out of hearing Yiddish spoken with a Southern accent.

Anyway, at times I amuse my co-workers by breaking into Yiddish. Since I'm not allowed to use profanities in the workplace (dagnab "consideration of others"), I get by with an occasional "kish mine tuches" and "tsu tillas gescheften". (That last one is a Heinz-Kerry favorite.)

After my supervisor called me a "schmuck", however, I had to take him aside and explain what he REALLY called me. I let him know I wasn't offended (I've been called a lot worse, trust me), but saying that to the wrong person could result in getting his butt kicked.

Gey gezunterheyt, y'all.

:-)

50 posted on 05/13/2005 5:02:41 AM PDT by Jonah Hex (Go. Hunt. Kill Skuls.)
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