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The Islamization of French Schools - A disturbing report is leaked - (is Europe finished already?)
WEEKLY STANDARD.COM ^ | MAY 9, 2005 | OLIVIER GUITTA

Posted on 05/12/2005 12:57:48 PM PDT by CHARLITE

AN OFFICIAL REPORT DEALING WITH religious expression in French schools has become a must read for anyone interested in the Islamization of France. Written under the auspices of the top national education official, Jean-Pierre Obin, the report was not initially released by the Ministry of Education. But it was leaked on the Internet in March and now can be found in its entirety at www.proche-orient.info and other websites.

The 37-page report is the product of a study carried out between October 2003 and May 2004 by a team of 10 inspectors, including Obin. In addition to examining the recent literature on religion and schools in France, they visited 61 academic and vocational high schools in 24 départements, chosen not as a cross-section of public schools, but rather as schools typical of those where religious expression has become a problem because of the high concentration of ethnic and religious minorities. Many are located in ethnically segregated neighborhoods now often referred to, the report says, "by analogy with the United States, as 'ghettos.'"

In each school, inspectors interviewed the management team, staff, and teachers, as well as lay people from the community, including parents, social workers, and elected officials. In addition, regional education officials were asked to submit accounts of their experiences in primary schools.

Amid much diversity--some of the schools were rural, some urban; some had fairly homogeneous student populations, others immigrants from many different countries--the inspectors report two consistent findings: a marked increase in religious expression, especially Muslim expression, in schools; and denial on the part of officials at all levels--from the classroom, to the principal's office, to the regional administration--that this phenomenon is occurring.

The researchers began by studying the neighborhoods surrounding the schools. Mostly, these were depressed areas abandoned by anyone with a secure income. The report describes the flight of "French" residents and "European" shops--sometimes after they have been the targets of violence--in tandem with the arrival of immigrants and the collapse of real estate values.

Scores of informants told the Obin team that these neighborhoods were undergoing a "rapid and recent swing" toward Islamization, thanks to the growing influence of religious activists. These young men, intense and highly intellectual in their piety, are sometimes former residents of the neighborhood who have been to prison, where they were converted to Islam. More often, however, they are educated men with degrees from universities in France, North Africa, or the Middle East. They have come to be known as "bearded ones" (distinctive beards are a marker of Muslim purists and extremists--think of bin Laden) or "big brothers" (a name evocative of the worldwide jihadist movement's Muslim Brotherhood), and they offer young people a proud identity--Muslim--in place of the dismal identity of unassimilated immigrant.

The biggest social change entailed by this Islamization, Obin reports, is a deterioration in the position of females. Teenage girls are forbidden to play sports and are constantly watched by an informal religious police made up of young men, sometimes their own younger brothers. Makeup, skirts, and form-fitting dresses are forbidden; dark, loose trousers are the strongly recommended attire. To go to the blackboard in front of a class, some Muslim girls put on long coats. Often, they are forced to wear the headscarf, or hijab, and forbidden to frequent coed movie theaters, community centers, and gyms, or even to go out at all on weekends. Lots of young women were afraid to tell the Obin team what punishments are in store for them if they disobey. Not only female students but also female teachers, Muslim and non-Muslim alike, are frequently subjected to sexist remarks by male teenagers.

In primary schools, the report cites instances of first grade boys' refusing to participate in coed activities and Muslim children's refusing to sing, dance, or draw a face. In one school, restrooms were segregated: some for Muslim students and some for "French." Some lunchrooms were segregated, by section or table. Some students required halal meat; at one school, the principal provided only halal meat for everyone.

With Muslim proselytizing on the rise, the report states that students are under pressure to observe Ramadan, the annual month during which Muslims fast during the day. In some high schools, it is simply impossible for Muslim kids not to join in, whether they like it or not. Obin cites one student who tried to commit suicide because of intimidation and threats from other kids over this issue. Obin also emphasizes that many conversions to Islam are taking place under duress.

Inevitably, the report records rampant "Judeophobia," to use the term in vogue in France. Among even the youngest students, the term "Jew" has become the all-purpose insult. Obin deplores the fact that principals and teachers do not strenuously object to this, treating it simply as part of the youth culture. Even more serious is the increase in assaults on Jews or those presumed to be Jewish. Usually the assailants are Muslim students. Sometimes the victims are, too: One Turkish high-school girl was relentlessly harassed and bullied at school because her country is an ally of Israel. The section of the report on anti-Semitism winds up with this sad conclusion: In France today, Jewish kids are not welcome at every school. Many are forced to switch schools or even conceal their identity to escape anti-Semitism.

According to the report, Muslim students perceive a large gap between the French and themselves. Even though most of the Muslim kids are actually French citizens, they see themselves as Muslims first, and more and more of them hail Osama bin Laden as their hero. In their eyes, he represents a victorious Islam triumphing over the West.

FINALLY, THE REPORT DISCUSSES a host of difficulties teachers encounter in dealing with specific subjects in the classroom. Most Muslim kids refuse to participate in sports or swimming, the girls out of modesty, the boys because they do not want to swim in "girls' water" or "non-Muslim water." When it comes to literature, French philosophers such as Voltaire and Rousseau are very often boycotted because of their supposed Islamophobia. Molière, the father of French satiric comedy, is among the writers most often boycotted.

As for history, Muslim students object to its Judeo-Christian bias and blatant falsehood. They loudly protest the Crusades, and commonly deny the Holocaust. Under the circumstances, many teachers censor their own material, often skipping entire topics, like the history of Israel or of Christianity. The report cites one teacher who keeps a Koran on his desk for reference whenever a thorny issue arises. It cites Muslim students who refuse to use the plus sign in mathematics because it looks like a cross. Field trips, especially to churches, cathedrals, and monasteries, are boycotted.

Contrary to conventional wisdom, these pathologies are now present across France. Muslim "ghettos" are found not only in the suburbs of major cities but in towns and villages as well. Obin describes them as islands of counterculture, sealed off and opposed to modern democratic society.

Summing up, Obin explains his disturbing findings as the result primarily of indoctrination orchestrated over years by international Muslim organizations. From an early age, students are taught what to think, what to believe, and to regard their school teachers as liars. The goal of the radical groups seeking to segregate Muslim communities and denouncing integration as oppression, Obin writes, is to take the Muslim residents of France out of the French nation and make them think of themselves as part of the international Muslim community.

In a particularly interesting observation, Obin notes that it is the schools that have reached accommodations with the extremists that are most plagued by violence against girls, Jews, and teachers. Schools that refuse to tolerate the intolerable have coped much better with the problems described in the report. As a result, Obin calls for a policy of no compromise with Islamist demands.

Still unclear is how French educators can be expected to hang tough while their government refuses to own up to the problem--as demonstrated by its failure to make public the Obin report. With the Muslim share of the French population already over 10 percent and growing, the schools are only the tip of the iceberg.

Olivier Guitta is a freelance writer specializing in the Middle East and Europe.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
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My son-in-law, who is Dutch, told me several years ago, "Holland is finished." I fear that the rest of at least "old Europe" is also finished, and I don't see many saviors of western civilization coming forward to stem the tide of aggressive, voracious, militant Islam.
1 posted on 05/12/2005 12:57:49 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

Duh, this is Eurabia we're talking about.


2 posted on 05/12/2005 1:01:02 PM PDT by Stonedog (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet it's difficult to pronounce.)
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To: SJackson

ping


3 posted on 05/12/2005 1:01:58 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: CHARLITE

Charles Martel is rolling in his grave.


4 posted on 05/12/2005 1:02:45 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: CHARLITE

Europe is missing religion and Islam is missing enlightenment, is it possible that the combination will improve both?


5 posted on 05/12/2005 1:03:15 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: CHARLITE

You mean banning head scarves didn't save the French schools? Imagine that.


7 posted on 05/12/2005 1:06:54 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: CHARLITE

A society that drinks in all cultures and ideas in equal doses swallows its own poison.


8 posted on 05/12/2005 1:07:52 PM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: CHARLITE

France led the way, as usual, in the fall of Europe and its colonization.... http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=14050


9 posted on 05/12/2005 1:07:52 PM PDT by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: CHARLITE

So very sad. The Islamofascists are conquering the Western world without even firing a shot.

I suppose that Obin, the investigator, is now the object of a fatwah.


10 posted on 05/12/2005 1:08:09 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Chgogal

ping...


11 posted on 05/12/2005 1:08:27 PM PDT by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: CHARLITE

"Still unclear is how French educators can be expected to hang tough while their government refuses to own up to the problem..."

Impotence is not a policy


12 posted on 05/12/2005 1:10:03 PM PDT by SMARTY (Lucius Septimus Severus to his sons: "Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else")
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To: CHARLITE
I remember in the '80's, reading about protesters at UC Berkeley shouting "Hey hey, ho ho, Western Civ has got to go..." I remember wondering "what will be the long-term implications of this?" I guess I have my answer; I wonder if the malcontents who were doing the shouting had aggressive militant Islam in mind. Probably they were clueless.

I have to hand it to the Islamos, though. The way they are exploiting the non-judgemental, non-normative, diversity-worshipping zeitgeist of the west is elegant. In the same way as the design of a python's jaw is elegant.

(steely)

13 posted on 05/12/2005 1:11:20 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: CHARLITE

You'd think they'd empty the museums throughout Europe and ship all the artwork here and to Japan.

The first thing the fascists will do is destroy it. The great works of Botticelli, Vermeer, Picasso, all the religiously themed works of Lotto, Tintoretto, Michaelangelo, all in danger of maniacal, fanatical ignorance.


14 posted on 05/12/2005 1:12:40 PM PDT by OpusatFR (I live in a swamp and reuse, recycle, refurbish, grow my own, ride a bike and vote GOP)
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To: CHARLITE

bump


15 posted on 05/12/2005 1:18:28 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: CHARLITE

If anything, too many Europeans seem almost apologetic about and embarassed by their predominantly Judeo-Christian European roots. And far to willing to bend over backwards to 'accomodate' (read - acquiese to) the demands (that's right, not requests, but demands!) of the steady stream of non-Christian, non-European immigrants who hate everything about their new homeland and wish it to change. And the French seem happy about that. I've said it before, just how happy will the French be when their new countrymen 'demand' the dismantling of vineyards, removal of pork products, the covering of beautiful art and the changes in fashion to cover women's bodies? And the 'conversion' of the Cathedrals. The French need to wake up and smell the coffee and stop jailing those who dare comment on the negative changes, like Brigitte Bardot, if they have any appreciation for their culture and lifestyle, before it is snatched away from them.


16 posted on 05/12/2005 1:20:29 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: Bigg Red
*tick* *tick* *tick*!!!

Their blinding self-righteousness enforced by violence makes these people a danger to civilization.

We live in "the best and the worst of times."

17 posted on 05/12/2005 1:20:41 PM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: CHARLITE

I can't wait for the day they beg us to free them from the koranimals.


18 posted on 05/12/2005 1:21:25 PM PDT by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: CHARLITE

Sacre bleu!


19 posted on 05/12/2005 1:22:17 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful Or Fatal If Swallowed)
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To: CHARLITE

It will end like in Kosovo - the murder and expulsion of all non muslims - not only are the Kosovo churches destroyed, their foundations are dug up and the corpses in the cemeteries are dug up and destroyed. In short, nothing non muslim must be left - not even a memory...


20 posted on 05/12/2005 1:23:21 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Bigg Red

"So very sad. The Islamofascists are conquering the Western world without even firing a shot"

Only the weak countries, funny how the same ones get overrun again and again.


21 posted on 05/12/2005 1:23:29 PM PDT by conservativewasp (Support John Kerry......... Ho Chi Minh would. Damn! Now I need a new tagline.)
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To: freedomson

"I can't wait for the day they beg us to free them from the koranimals"

And we tell em to get stuffed.


22 posted on 05/12/2005 1:24:58 PM PDT by conservativewasp (Support John Kerry......... Ho Chi Minh would. Damn! Now I need a new tagline.)
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To: SMARTY
Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else

This is the best advice.

23 posted on 05/12/2005 1:25:22 PM PDT by Podkayne
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
"Charles Martel is rolling in his grave."

Wonder if the French even admit to his past deeds now.

24 posted on 05/12/2005 1:25:39 PM PDT by Sam's Army (Fight them)
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To: 2banana

"It will end like in Kosovo - the murder and expulsion of all non muslims"

No chance, the French will simply negotiate a peaceful solution.


25 posted on 05/12/2005 1:26:24 PM PDT by conservativewasp (Support John Kerry......... Ho Chi Minh would. Damn! Now I need a new tagline.)
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To: conservativewasp

Only the weak countries...

**
So, are you saying that we'll need to rescue the Frogs again?


26 posted on 05/12/2005 1:27:36 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: ThirstyMan

...these people a danger to civilization.

&&
How right you are! I shudder to think where it will end.


27 posted on 05/12/2005 1:28:40 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Bigg Red

"So very sad. The Islamofascists are conquering the Western world without even firing a shot. "

Coming to a town near you.

I've been told, here, that a town near Detroit, Hamtrack? Now sounds the muslim call to prayer 5 times a day.

When people get complacent, and passive, an aggressive foe will win out.


28 posted on 05/12/2005 1:28:41 PM PDT by brownsfan (Post No Bills)
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To: mikeus_maximus

"A society that drinks in all cultures and ideas in equal doses swallows its own poison."

That's awesome, is it yours, or are you quoting someone?


29 posted on 05/12/2005 1:29:53 PM PDT by brownsfan (Post No Bills)
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To: CHARLITE

Bump


30 posted on 05/12/2005 1:31:23 PM PDT by TotusTuus (Christos Voskrese!)
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To: Yo-Yo
You mean banning head scarves didn't save the French schools? Imagine that.

It might have, if they had been banned when they first appeared.

Just like a crucifix is banned in every muslim country in the middle east; Try wearing one in Saudi Arabia.

31 posted on 05/12/2005 1:31:30 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: brownsfan

I recall that story. I think that the area is actually a section of Detroit and that the wishes of those citizens who objected to the permit that the Muslims were given were ignored by local officials.


32 posted on 05/12/2005 1:33:03 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Europe is missing religion and Islam is missing enlightenment, is it possible that the combination will improve both?

Absolutely!

Old Europe will cease to be and the islamoscum will....um....will...O.K., there's no upside to having the old world over run by mohammadans.

Thats would be as bad as letting a serial rapist take care of your bed ridden old aunt Mabel. It may take her off your hands, but you're just subjecting her to a slow death by torture.
33 posted on 05/12/2005 1:33:13 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (This tagline brought to you by Islam. Islam, only the best of the 12th century for you and yours.)
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To: Bigg Red

"So, are you saying that we'll need to rescue the Frogs again?"

Hell no, the Islamists get to keep France, unless Germany develops a spine, then they finally get it keep France.


34 posted on 05/12/2005 1:33:50 PM PDT by conservativewasp (Support John Kerry......... Ho Chi Minh would. Damn! Now I need a new tagline.)
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To: freedomson

"I can't wait for the day they beg us to free them from the koranimals."

That's just it. It's the beauty of it, (from the islamonazi point of view). The French government will be swallowed from within. The official French government won't ask for help, because it will be populated with islamonazis. It will become Franco-stan.


35 posted on 05/12/2005 1:34:01 PM PDT by brownsfan (Post No Bills)
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To: brownsfan

mine.


36 posted on 05/12/2005 1:38:36 PM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
"Europe is missing religion and Islam is missing enlightenment, is it possible that the combination will improve both?"

Nope, statement equals an IRRELIGIOUS DARKNESS

37 posted on 05/12/2005 1:39:18 PM PDT by litehaus
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To: CHARLITE

It's not just there. At a local high school here in Houston a special room has been set aside for Muslim prayers. Can you imagine a high school that would set aside a chapel for Christians? The furor would never end. Welcome to the Islamization of America.


38 posted on 05/12/2005 1:42:21 PM PDT by Juan Medén
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To: brownsfan
Islam over France
39 posted on 05/12/2005 1:45:33 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: conservativewasp

the only "peaceful solution" is the complete conversion of anyone that wants to stay in France w/out fear of harrassment. Islam is about eradicating western civilization. Period. There is no negotiating. Guess France will have to learn that firsthand. Again.


40 posted on 05/12/2005 1:45:37 PM PDT by Rushgrrl (~brought to you from the illegal-rich state of California~)
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To: Juan Medén

I would be suing that school system so fast their heads would spin. Separation of church & state, after all and unless they have a room for EVERY denomination, they shouldn't have one for ONE of them.


41 posted on 05/12/2005 1:48:40 PM PDT by Rushgrrl (~brought to you from the illegal-rich state of California~)
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To: Bigg Red

...these people a danger to civilization.

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How right you are! I shudder to think where it will end.


I'm at the point where I believe that many people - including a large percentage of Americans - will refuse to see the truth until a city is nuked. And, even then, many will keep their heads in the sand. I shudder for the next generations.


42 posted on 05/12/2005 1:50:54 PM PDT by MonaMars
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To: CHARLITE

BTTT and bookmarked.


43 posted on 05/12/2005 1:52:29 PM PDT by baseballmom
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To: CHARLITE
In a particularly interesting observation, Obin notes that it is the schools that have reached accommodations with the extremists that are most plagued by violence against girls, Jews, and teachers.

Something about lack of excrement and a ficticious English Detective come to mind.

44 posted on 05/12/2005 1:53:13 PM PDT by tnlibertarian ("In my opinion, they have no rights, except a safe return to their homeland. - "Robert Vazquez")
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To: CHARLITE
I do believe that when push comes to shove the French will reach down and grab their balls and fight back with a vengeance that could make Kosovo look like a spit ball fight. I could be wrong but I hope I'm not. It's one thing to be over run by Nazi Germany and quite another to be ruled by foreign Islomfacist.
45 posted on 05/12/2005 1:53:25 PM PDT by BBell
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Europe is missing religion and Islam is missing enlightenment, is it possible that the combination will improve both?

There is not a win-win solution. In the old days, it was Islam or the sword. Europe doesn't have the will to fight back.

46 posted on 05/12/2005 1:55:28 PM PDT by kabar
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To: CHARLITE

It is happening now in the US only right now it is the influx of illegal immigrants we need to worry about first!

For now, we should not allow any more "mosques" or islamic centers built in the USofA until every "mooselimb" country allows Christian schools and churches be built in their nations!


47 posted on 05/12/2005 1:56:44 PM PDT by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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To: CHARLITE

"...chosen not as a cross-section of public schools, but rather as schools typical of those where religious expression has become a problem because of the high concentration of ethnic and religious minorities. Many are located in ethnically segregated neighborhoods now often referred to, the report says, "by analogy with the United States, as 'ghettos.'"

Interesting...so the schools where the studies were done were in areas where there are are mostly muslims. I wonder what the schools are like in areas that are mainly French born.


48 posted on 05/12/2005 1:59:31 PM PDT by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: OpusatFR
The first thing the fascists will do is destroy it. The great works of Botticelli, Vermeer, Picasso, all the religiously themed works of Lotto, Tintoretto, Michaelangelo, all in danger of maniacal, fanatical ignorance.

It is against the laws of Islam to potray all human likenesses of divinity. The laws of Islam are laid out in the religion's holy book, the Koran. Like most religious books, its teachings have been interpreted in different ways. The very strict Taliban believes that Islamic law forbids the existence of pictures, photos or statues that show the human figure. The Taliban believes these idols represent other religions and rituals that do not follow Islamic tradition.

49 posted on 05/12/2005 2:00:40 PM PDT by kabar
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50 posted on 05/12/2005 2:08:39 PM PDT by StoneGiant
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